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Post by SalfordSlim on Nov 11, 2023 9:55:02 GMT
Some of our fans on social media are morons blaming the board again. The facts are as follows: 11,500 people sign a petition many on here lobby our MPs Rebecca Long-Bailey and Barbara Keeley. Salford Council decides Sales/FC's plus Gerrards alleged bids are ****, so no stadium sale. Last Christmas the council announce they are buying the ground. 12 months later council incompetence lands us in a tight spot. I've just messaged Barbara Keeley this is public sector procrastination at its worst, I'd urge other to flag this to their MPs too. What makes this more of a joke is that our Mayor Paul Dennett and Andy Burnham have publicly backed the club. Nice one Maurice, I'll send one across in a bit when I've had a coffee and I'm a bit more "with it".😁 |
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Post by worsleyreddevil on Nov 11, 2023 11:49:24 GMT
Some of our fans on social media are morons blaming the board again. The facts are as follows: 11,500 people sign a petition many on here lobby our MPs Rebecca Long-Bailey and Barbara Keeley. Salford Council decides Sales/FC's plus Gerrards alleged bids are ****, so no stadium sale. Last Christmas the council announce they are buying the ground. 12 months later council incompetence lands us in a tight spot. I've just messaged Barbara Keeley this is public sector procrastination at its worst, I'd urge other to flag this to their MPs too. What makes this more of a joke is that our Mayor Paul Dennett and Andy Burnham have publicly backed the club. Nice one Maurice, I'll send one across in a bit when I've had a coffee and I'm a bit more "with it".😁 Positivity MTR and Salford Slim, those that do can, those that don't just offer blame. Paul King and the Board are playing a bit of poker with those who procrastinate at Salford Council, its the only way to force an outcome as the status quo cannot continue. |
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Post by russ on Nov 11, 2023 12:35:29 GMT
There are not two camps here even though we're all on antisocialM.
As I said the club are right to push on this because it's dragging on and becoming destructive, to say the least.
Their wording was wrong to some extent because the journos pathetically latch on to the obvious and overly dramatic.
Beyond this though it begs the question, would any player wish to sign for a club that looks to be on its way out?
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Post by JJR on Nov 11, 2023 13:29:28 GMT
It’ll work out…I don’t really understand the Statement, the normal aspect is to just have a temporary one year agreement during which everything can be finalised.
I would suspect its poor negotiation with all wanting their needs fulfilled and lack of compromise and I would suspect Peel, who seem to be aligned with Sale, will be playing hardball as usual. Remember it was them in the first place who upset John Wilky’s plan on the pretext it would be competition for the Trafford Centre which they eventually sold..
The thing to remember is that when there is a resolution that the Club really needs to work with the City to make it a special fulfilling Community Stadium.
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Post by dixon13 on Nov 11, 2023 14:44:06 GMT
Whoever is dragging this out at the council the mayor or anyone we should campaign to make sure that they don’t get any higher than they are and if it is the mayor we should make sure he won’t be mayor much longer How can we make sure he is not the mayor anymore,have we got a Donald Trump on the forum. Let us stop making wild accusations,maybe the club should have got the ducks in a row who knows Don't think every rate payer is on side they are not.my wife for one she was born in Swinton where I now reside she thinks Swinton should have got the same help we have had,is she wrong,and others think the same. I am not an apologist for the mayor but I think he is on our side. This seems to go back to the Garido's complaining then again it might not,but I would put money on Dennett on our side than the above mentioned. If you are on the council you should in interested in all the city not just millionaires row rant over |
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Post by Jim Jalfrezi on Nov 11, 2023 20:02:36 GMT
I can't really see a problem here. In my opinion it's all a case of posturing and negotiating.
I've a feeling that the club have spoken out at the right time.
I feel confident that it'll all come together, but I'm sure a few will disagree
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Post by chief on Nov 11, 2023 23:12:42 GMT
I can't really see a problem here. In my opinion it's all a case of posturing and negotiating. I've a feeling that the club have spoken out at the right time. I feel confident that it'll all come together, but I'm sure a few will disagree I hope, with all my heart, that you are right. |
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Post by idrewthehaggis on Nov 11, 2023 23:41:28 GMT
Couple of points. I took the opportunity to watch Salford City today. Despite everything, I am convinced it is not for us, but it is significantly better than a number of supposed top flight Yorkshire RL clubs.We are lucky to have the Salford community/aj beli stade. Second the stadium transfer is as ive said elsewhere is not just about sport. There is 13k squares of office space at the ground available. The current price for renting a square m in Eccles is around £40/50 pcm. That is alot of savings. It is hugpely merited for the council to acquire the ground aside from how iot benefits SRD. I await the Council response, but I can anticipate that PK's poker stance will provoke some action. I see a temporary deal with some additional concessions, especially over food and drink. This should also be seen as the preparatory deal for the final agreement. I am not at all fearful about the future. Last JJR re-read the business case plan. My read on your statement may be Wrong, But it appears that it reads it was £1m in 12months.That aim to raise £1m was over a longer spell than a year. "To increase annual self-generated income to £1 million within 5 year." www.crowdfunder.co.uk/uploads/projects/1505862/1682350908_salford_rd_holdings_cbs_business_plan.pdf |
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Post by worsleyreddevil on Nov 12, 2023 8:49:20 GMT
Couple of points. I took the opportunity to watch Salford City today. Despite everything, I am convinced it is not for us, but it is significantly better than a number of supposed top flight Yorkshire RL clubs.We are lucky to have the Salford community/aj beli stade. Second the stadium transfer is as ive said elsewhere is not just about sport. There is 13k squares of office space at the ground available. The current price for renting a square m in Eccles is around £40/50 pcm. That is alot of savings. It is hugpely merited for the council to acquire the ground aside from how iot benefits SRD. I await the Council response, but I can anticipate that PK's poker stance will provoke some action. I see a temporary deal with some additional concessions, especially over food and drink. This should also be seen as the preparatory deal for the final agreement. I am not at all fearful about the future. Last JJR re-read the business case plan. My read on your statement may be Wrong, But it appears that it reads it was £1m in 12months.That aim to raise £1m was over a longer spell than a year. "To increase annual self-generated income to £1 million within 5 year." www.crowdfunder.co.uk/uploads/projects/1505862/1682350908_salford_rd_holdings_cbs_business_plan.pdfCorrect the business plan is a 5 year term to become self sufficient. |
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Post by JJR on Nov 12, 2023 9:15:49 GMT
Yes the Business Plan is a 5 year plan but it has short term medium term and longer term objectives, as is normal in any Business Plan
Possibly read Objective 1, Short Term, Launch of the Community Ownership Scheme…raise £1M by end 2023
And Short Term by the end of 2023 raise £1,5 to £2M
Being constructive this is where the Club could need help in developing a rigorous Business Plan with contingencies…using the age old SWOT analysis on all parts
Writing a Business Plan is common place but rigorously testing it is the strength. Without a strong tested Business Plan businesses end up where we are now…ask any banking strategist
It also seems the Club could possibly be strengthened by utilising improved negotiating and contracting skills
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Post by john964 on Nov 12, 2023 9:32:06 GMT
I can't really see a problem here. In my opinion it's all a case of posturing and negotiating. I've a feeling that the club have spoken out at the right time. I feel confident that it'll all come together, but I'm sure a few will disagree I hope, with all my heart, that you are right. If the current lease runs out 1/12 it does not give a lot of time to say anything. I wonder what would have happened on 1/12 if nothing said? In that case then this was the correct time to speak out, even if late in the day. Problem maybe knock on effect for new signings, but actually I feel we are in a not to bad a position, certainly not as bad as some doom and gloom merchants. Reading between the lines, i suspect on 1/12 we may have had 1 year extension offered on similar terms, to sort out later long term deal. Which is something we did not want (due to match funding bid/IMG/business plan), hence why statement made to get it all sorted now not later. I have no concerns with SRD Board and will back them, my concerns are City Council, how quick can they react. I hope, with all my heart, that it'll all come together. |
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Post by cmillward20 on Nov 12, 2023 9:43:18 GMT
I hope, with all my heart, that you are right. If the current lease runs out 1/12 it does not give a lot of time to say anything. I wonder what would have happened on 1/12 if nothing said? In that case then this was the correct time to speak out, even if late in the day. Problem maybe knock on effect for new signings, but actually I feel we are in a not to bad a position, certainly not as bad as some doom and gloom merchants. Reading between the lines, i suspect on 1/12 we may have had 1 year extension offered on similar terms, to sort out later long term deal. Which is something we did not want (due to match funding bid/IMG/business plan), hence why statement made to get it all sorted now not later. I have no concerns with SRD Board and will back them, my concerns are City Council, how quick can they react. I hope, with all my heart, that it'll all come together. Sure I read if you don’t have a 5 year tenancy agreement the rfl could kick you out the league? Img will definitely do so though so a one year agreement isn’t going to cut it. As for signing your right who’s going to sign for us now and even if/when we get this sorted it’s probably to late we’re going to go into a season with the worst pack in the league and a squad of about 21 a few injuries a we won’t even have a side. This whole stadium thing has ruined us |
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Post by JJR on Nov 12, 2023 10:03:17 GMT
It’s normal during negotiations CM to have interim agreements. IMG will fully understand the situation. There is easily enough time to negotiate the future..rest easy…at the moment😉
Yes the squad is looking threadbare and it’s the coaching team I really feel sorry for..putting all that time in to get the spine working and to bring in two young forwards that we then lose is to me is the issue ..I just hope we can keep hold of Rowley and his 5 year vision..
It’s alright continually saying …we’ll it’s Salford…we have no money..and we’re a survival and selling team…but how long in the newly formed commercial era will it last?
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Post by mauricethered on Nov 12, 2023 10:36:16 GMT
Seems some more new fans have signed this who did not first time around, the more that sign this petition the better. It makes a point to Salford Council even if it was designed to keep us at our stadium before the Sale/FC and Gerrard bids were refused. Lets get sharing again .............. |
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Post by dixon13 on Nov 12, 2023 11:47:44 GMT
The council decide they are not selling to Sale and Salford City,and putting a plan in place for it to become community based and help us.
We were all over the moon,so can someone tell me what and why that changed because I am not having it that Mayor Dennett didn't get backing for the community based idea in the first place I am not having it that people are giving their councillors ear ache.
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