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I’ve been at lots of grounds where whole stands shout forward when it clearly wasn’t. At least four of our tries at the last game at Cas last year would have been ruled out if the crowd had been the judge. No away team would ever have a try allowed at Leeds or Widnes to name but 2 grounds where the crowd love a cry of ‘forward’. It is hard to see hand position from the crowd which is a key indicator

Equally most crowds don’t shout for their own teams forward passes. Doesn’t mean they weren’t.

As I understand it, if one foot is onside then the player is judged to be onside. Smart teams get their players to be on the ball of their back foot on side ready to push off as the ball is played. Lots of fans call that offside but it isn’t.

Likewise players ‘being in front of the ref’ isn’t necessarily off side. They have to be 10m back. The ref will sometimes be more or less than 10m away so will judge accordingly. Again, not all fans get that. I do think there is inconsistency in off side given and not

I thought the ref had a pretty good game last week and didn’t think off side was a particular problem by either team.

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Just saw the stats you posted. I think they are simply remembering the two runs he had. It seems often that a couple of plays over shadow consistent quality throughout a game. It's why 'grafters' hardly ever end up in the headlines but they are crucial to a teams performance.

I always thought in rugby that both feet need to be behind wherever the mark is to be onside. If you HB puts a kick in and you have one foot ahead of his then you are offside even if the back leg is behind? I remember a few years back they clamped down for a short while on the goal line offside and the refs could be heard shouting "both feet". Either way, players rarely have one foot behind the line and the ones either side of the PTB are often a joke.

Forward passes are rarely called here but I watched an NRL warmup game the other week. I watched several actually back to back that were 30 minutes each and multiple forward passes were called, some had several in a game. I do think they are letting them go to speed up the game and make it more attacking. Sky completely ignore them now.

It's similar with increasing speed around the PTB. A fast game is exciting but how often does someone actually touch it with their foot? How often is a genuine attempt made to play the ball with the foot? How often does a player place the ball on the ground as they are rising, using it for extra leverage to get up? I'd rather we just change the rule so that you can use the ball to get up and that you can simply roll it back under your legs. Ultimately, I don't care if someone touches it with their foot or not, but let's just change the rule and have consistency.