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Post by redunderthebed on Aug 13, 2019 12:49:29 GMT
I was appalled at how much booing and abuse the injured Huddersfield players were getting from Salford fans. And how much the ref was getting as if it was anything to do with him! Loads of people saying he should have played on. Just plain wrong. I would always support being over cautious with head injuries than the other way round.
The player who was walked off got loads. If someone has a head injury it is correct that they take the shortest route to the dug out/ changing rooms. You should not expect a player with a head injury to walk 10/15 metres back over the try line on opposite direction of where they will be assessed plus then have the whole width of the pitch added as they walk round it
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Post by SalfordSlim on Aug 13, 2019 13:12:33 GMT
I was appalled at how much booing and abuse the injured Huddersfield players were getting from Salford fans. And how much the ref was getting as if it was anything to do with him! Loads of people saying he should have played on. Just plain wrong. I would always support being over cautious with head injuries than the other way round. The player who was walked off got loads. If someone has a head injury it is correct that they take the shortest route to the dug out/ changing rooms. You should not expect a player with a head injury to walk 10/15 metres back over the try line on opposite direction of where they will be assessed plus then have the whole width of the pitch added as they walk round it RUTB. The lad being helped off with jelly legs was applauded off from what I recall. I'm pretty sure the majority of the abuse was aimed at the countless other Hudds players that were feigning injuries left, right and centre in order to waste time and get a breather, which the ref generally ignored. Hudds have previous for this and it's obviously a tactic they employ to bend the rules (how many of their players went down when they were on the attack?). Remember Ikahihifo stopping a certain try last season by pretending to have a head knock and then winking at the South Stand as he went off?🙄 Even Griffiths (the ref) had had enough when Gaskell tried to stop the shot clock on a drop-out due to "injury" #352 of the match and just made him get on with it. It was literally every set when one of them went down and I'm not buying it for one minute that they were all genuine injuries. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 13:28:15 GMT
I was appalled at how much booing and abuse the injured Huddersfield players were getting from Salford fans. And how much the ref was getting as if it was anything to do with him! Loads of people saying he should have played on. Just plain wrong. I would always support being over cautious with head injuries than the other way round. The player who was walked off got loads. If someone has a head injury it is correct that they take the shortest route to the dug out/ changing rooms. You should not expect a player with a head injury to walk 10/15 metres back over the try line on opposite direction of where they will be assessed plus then have the whole width of the pitch added as they walk round it RUTB. The lad being helped off with jelly legs was applauded off from what I recall. I'm pretty sure the majority of the abuse was aimed at the countless other Hudds players that were feigning injuries left, right and centre in order to waste time and get a breather, which the ref generally ignored. Hudds have previous for this and it's obviously a tactic they employ to bend the rules (how many of their players went down when they were on the attack?). Remember Ikahihifo stopping a certain try last season by pretending to have a head knock and then winking at the South Stand as he went off?🙄 Even Griffiths (the ref) had had enough when Gaskell tried to stop the shot clock on a drop-out due to "injury" #352 of the match and just made him get on with it. It was literally every set when one of them went down and I'm not buying it for one minute that they were all genuine injuries. You’ve said yourself that you went on the Huddersfield boards to give them grief about concussed players coming back on and it’s been pointed out that that player didn’t actually come back on (although they do actually look similar). Only one player who went off to be checked for concussion actually came back on. How about we give the actual experts (you know the qualified sports doctors who are on the pitch and can assess the players) the benefit of the doubt at least? Fine booing Huddersfield’s tactics but booing someone being carried off is crossing the line no matter what the circumstances. |
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Post by redunderthebed on Aug 13, 2019 14:29:43 GMT
Four players went off with head injuries. How do you know whether they are real or not? Only if they have jelly legs? One came back on. Fine to not applaud if you don’t want. But don’t boo them when you don’t know. As London red said trust the medical staff who make the calls.
The ref was right to put the stop clock on. Gaskell went down injured after the ball went dead so it’s play on inc stop clock. That’s called applying the rules which is the refs job. If he did it because he was fed up of the Hudds players getting injured that would be very worrying - a ref breaking the rules because he’s annoyed at a team? I’m not sure we should be encouraging that as a good thing!
English (jelly legs) was applauded off when he left the pitch but he was booed when he went down and the treatment/assessment took so long and when he fell the 2nd time. There was a very mixed response to the other 3. A woman in front of me was screaming abuse st the ref for stopping for the injuries then screaming at the ref for not stopping the game when a Salford player was knocked over and got up and was treated on the run!
It was an incredibly stressful game and I understand people getting frustrated at the stoppages when we were attacking the line and needed to score but booing an injured player is never ok in my opinion
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 15:15:39 GMT
No one got booed for being injured. They got booed for perceived time wasting. When it became apparent that an injury was more serious then the player was applauded off by the crowd.
Amazingly, all the injuries happened with Hudds 12-10 up and Salford camped on their tryline. No injuries occured after we took the lead, which of course was sheer coincidence.
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Post by salfordlad1 on Aug 14, 2019 5:41:02 GMT
I was appalled at how much booing and abuse the injured Huddersfield players were getting from Salford fans. And how much the ref was getting as if it was anything to do with him! Loads of people saying he should have played on. Just plain wrong. I would always support being over cautious with head injuries than the other way round. The player who was walked off got loads. If someone has a head injury it is correct that they take the shortest route to the dug out/ changing rooms. You should not expect a player with a head injury to walk 10/15 metres back over the try line on opposite direction of where they will be assessed plus then have the whole width of the pitch added as they walk round it One of the Huddersfield injuries was genuine, however another one was definitely questionable and I would have to say I thought they were cheating on Sunday and trying to get a breather when they were under enormous pressure towards the end of the game. Even Watto mentioned it in his after match interview with Paul Whiteside. They knew what they were doing. |
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Post by salfordlad1 on Aug 14, 2019 5:41:44 GMT
No one got booed for being injured. They got booed for perceived time wasting. When it became apparent that an injury was more serious then the player was applauded off by the crowd. Amazingly, all the injuries happened with Hudds 12-10 up and Salford camped on their tryline. No injuries occured after we took the lead, which of course was sheer coincidence. Spot on! |
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Post by Redrum on Aug 14, 2019 9:19:55 GMT
Dudson has got off with a warning for his hit below the knees: www.rugby-league.com/article/55510/disciplinary--match-review-panelAt the time I thought he might be in trouble afterwards. We have done very well with the disciplinary so far this year. But nobody mentions that because it doesn’t fit the ‘everyone is against Salford’ conspiracy theories. Genuinely, do you think this has anything to do with the fact koukash isn't having a pop at them via red wine and social media? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 9:36:19 GMT
Dudson has got off with a warning for his hit below the knees: www.rugby-league.com/article/55510/disciplinary--match-review-panelAt the time I thought he might be in trouble afterwards. We have done very well with the disciplinary so far this year. But nobody mentions that because it doesn’t fit the ‘everyone is against Salford’ conspiracy theories. Genuinely, do you think this has anything to do with the fact koukash isn't having a pop at them via red wine and social media? It probably didn’t do us any favours. Not saying we were intentionally stitched up but unconscious bias can creep in when a club owner is regularly tweeting abuse their way. |
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Post by SalfordSlim on Aug 14, 2019 11:22:48 GMT
Ok my final say on the matter as I think my comments have been misconstrued.
1) I'd never intentionally boo an injured player
2) I'll happily go as far as saying Hudds were CHEATING by feigning most of the injuries in order to waste time and get a breather/disrupt our momentum.
And I'm not one of those South Standers who questions every ref decision etc. I'm just not gullible enough to believe that every Hudds player that went down "injured" was actually hurt. I think Watto coming out and questioning some of the goings-on kinda sums it up as he's a pretty level-headed guy and not one to let his emotions get the better of him. Fortunately we got the win so the tactics didn't work.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 21:12:23 GMT
If it has been/was that transparent that Huddersfield were cheating in this manner on Sunday then surely the RFL need to take action.
For starters the HIA rule is a big thing and if there is even a hint of any underhand tactics with its use there needs to be set in stone punitive Measures brought in.
You're caught cheating or abusing the HIA system 2 competition points deducted, players health can be effected by bringing them back on when suffering from a head injury so to fein it is pretty heinous in my book.
Same should apply if the ref deems a player to be faking injury to slow play down, instant 10 minutes would soon sort that out.
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