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Post by russ on Apr 9, 2019 19:39:46 GMT
Parochial is as parochial does. Forrest Gump 1994 Casablanca 1942
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Post by russ on Apr 9, 2019 19:41:43 GMT
Do people really think that by having all these extra teams, ie, new york , toronto, etc is going to attract any more fans to watch the game at the Grounds, and not on the tele, you are living in cloud cuckoo land, You have the saints owner this week, saying the 1,500 tickets they sold is great for the club and the game, it is the fans going for a piss up in spain for a week, with a match thrown in, does he really think he is going to get 1,500 fans, going to watch, the catalans, toulouse, new york, toronto, Belgrade, and who ever the rfl decide to let in. The fans will choose 1 game per season to go to, at the moment it is the catalans because they can get cheap flights to spain. Plus you only have so many players to go round, these new clubs are not bringing any players into the game, all they are doing is paying the players more than other teams can pay them, because they have got rich backers, pumping money into the teams they own. so all they are doing is forcing the smaller clubs into the lower leagues, ie, salford, wakefield, Hkr, london, and dont think a few of the big clubs will still be in super league in 5 yrs time because they wont be. so if you as a salford fan are happy to watch your rugby on the tele feel free to back this load of tripe, I can say one thing salford will be in the first or second division in 3 yrs that is if we are still a club, if this is allowed to happen. so dont come crying to me or shouting from the roof tops, in 3 yrs when the club you say you support are no more. So other than that, you're completely positive about expansion? |
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Post by kreuzbergred on Apr 9, 2019 21:09:58 GMT
Do people really think that by having all these extra teams, ie, new york , toronto, etc is going to attract any more fans to watch the game at the Grounds, and not on the tele, you are living in cloud cuckoo land, You have the saints owner this week, saying the 1,500 tickets they sold is great for the club and the game, it is the fans going for a piss up in spain for a week, with a match thrown in, does he really think he is going to get 1,500 fans, going to watch, the catalans, toulouse, new york, toronto, Belgrade, and who ever the rfl decide to let in. The fans will choose 1 game per season to go to, at the moment it is the catalans because they can get cheap flights to spain. Plus you only have so many players to go round, these new clubs are not bringing any players into the game, all they are doing is paying the players more than other teams can pay them, because they have got rich backers, pumping money into the teams they own. so all they are doing is forcing the smaller clubs into the lower leagues, ie, salford, wakefield, Hkr, london, and dont think a few of the big clubs will still be in super league in 5 yrs time because they wont be. so if you as a salford fan are happy to watch your rugby on the tele feel free to back this load of tripe, I can say one thing salford will be in the first or second division in 3 yrs that is if we are still a club, if this is allowed to happen. so dont come crying to me or shouting from the roof tops, in 3 yrs when the club you say you support are no more. So here we are in April 2019. 8 months away from the Beginning of a New decade If we were able to look forward Another 10 years. Would you be happy for the Same teams I'm thinking of the Likes of Batley Dewsbury Swinton Rochdale etc just surviving season after season? Instead of teams like Toulouse who have exactly the same right as The Cumbrian teams the Championship Teams in Yorkshire to be in the Superleague, I say hats off to anybody who wants to try starting up a RL club in a Non heartland area, |
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Post by russ on Apr 10, 2019 5:52:29 GMT
Do people really think that by having all these extra teams, ie, new york , toronto, etc is going to attract any more fans to watch the game at the Grounds, and not on the tele, you are living in cloud cuckoo land, You have the saints owner this week, saying the 1,500 tickets they sold is great for the club and the game, it is the fans going for a piss up in spain for a week, with a match thrown in, does he really think he is going to get 1,500 fans, going to watch, the catalans, toulouse, new york, toronto, Belgrade, and who ever the rfl decide to let in. The fans will choose 1 game per season to go to, at the moment it is the catalans because they can get cheap flights to spain. Plus you only have so many players to go round, these new clubs are not bringing any players into the game, all they are doing is paying the players more than other teams can pay them, because they have got rich backers, pumping money into the teams they own. so all they are doing is forcing the smaller clubs into the lower leagues, ie, salford, wakefield, Hkr, london, and dont think a few of the big clubs will still be in super league in 5 yrs time because they wont be. so if you as a salford fan are happy to watch your rugby on the tele feel free to back this load of tripe, I can say one thing salford will be in the first or second division in 3 yrs that is if we are still a club, if this is allowed to happen. so dont come crying to me or shouting from the roof tops, in 3 yrs when the club you say you support are no more. So here we are in April 2019. 8 months away from the Beginning of a New decade If we were able to look forward Another 10 years. Would you be happy for the Same teams I'm thinking of the Likes of Batley Dewsbury Swinton Rochdale etc just surviving season after season? Instead of teams like Toulouse who have exactly the same right as The Cumbrian teams the Championship Teams in Yorkshire to be in the Superleague, I say hats off to anybody who wants to try starting up a RL club in a Non heartland area, This sport has been beset ( is that how you spell it? ) with limited outlooks, horizons, administrators and fans since it's creation. They have more reasons than Barmy Mick for staying exactly where you are and buying the same old tat.
Endemic Metathesiophobia ( you'll thank when it comes up as the last question on Millionaire or the tie breaker at the pub quiz)
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Post by JJR on Apr 10, 2019 15:18:52 GMT
Ottawa and New York putting their bids in to start 2020. So in 5 years time SL will be
Toronto, Ottawa, Belgrade, New York, Catalan, Toulouse, London. Wigan/ Warrington/ Saints ( combined team), Hull ( combined team), Leeds, Wakefield ( plans definitely in to build a new ground), Newcastle ( we must reach out to spread the word)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 15:22:48 GMT
Ottawa and New York putting their bids in to start 2020. So in 5 years time SL will be Toronto, Ottawa, Belgrade, New York, Catalan, Toulouse, London. Wigan/ Warrington/ Saints ( combined team), Hull ( combined team), Leeds, Wakefield ( plans definitely in to build a new ground), Newcastle ( we must reach out to spread the word) Surely if there were enough North American team SL would be split into 2 conferences, then a structure where the top halves of each division played for the title and the bottom halves played to avoid relegation.
There is though the obvious question where will players of the right quality come from other than to take in more and more from Australia/NZ and fill teams that way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 15:24:50 GMT
A very real worry for me would be that teams new into SL will flood the voting process in their favour, I can see that removing the salary cap would follow quickly and then teams with the backers will take the best players from other teams/leagues and pretty soon the majority of UK teams will turn into nothing but feeder clubs.
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Post by russ on Apr 10, 2019 16:37:26 GMT
www.seriousaboutrl.com/to-expand-or-not-that-is-the-question-20062/Worth a look if you're interested, Love RL on the other hand is bog stardard "I'm Agin it, now and forever!" Given the way it all works in the UK the best we could hope for is to stay as we are, but much more likely decline like the French from the 1960's onwards. Whichever way it goes the clubs at the bottom will be the first losers as they always are.
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Post by JJR on Apr 10, 2019 17:33:26 GMT
The French RL declined because in the forties RL was made 'illegal'.
The trouble is the RL appears to be just chasing money from the media, sponsors etc. And that's all temporary as we all know. We do have a good product, we do have a very sound base but the base is being/ has been destroyed and RL being given to the rest of the world who really don't know anything about it.
We have a major business and there is no Business Plan for the long term. That's how RL operates in this Club, most clubs and the League, sadly....survival, not planned development.
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Post by buxtonred60 on Apr 10, 2019 18:44:34 GMT
A very real worry for me would be that teams new into SL will flood the voting process in their favour, I can see that removing the salary cap would follow quickly and then teams with the backers will take the best players from other teams/leagues and pretty soon the majority of UK teams will turn into nothing but feeder clubs. That is if there are any small clubs left to be feeder clubs, the RFL want this because it is money in the back pocket, Manchester rangers have just been turned down because they would not put up 1/2 million deposit, but they are talking of bringing in clubs from around the world, Wait till they ask super leagues clubs for 1/2 MILLION DEPOSIT for next season, we for one can not afford it. over xmas toronto players didnt get paid, what did the rfl do about that,  nothing. wake up people and smell the roses there will be no rugby league as we know it soon, and you will be watching 15 games a season live, the rest will be on the tele . |
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Post by russ on Apr 10, 2019 19:40:34 GMT
The French RL declined because in the forties RL was made 'illegal'. The trouble is the RL appears to be just chasing money from the media, sponsors etc. And that's all temporary as we all know. We do have a good product, we do have a very sound base but the base is being/ has been destroyed and RL being given to the rest of the world who really don't know anything about it. We have a major business and there is no Business Plan for the long term. That's how RL operates in this Club, most clubs and the League, sadly....survival, not planned development. The French RL declined because in the forties RL was made 'illegal'. I'm afraid this is not correct the zenith was mainly the fifties and early sixties.
Yes planned development has always been missing.
RL is not being destroyed by new teams, new areas it is doing that all by itself for not having planned development as you poited out.
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Post by JJR on Apr 10, 2019 20:25:08 GMT
During the Second World War Rugby League was banned in France by the Vickey Government: fact. From which the demise started. I understand it was a bigger sport than RU at that time.
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Post by steveh on Apr 11, 2019 8:15:54 GMT
During the Second World War Rugby League was banned in France by the Vickey Pollard Government: fact. From which the demise started. I understand it was a bigger sport than RU at that time.
Corrected for a laugh ;-)
Vichy France - though there is no mention of outlawing Rugby League in France under the Vichy regime.
Rugby League in France (edit: this article does go in to the outlawing under the Vichy regime... I am not a Vichy outlawing denier lol)
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Post by hillbillyred on Apr 11, 2019 11:45:08 GMT
It was outlawed. It is well documented. And that players were incarcerated for being RL is not a laugh, then or now. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/rugby-league/24547273We missed a beat in inventing the Rugby World Cup then allowing the title to be nabbed by our friends. |
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Post by hillbillyred on Apr 11, 2019 11:49:47 GMT
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nothing.