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Post by gadger on Mar 27, 2021 8:40:07 GMT
One other thing I would say is this years performance was better than our opener against Saints last year. We never looked in it last year but up until they scored their 3rd try tonight we were hanging on. Given the upheaval in close season that’s a positive for me.
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Post by redunderthebed on Mar 27, 2021 8:45:47 GMT
True that Gadger. This was more like the GF. Never looked like we were gonna score many but worked hard to stop them running away with it
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Post by redunderthebed on Mar 27, 2021 8:49:29 GMT
A few other thoughts...
I thought Kear was very good
Taylor is a real workhorse and very impressive - 29 tackles in the first half, plenty of hit ups and good passing too
Addy isn’t a SL standard hooker
There were a few positional changes at times - Kear was full back a few times and him and Inu kept swapping who was wing and centre. Marshall has talked about having players in different positions so I wonder if that will be part of the tactics
Tui, Watkins and Lannon need to communicate better in defence
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Post by salfordredforever on Mar 27, 2021 9:43:06 GMT
First game of the season and even on reading some of the reviews having watched the game still feel very disappointed. Yes Saints are Saints, but overall I think they were there for the taking. I didnt think the game overall was good from both teams. Yes, INU had a mare and before the game, Marshall banged on about how good they had been working on the defence. The defence were shocking last night. The tries we gave away or just didnt compete in were clear to see.
He should have played Escare and had Watkins and Sarge in the centres. The effort was there on occasions but again I think we ran scared of them and were beaten even before we took the field.
I know its the first game out etc so a long season ahead, but on the first showing I`m a little worried...On the flip side, I wish we had played Wigan last night as they were awful and there for the taking.
Hope I`m proved wrong and we get a win soon....would hate to be on here in a few weeks when its reading P5 L5 and bottom of the league.
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Post by russ on Mar 27, 2021 10:00:42 GMT
First game of the season and even on reading some of the reviews having watched the game still feel very disappointed. Yes Saints are Saints, but overall I think they were there for the taking. I didnt think the game overall was good from both teams. Yes, INU had a mare and before the game, Marshall banged on about how good they had been working on the defence. The defence were shocking last night. The tries we gave away or just didnt compete in were clear to see. He should have played Escare and had Watkins and Sarge in the centres. The effort was there on occasions but again I think we ran scared of them and were beaten even before we took the field. I know its the first game out etc so a long season ahead, but on the first showing I`m a little worried...On the flip side, I wish we had played Wigan last night as they were awful and there for the taking. Hope I`m proved wrong and we get a win soon....would hate to be on here in a few weeks when its reading P5 L5 and bottom of the league. You're right to be worried.  For Saints to be there for the taking you need a far more competitive side out there, Leigh for example.
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Post by SalfordSlim on Mar 27, 2021 10:57:53 GMT
First game of the season and even on reading some of the reviews having watched the game still feel very disappointed. Yes Saints are Saints, but overall I think they were there for the taking. I didnt think the game overall was good from both teams. Yes, INU had a mare and before the game, Marshall banged on about how good they had been working on the defence. The defence were shocking last night. The tries we gave away or just didnt compete in were clear to see. He should have played Escare and had Watkins and Sarge in the centres. The effort was there on occasions but again I think we ran scared of them and were beaten even before we took the field. I know its the first game out etc so a long season ahead, but on the first showing I`m a little worried...On the flip side, I wish we had played Wigan last night as they were awful and there for the taking. Hope I`m proved wrong and we get a win soon....would hate to be on here in a few weeks when its reading P5 L5 and bottom of the league. Think that's a bit of a harsh assessment. I didn't think the defence as a whole was shocking it was more the 1 on 1 errors (Sarge & Inu being outjumped, Lannon's feeble effort going too high on Walmsley). None of Saints tries were from ripping us apart or going 60 metres which must be a first for us. I think perspective is needed. Saints are the best team in the league, we had no recognised hooker (Ackers will make a difference when back), 10 new faces... and we were in the game for 60 minutes. We'd have probably beaten a few teams last night even with the mistakes. I think the attack will click but may take a few games. We've been given a tough start with Saints & Hull but then it's Catalans, Leigh & Cas. We'll pick up some wins there and very much doubt we'll be P5/L5. We better not be because we then have Saints, Wigan (with players back) & Wire in May.😂 |
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Post by SalfordSlim on Mar 27, 2021 11:14:14 GMT
Inu has games like that in him and I’m surprised so many people overlook it I'm not sure we do overlook it as fans tbh. Inu is a game changer (sometimes the wrong way!😁)... almost unstoppable from 5/10 yards out 1 on 1 (and sometimes 1 on 3!), has the ability to make ridiculous try assists with his offloads and generally causes havoc ball in hand. He's usually a great option for the high kick as well with his height and handling. It's just that when it goes wrong it tends to do so spectacularly and last night was the perfect example! We could play someone far more safe in Williams who doesn't have that attacking flair but I think you have to take the rough with the smooth with Inu. I mean there is the small matter of him making the DL Dream Team last season so he can't be too bad right?😁 Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. If he has another 3/4 bad games then, like any player, he takes a seat in the stands. I just think it was rustiness last night and I'm pretty sure he had a slow start last season as well and that didn't turn out too badly.👍 |
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Post by russ on Mar 27, 2021 11:55:59 GMT
A post mortem based on Inu's preformance is so wrong it beggars belief.
Saints = rusty but effective, SRD = rusty and looking for positives and answers all over the place.
The team will improve on this no doubt. Whether or not it'll be enough is the question.
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Post by giasf on Mar 27, 2021 11:57:22 GMT
So many people needing to take their heads for a wobble. Saints are comfortably the best team in the league, and most importantly they (a) have been playing as basically the same team for several years now and (b) have the best hooker in the league. Those were the main differences between the sides last night.
I suspect Marshall will want to revisit a few of his positional selection decisions - I genuinely love Sarginson but he's a centre not a FB, and we need to revisit hooker - Addy worked hard but his distribution is not quite where it needs to be currently. I think we need to have a new plan for our HBs by the end of the season as well... we look a threat across the pitch but do lack of a bit of cut through that for example we saw from Lomax last night.
Overall whilst disappointed we couldn't get more points on the board and having let in a few fixable tries I saw another Salford team out there that has quality and played with intensity and aggression (finally!). After watching so many years of lazy tripe it's a real pleasure to see a Salford team playing on the front foot and giving it everything. Remain excited for how we'll go this season.
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Post by russ on Mar 27, 2021 12:06:47 GMT
The interpretation of events by fans is the point and people cannot be wrong by having an opinion.
Saints always work on closing down the go forward of the side they're playing and finding answers to that is difficult enough.
SRD's basic setup and inability to alter was the problem yet again.
Really disappointed in the end result of a coaching and quality squad failure.
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Post by bonitared on Mar 27, 2021 13:20:04 GMT
Our defence was good. It was individual errors that did us.
He’ll learn from his team selection.
Inu was due a stinker because,as has been said,he has that in his game. He won’t be allowed another one like that against Hull and retain his place. Not with Williams in the squad
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Post by Redrum on Mar 27, 2021 13:58:11 GMT
Thought we went well in patches, sarg isnt a FB but ran well, didn't think kear offered that much tbo. Taylor looks good, pauli seems to have a couple of knock ons per game and didn't disappoint. Like the look of patton and livett, cut the errors and penalties and that would have been much closer.
One thing I will say is the amount of times saints were off side was unreal. Seems this is a popular trait as Wigan were doing the same, constantly offside cost them 2 pens per game but gave us no room to play and if that's acceptable by the ref then we should all be doing it.
Was always gonna be tough start but it wasn't a disaster.
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Post by Carnster on Mar 27, 2021 14:01:57 GMT
The interpretation of events by fans is the point and people cannot be wrong by having an opinion. Absolutely. Not wrong to have an opinion. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but their opinion CAN be wrong. An important distinction. |
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Post by JJR on Mar 27, 2021 15:00:26 GMT
Thought we went well in patches, sarg isnt a FB but ran well, didn't think kear offered that much tbo. Taylor looks good, pauli seems to have a couple of knock ons per game and didn't disappoint. Like the look of patton and livett, cut the errors and penalties and that would have been much closer. One thing I will say is the amount of times saints were off side was unreal. Seems this is a popular trait as Wigan were doing the same, constantly offside cost them 2 pens per game but gave us no room to play and if that's acceptable by the ref then we should all be doing it. Was always gonna be tough start but it wasn't a disaster. Totally agree re offside for both Saints and Wigan ( I did think it was just me who saw it) They seem to gain a yard or two, but all together, at each ptb. The one ref who stamps it out is Thaler as he did in the semi against Wigan, but in the Final Kendall was awful,in that respect We're not as savvy as a team in that respect and individuals get caught out. Oz reffing kills most of the offsides and to me it's the one thing that is really negative in the game, stifling space for anyone who plays Saints or Wigan Don't want to get on the ref moan bandwagon but I thought the ref last night had a poor game; Saints 2nd try a joke ( having got it wrong on two previous occasions) and Fages head tackle on Inu and a professional foul on a kick thro should have been in the bin on two occasions. Too much niggly whistle as well. But he's one of the better ones. Difficult job but they have to work with their touch judges and sadly light years behind the NRL. Our mistakes cost us the game, but I did like our enthusiastic well organised defence and without probably 3 starting members of the pack thought they were really good. Matched Saints. |
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Post by Redrum on Mar 27, 2021 15:12:06 GMT
Thought we went well in patches, sarg isnt a FB but ran well, didn't think kear offered that much tbo. Taylor looks good, pauli seems to have a couple of knock ons per game and didn't disappoint. Like the look of patton and livett, cut the errors and penalties and that would have been much closer. One thing I will say is the amount of times saints were off side was unreal. Seems this is a popular trait as Wigan were doing the same, constantly offside cost them 2 pens per game but gave us no room to play and if that's acceptable by the ref then we should all be doing it. Was always gonna be tough start but it wasn't a disaster. Totally agree re offside for both Saints and Wigan ( I did think it was just me who saw it) They seem to gain a yard or two, but all together, at each ptb. The one ref who stamps it out is Thaler as he did in the semi against Wigan, but in the Final Kendall was awful,in that respect We're not as savvy as a team in that respect and individuals get caught out. Oz reffing kills most of the offsides and to me it's the one thing that is really negative in the game, stifling space for anyone who plays Saints or Wigan Spot on. I think it will really catch on this year as it prohibits set plays and stifles the attack to a five metre trundle, when SL coaches see the paltry 2 or 3 penalties it gives away the advantage is huge. |
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