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Post by JJR on Apr 11, 2019 12:21:17 GMT
Well spotted HR. I hate preeeeeeedictive techs
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Post by russ on Apr 11, 2019 12:39:09 GMT
I can say one thing salford will be in the first or second division in 3 yrs that is if we are still a club, if this is allowed to happen. so dont come crying to me or shouting from the roof tops, in 3 yrs when the club you say you support are no more. Well the first here is that will probably happen whether or not NY and Ottowa join.
If our club disappears it will be because not enough money comes into the club not because NY joins SL.
The two things are mutually exclusive but might happen coincidentally at the same time.
And we'll all be too busy crying then much like we were the last time it nearly happened.
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Post by russ on Apr 11, 2019 12:44:06 GMT
During the Second World War Rugby League was banned in France by the Vickey Government: fact. From which the demise started. I understand it was a bigger sport than RU at that time. No crowds were fine and the game was doing okay but the yawn hand worked away and they had help from disillusioned Leaguies ... no change there then.
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Post by russ on Apr 11, 2019 15:27:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 16:05:11 GMT
From the RFL's point of view it's hard to not look at those names and be extremely impressed and interested, might also be a bargaining chip for future TV deals if ESPN became interested in showing European games too. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 16:05:51 GMT
Surely real development of the game would be setting up an American/Canadian league rather than plonking teams in the UK leagues from thousands of miles away.
Good luck to them but this idea that games like Ottawa vs Cas are going to save the sport is quite barmy in my eyes.
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Post by bonitared on Apr 11, 2019 17:47:46 GMT
Cutting through the crap, the issue is what to do with Canadian and American applications.
The idea that this could lead to decision making being swamped from overseas is ludicrous,it’d be great to have that problem to deal with.
The RFL has to consider the applications on their merits and surely they have a bullshit meter. I suspect Wilby needs checking out when he says that Virgin Atlantic’s premium economy is their version of business class. I only highlight this because it is complete bollocks,not particularly relevant to their business plan,but just an example of an untruth. I hope the rest of their application makes good sense because a team in New York,if viable,would be great.
Let’s judge these applications on their merits rather than regarding them as an existential threat to the sport.
Having said all that,I suspect the financials won’t stand up to close scrutiny so it won’t happen.
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Post by russ on Apr 11, 2019 18:32:32 GMT
Having said all that,I suspect the financials won’t stand up to close scrutiny so it won’t happen. Due dilligance is all that's required for that.
But the target of moving beyond the M62 should be the prize for us, breaking out of that false barrier is our El Dorado!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 20:58:58 GMT
If these 2 new bids come to fruition and gain a foothold I can see Koucash getting involved in a transatlantic venture, he's been mooted with Cumbria and a Liverpoo bid so see no reason why not a North American team. A team in Boston and shamelessly aimed at the Irish heritage would get tremendous press so I'd guess that will be looked at eventually. That way they could potentially market games over in the UK and maybe actually in Ireland itself.
As an aside there seems to be little press about the Ottawa bid, makes you wonder if it isn't of the same quality as NY.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 21:03:01 GMT
Something I could see happening if NY get into the league is them using the existing NY team (NY Knights) as a feeder club and take on fringe UK/Aus/NZ players and having a bigger pool of talent, maybe even cherry pick the best of the existing USA RL league and have them work alongside the main squad to see who progresses.
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Post by kreuzbergred on Apr 11, 2019 21:27:37 GMT
Something I could see happening if NY get into the league is them using the existing NY team (NY Knights) as a feeder club and take on fringe UK/Aus/NZ players and having a bigger pool of talent, maybe even cherry pick the best of the existing USA RL league and have them work alongside the main squad to see who progresses. They had a Meeting abooot (Canadian pronunciation) this Subject Overseas RL Clubs in Salford earlier today. Here's the Statement from earlier. First story on the left www.rugby-league.com/article/54714/rfl-statement--overseas-clubs |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 21:38:47 GMT
Something I could see happening if NY get into the league is them using the existing NY team (NY Knights) as a feeder club and take on fringe UK/Aus/NZ players and having a bigger pool of talent, maybe even cherry pick the best of the existing USA RL league and have them work alongside the main squad to see who progresses. They had a Meeting abooot (Canadian pronunciation) this Subject Overseas RL Clubs in Salford earlier today. Here's the Statement from earlier. First story on the left www.rugby-league.com/article/54714/rfl-statement--overseas-clubsi read that earlier, what I am saying more is that if there is to be teams in the USA then they must be aligned with teams already in existence so that players in that league have a pathway to bigger and better things.
For instance for me Toronto should have been made to fund a team in the existing league so that younger less experienced Canadian players have an opportunity to play and hopefully show that there is talent over there rather than simply importing player after player.
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Post by scoot on Apr 11, 2019 21:53:26 GMT
If these 2 new bids come to fruition and gain a foothold I can see Koucash getting involved in a transatlantic venture, he's been mooted with Cumbria and a Liverpoo bid so see no reason why not a North American team. A team in Boston and shamelessly aimed at the Irish heritage would get tremendous press so I'd guess that will be looked at eventually. That way they could potentially market games over in the UK and maybe actually in Ireland itself.
As an aside there seems to be little press about the Ottawa bid, makes you wonder if it isn't of the same quality as NY.
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Post by prestwichred on Apr 11, 2019 22:05:32 GMT
If these 2 new bids come to fruition and gain a foothold I can see Koucash getting involved in a transatlantic venture, he's been mooted with Cumbria and a Liverpoo bid so see no reason why not a North American team. A team in Boston and shamelessly aimed at the Irish heritage would get tremendous press so I'd guess that will be looked at eventually. That way they could potentially market games over in the UK and maybe actually in Ireland itself.
As an aside there seems to be little press about the Ottawa bid, makes you wonder if it isn't of the same quality as NY.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 22:06:11 GMT
Think the method Ottawa have gone about things will be what other investors/consortium's look at, buying an existing club and using the registration with the RFL in a different location (ALA Hemel Hempsted).
Teams struggling in the lover leagues like the 2 Welsh franchises and Keighley might find themselves with interest in people only interested in the RFL license.
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