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Post by chief on May 12, 2021 14:11:16 GMT
If we move to Bury that is the end of Salford RLFC, striking similarities to Swinton. For our ever dwindling fan base this would be the final nail in the coffin. Distressing stuff Unfortunately, I agree. |
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Post by Carnster on May 12, 2021 14:23:42 GMT
Clubs that have had to move around constantly have always done poorly to grow its fan base. Hell, do you remember how divisive the AJ Bell was when we first moved? A move to Bury wouldn't be the end of the world for the club, but it could be the end of its association with anything Salford in all but name.
Sale have been effective parasites to their hosts wherever they go. If anyone is surprised by these turn of events they haven't been paying attention to the past. It was always going to end badly.
As long as the club exists I'll support them, wherever that may be, but I do think moving farther away again from its origins geographically could spell trouble for our dwindling fan base. It appears our options are running out, and the club and its supporters are going to face some tough decisions.
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Post by kilop on May 12, 2021 14:46:31 GMT
I'd hardly say we're smashing it for crowds where we are tbh.
Bit of a canundrum for the club.
If it means the survival then yes, if not we would lose a big part of our identity.
Best outcome is footy moves in with us and sale jog on to the new ground they were supposedly building
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Post by salfordredforever on May 14, 2021 8:36:34 GMT
Unfortunately...I believe its a done deal....we are being kicked out of A J Bell. Only option really is Moor Lane....If its Gigg Lane then I`m afraid the nail will be firmly placed in the coffin
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Post by Carnster on May 14, 2021 8:51:33 GMT
Unfortunately...I believe its a done deal....we are being kicked out of A J Bell. Only option really is Moor Lane....If its Gigg Lane then I`m afraid the nail will be firmly placed in the coffin Isn't Moor lane too small for SL by their criteria? Gigg lane is ideal for us with the exception that it isn't in Salford. I think some difficult decisions lie ahead for the club and its fans. |
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Post by bonitared on May 14, 2021 8:51:55 GMT
Moor Lane would be unacceptable to Super League so that won’t be an option
The eternal optimist in me expects that ,if a deal is done,there’ll be a sweetener in it for us so that it’s politically acceptable to the council.
I’d be very surprised if the final outcome was our eviction from AJB without an acceptable solution
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Post by dixon13 on May 14, 2021 9:04:47 GMT
I don't know any more than anyone else,but I did speak to a council member on Thursday last and was told that any decision about the future of the stadium had to go to a full council meeting as of now that as not happened. People are going on about Sale and Salford City,it is my view that Salford City will not go in with Sale as junior tenants no way will that happen.
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Post by ayresrock on May 14, 2021 13:12:12 GMT
I wonder why Sale have never got in to bed with Man City and moved to Eastlands? You would have thought that made more sense in many ways for developing inner city links and growing the fan base and with the RFU backing to grow the participation.
I don't think for Salford it would be a good move given the lack of development opportunities we have (no slant on the foundation, I just know Sale with no doubt the backing of the RFU throw a lot more money and staff at this area).
This is one thing that grates on me with the Koukash era. He had the money to invest in the long term and build the foundation to be the biggest and best in the game with such a large untapped resource on our doorstep but there wasn't the foresight to build for the future, it was a win now at all costs and it's such a missed opportunity.
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Post by giasf on May 14, 2021 14:33:06 GMT
Has anyone seen anything tangible in the past few weeks to suggest this is still a possibility? I see lots of noise on forums and social media but nothing credible to suggest there is any momentum here - e.g. public statements, newspaper reports.
As an aside on Gigg Lane. No idea where we'd get the funds to buy it, and even if we did it's an old stadium that has been left largely derelict for several years now (I gather a very loyal groundsman has been going in off his own back and doing what he can, but still). Can't see where we'd get the funds to buy it and can't see where we'd find the funds to maintain it. I have not been one to be particularly doom and gloom about the prospects of the club over recent years but leaving Salford is the one concrete step that I think would effectively see the club off. Hard to see how we wouldn't end up as another Swinton/Oldham/Rochdale/Widnes type club.
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Post by Astleyred on May 17, 2021 14:20:56 GMT
Unfortunately...I believe its a done deal....we are being kicked out of A J Bell. Only option really is Moor Lane....If its Gigg Lane then I`m afraid the nail will be firmly placed in the coffin Isn't Moor lane too small for SL by their criteria? Gigg lane is ideal for us with the exception that it isn't in Salford. I think some difficult decisions lie ahead for the club and its fans. The criteria for replacing Toronto was average 2k attendance, 5k minimum capacity stadia, but not sure if these were laxed for the short notice of getting a replacement in. Peninsula is 5,100 but doesn't have much infrastructure, so not sure it meets "all criteria". Then again didn't Toronto play on a fenced off school field at one point. |
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Post by prestwichred on May 18, 2021 9:23:57 GMT
Isn't Moor lane too small for SL by their criteria? Gigg lane is ideal for us with the exception that it isn't in Salford. I think some difficult decisions lie ahead for the club and its fans. The criteria for replacing Toronto was average 2k attendance, 5k minimum capacity stadia, but not sure if these were laxed for the short notice of getting a replacement in. Peninsula is 5,100 but doesn't have much infrastructure, so not sure it meets "all criteria". Then again didn't Toronto play on a fenced off school field at one point. London’s ground was also basically a council pitch. The RFL make up the rules as they go along. If it was Bradford wanting to move to a 5k stadium I bet it would be allowed |
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Post by Astleyred on May 18, 2021 14:52:24 GMT
4 Mill for Gigg Lane never in a month of Sundays is it going to happen, it'll prob need a mill to get it back to match day safety standards.
Someone mentioned the Agecroft stadium yesterday, I know the two clubs haven't a pot to piss in, but what about a Salford / Swinton / council (once they've offloaded the AJBell) joint venture?
Pie in the sky, I am a dreamer.....
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Post by bonitared on May 18, 2021 15:14:56 GMT
Pie in the sky, I am a dreamer..... Yes,but only because the source of funds would be the council and they already own a stadium 🤔🤔 |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 15:31:40 GMT
Pie in the sky, I am a dreamer..... Yes,but only because the source of funds would be the council and they already own a stadium 🤔🤔 As was said after they have sold the AJB. |
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Post by bonitared on May 18, 2021 16:04:47 GMT
Pedant.You bloody disagreeing with me yet again 🤭.
My point,which I thought was self evident,was that the Council received a load of flack for funding the AJB in the first place,ok I know it wasn’t called that back then,and selling it would be a political decision to deflect criticism from having Salford ratepayers subsidise a rugby team.
Ergo,they’re hardly likely to fund another one.
Astleyred was correct when he said ‘pie in the sky’.
The face saving compromise,if they do sell,will be a covenant for the City’s rugby league club,but that will have a limited lifespan of,say,5 years which will get the council out of a hole of its own making.
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