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Post by bandgeekmafia78 on Aug 8, 2016 8:26:40 GMT
As mentioned it seems that the attendances for the home play off games will be a factor, if true why on earth did someone decide to play yesterdays game at the same time as the football, stupid really when it wasn't on Sky meaning we could easily have played Saturday afternoon and got a few hundred more down. If Salford fans would rather watch a fairly irrelevant game of football than go to a crucial Middle 8's game, that's a big concern.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 8:53:59 GMT
I think more there are floating fans who might have come to Salford but watching what I think was the first game of the football season would tempt them into the pub.
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Post by russ on Aug 8, 2016 9:59:41 GMT
I think more there are floating fans who might have come to Salford but watching what I think was the first game of the football season would tempt them into the pub. Sadly we talk about crucial changes in society as far as RL is concerned but the easy option seems to be the killer when people are making their entertainment choices and the stadium does not fit that requrement in almost every single way. Going back to Marwan and the above I was thinking about the Snape era as a comparison. There are many parallels especially in the big signings periods and the differences would all seem to revolve around where the Willows was and the attitude of the public towards their town and team. If Marwan can change this, with the help of the new juction, he will have performed a minor miracle on that score alone. I have no doubt that in this day and age you need someone or a few someones with money to compete with Leeds, Wigan and I think Hull now. To become a trophy winning side you need those same people in there for the long haul. So Doc "Keep your eye on the prize, hold on!" in the words of the song.
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Post by salfordlad1 on Aug 9, 2016 6:13:15 GMT
As mentioned it seems that the attendances for the home play off games will be a factor, if true why on earth did someone decide to play yesterdays game at the same time as the football, stupid really when it wasn't on Sky meaning we could easily have played Saturday afternoon and got a few hundred more down. Criminal move once again by the club, I recon we'd have got easy another 500 fans there if we'd have played on Saturday. I'll do the maths 500 x £22.50 (Middle of Pre-Matchday and Matchday) £11,250. A lot toward our marketing budget for next year. Sort it out gentleman.
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Post by russ on Aug 9, 2016 10:08:07 GMT
It was interesting to hear Tim Sheens saying it could all come down to the crowds during the middle 8's that determine if MK stays.
Sadly I think that means the end.
MK needs to stay,and the crowds won't change in that kind of short term.
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Post by greg on Aug 9, 2016 10:24:12 GMT
I've only started following Rugby League and Salford this season, attending my first home game against Huddersfield on Sunday - what a brilliant performance! I've read numerous times on this forum as to how the remote location of the stadium has meant the club losing many supporters from the Willows, as well as making it difficult to attract new ones, and I saw this for myself at the weekend. The AJ Bell is clearly not very accessible, with people seemingly having to park quite a long way out and face quite a trek to the ground. I was just wondering, roughly what is the population figure within a mile of the stadium? Given its inaccessibilty, surely it is these people that the club should be targeting as regular supporters?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 14:10:04 GMT
Nice post-Greg. And well observed. Sorry to be a tad blunt but the club doesn't give a toss about its supporters, nevermind targeting a new area etc, the Old Regime are responsible for Salford's demise and the current owners haven't helped matters, with the way the club has been handled recently, they're literally millimetres away from nailing the final nail, it's been in the hands of a bunch of comedians ever since Snape handed the keys over to the comedians.Then Arthur Daley handed the club over to another comedian in Koukash, Laughing stock is unfortunately imprinted in our DNA., hence this ridiculous situation we find ourselves in. And this was predicted by the now dormant support who have decided to stay away and vote with their feet many many years before this disastrous move to the White Elephant was dreamt about and then prostrated to us without any consideration.
So the club was warned about this erosion of support and they answered by putting Two fingers up to the heartlands of Salford. Build it and they'll come was a well-proclaimed quote by the deluded board members.
I have now put Two fingers up to them like many others. I decided to give it a go at the White Elephant. And now I've had enough. I cannot stomach the comedy show anymore, If Koukash, the players can't be arsed well neither can I.
And yes, we played well on Sunday, people are festing about Sunday's performance. So what, I ain't fickle like most fans, we're usually consistent at being inconsistent,One Game Wanders, the damage is far too deep rooted to ever overturn in my eyes.
The only way I can see a resurgence in support is if the Doc pulled off a masterstroke in getting involved with Swinton's project and sharing amenities, however, he's not got the heart to even consider staying on nevermind relocating us back where we belong.
So I'm sorry Greg for painting the true reflection of What was once Salford Rugby, You've got one hell of a shi**y road ahead, get off while you can you mad-head. You won't last long watching this turd of a club, it's all uphill believe me.
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Post by bandgeekmafia78 on Aug 9, 2016 14:20:46 GMT
@dantes Inferno I think part of the appeal of being a Salford supporter is the amount of adversity constantly being faced, and the underdog nature of it all. That's just me though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 14:40:24 GMT
Adversity is that appealing the terraces are jam packed with supporters mate,
With comedians running the show with the club residing arguably out the City, it is too much for many to take.
For Salford Rugby to survive without a sugar-daddy it has to relocate back somehow.
Watch Swinton's crowd boom in their new home. They'll be on par with Salford in a division below. I've a feeling they'll attract the lost Salford support
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Post by russ on Aug 9, 2016 15:33:57 GMT
Phew, that was a few posts that were sad to read.Even if everything said were true the depth of feeling down and negativity is depressing to say the least. I'm not sure why when you feel that way you wouldn't move on altogether. It can't be good for your health and well being to feel like that. If I felt that way I wouldn't be wasting my time writing about it on here and discouraging others who have just begun their journey with my decline and tales of doom. I have every sympathy for people who can't see the end of the tunnel it's an awful place to be especially when it revolves around one of your core places.
Personally I'll still support MK and want him to stay because I believe he's the way out of a lot of where we found ourselves now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 15:43:58 GMT
Think people need to get over the stadium, the Willows was a hovel but it was a centrally located hovel, Barton is a nice new stadium with pretty decent facilities (Ok cack ale and gets a bit windy) that is in an area that over the years will become a major hub for commerce and retail. Only Salford could be so unlucky to have a bridge collapse (which apparently needs to be pulled down and started from scratch) that would ease the issue with transport, the club in either the Doc or Wilky disguise have done nothing to alleviate the public transport problem, there should be shuttle buses taking people to Eccles after the game, before isn't an issue as people seem to drink in various places pre game but afterwards getting everyone to a location with good public transport links, plenty of parking and a train station would make for a much better experience.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 16:27:46 GMT
People have got over the stadium. They've stopped attending because of its location.
Koukash has already reiterated that without a Sugar-daddy the club wouldn't survive under current standings. As a shrewd calibre of business Koukash is in his everyday life, he's obviously failed as the club isn't solvent to stand alone, that's a huge flaw in any business model. And there's only so much money you can throw down a bottomless pit before you realise it's a no-win situation regardless of how much money he has at his disposal. Mk must have thought in the words of Dragons Den. For that reason, Im out.
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Post by bonitared on Aug 9, 2016 16:37:47 GMT
Dantes,I understand your comments about the location of the stadium but your earlier comments about the team being one match wonders is way off beam. The points deduction is a fact of life,but in terms of points actually won we were a top 6 side,over a full season. This is the best team,with Sheens and Watson the best coaching staff,for some considerable time. Again,you may be able to correct me,but I can't recall you ever posting a positive item
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 17:02:56 GMT
People have got over the stadium. They've stopped attending because of its location. Koukash has already reiterated that without a Sugar-daddy the club wouldn't survive under current standings. As a shrewd calibre of business Koukash is in his everyday life, he's obviously failed as the club isn't solvent to stand alone, that's a huge flaw in any business model. And there's only so much money you can throw down a bottomless pit before you realise it's a no-win situation regardless of how much money he has at his disposal. Mk must have thought in the words of Dragons Den. For that reason, Im out. You're out and don't you glory in telling people about it! There are probably 4 self financing teams in SL the rest either like us rely on a benefactor or are happy to simply tread water in the hope of better times ahead. Which would I prefer obviously to be self financing but it's pretty obvious that it will take years to come about, we already have the benefactor so that option is taken care of and floundering is something many of us have had a lifetime (and a bellyful) of. The Doc has come into Salford and for me was given very poor guidance from the get go and been milked by hangers on and I suspect agents overcharging for extremely average players. Without doubt we have turned a corner on the playing front and in Tim Sheens the Doc has found what he really needed a wise well respected man who will tell the Doc as it is rather than paying him lip service. As I said elsewhere I know it's easy for me as I am investing nothing but a few beers tokens into the club but my hunch is if the Doc stuck it out for a couple of seasons or 3 then we would get to a point where the crowds would reach the required levels, we'd see more and more academy products make the grade and hopefully the infrastructure of the club run in a manner befitting a SL team of substance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 17:34:03 GMT
bonitared. If you speak to fans from the big top five clubs Wigan, Saints, Wire, Leeds, and Hull, They'll agree that this has been one of the most below par seasons of Superleague on record in terms of standard and skill levels.
However, if you speak to Salford, Wakefield, and Widnes fans they'll say they've improved in all areas.
The truth is, no one is wrong. Every club is right. The standard of the top of Superleague has declined, World Club Challenge is proof of this, whilst the lower half of Superleague has improved. The middle Eight results are proof of this against Championship clubs with the exception of Leigh. However, you're festing over Salford's result last week, whereas I'm fuming about a very poor Huddersfield team scored two very soft tries which against better opposition could've been worrying. We're very capable of scoring thirty points and also very capable of conceding thirty points against anybody. It all depends on if the players turn up, have you forgot the times they've failed to turn up this season.
We'll see on Saturday if the One Game Wonders can be consistent.
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