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Post by dixon13 on Feb 25, 2017 21:38:34 GMT
I don't see what some 'fans' see when talking about Dobson. He organises, he dictates play, he kicks, and the team revolve around him. If people can't see what he brings to the side I think they must be facing away from the pitch most of the time. He's still only thirty and brings tons of experience and ability. I wouldn't say he was finished. I'm not sure why anyone would think that. He got in the clear twice and hadn't got the legs.That's not being critical it was a fact.I made the remark and maybe I shouldn't have to the post that Dobson was the man of the match.If you had said that coming away from Headingley last night they would have been sending for the white van and getting you of the street.Let's see who is scrum half when Carney's fit because you can't move Lui.Michael Dobson has been a good servant to Super League but age catches up with every one believe me. |
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Post by dixon13 on Feb 25, 2017 22:11:00 GMT
Totally agree hammerlessnail about Dobbo & the amount of stick he gets from a few thickos on Twitter & Mr Dixon on here is shabby. Obviously they have never played the game. Great effort and a draw would have been right - yes 7th and still 6 top lads to come in. Murray playing for Bradford by the way on Sunday. Who did you play for Mr Bath. |
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Post by Carnster on Feb 25, 2017 22:55:40 GMT
I don't see what some 'fans' see when talking about Dobson. He organises, he dictates play, he kicks, and the team revolve around him. If people can't see what he brings to the side I think they must be facing away from the pitch most of the time. He's still only thirty and brings tons of experience and ability. I wouldn't say he was finished. I'm not sure why anyone would think that. He got in the clear twice and hadn't got the legs.That's not being critical it was a fact.I made the remark and maybe I shouldn't have to the post that Dobson was the man of the match.If you had said that coming away from Headingley last night they would have been sending for the white van and getting you of the street.Let's see who is scrum half when Carney's fit because you can't move Lui.Michael Dobson has been a good servant to Super League but age catches up with every one believe me. Hey, it's okay if you disagree with everything I say. That's your prerogative. If you think Dobson is past it, that's your opinion. Getting a little tired with someone who can't at least show a little humility and at least provide a balanced alternative. Debating with you is like playing chess with a pigeon... At some point it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory. |
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Post by earlybath on Feb 25, 2017 22:56:35 GMT
Only amateur Mr D - never good enough I'm afraid but I do understand a little bit about the game as clearly you have a lot to learn.
Think you are a member of the Dobbo Twitter Boo Boys club arent you? Well - get used to the idea that he is our playmaker certainly for the next 18 months - hes not a finisher as you want him to be. Great player - get behind our Captain as you should do from now on and tell your pals to as well.
To add a bit of meat on the bone to prove that you are being hyper critical of a great pro - here are some comparable player ages of playmakers - are they all finished too?
Rob Burrow 34
Danny Maguire 34
Thomas Leuluai 31
Kevin Brown 32
Mickey Higham 36
John Wilkin 33
Danny Brough 34
Liam Finn 34
Finally - are you aware that Todd Carney is 30 as well? Surely he's not done either?
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Post by bonitared on Feb 25, 2017 23:43:56 GMT
Well said
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 23:56:10 GMT
I think the decision to go for goal was the right one. The idea that we should have gone for a drop goal or to trap Leeds touch in goal assumes that we'd get that drop goal or would indeed trap Leeds touch in goal. If we'd tapped the penalty and then failed to achieve either of those objectives, then people would be on here moaning that we should have gone for goal. I also don't think it's fair to suggest Gareth O'Brien hadn't kicked well all night. The two kicks he missed were both from wide out on the touchline. Meanwhile, Rob Burrow seemed to have a left boot shaped like a sheriff's badge, with the ball spinning off it in any random direction, but they still went for pretty much any kickable penalty. Disappointed to have come away with a loss, particularly having seen footage of the winning try. That initial pass was so far forward, even Kevin "Elway" Brown would have put his hand up to acknowledge it was a bad one. Plenty of positives though. Lui had his best game for some time, and seemed to run with the ball much more than he has been doing recently, while Dobson was, I thought, easily the best player on the field. Kopczak too had a stormer. One of our problems is, I think, that we have to rely too much on him. None of the replacement forwards seem able to have anything like as much impact as he does. We're seventh in the table now, by the way. I think your the only one in the crowd who thought Dobson was the best man on the pitch.Let's be honest he is finished.  |
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Post by dixon13 on Feb 26, 2017 11:39:39 GMT
Only amateur Mr D - never good enough I'm afraid but I do understand a little bit about the game as clearly you have a lot to learn. Think you are a member of the Dobbo Twitter Boo Boys club arent you? Well - get used to the idea that he is our playmaker certainly for the next 18 months - hes not a finisher as you want him to be. Great player - get behind our Captain as you should do from now on and tell your pals to as well. To add a bit of meat on the bone to prove that you are being hyper critical of a great pro - here are some comparable player ages of playmakers - are they all finished too? Rob Burrow 34 Danny Maguire 34 Thomas Leuluai 31 Kevin Brown 32 Mickey Higham 36 John Wilkin 33 Danny Brough 34 Liam Finn 34 Finally - are you aware that Todd Carney is 30 as well? Surely he's not done either? I am sorry you weren't good enough.And Dobson still finished admit it. |
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Post by scoot on Feb 26, 2017 12:05:04 GMT
Only amateur Mr D - never good enough I'm afraid but I do understand a little bit about the game as clearly you have a lot to learn. Think you are a member of the Dobbo Twitter Boo Boys club arent you? Well - get used to the idea that he is our playmaker certainly for the next 18 months - hes not a finisher as you want him to be. Great player - get behind our Captain as you should do from now on and tell your pals to as well. To add a bit of meat on the bone to prove that you are being hyper critical of a great pro - here are some comparable player ages of playmakers - are they all finished too? Rob Burrow 34 Danny Maguire 34 Thomas Leuluai 31 Kevin Brown 32 Mickey Higham 36 John Wilkin 33 Danny Brough 34 Liam Finn 34 Finally - are you aware that Todd Carney is 30 as well? Surely he's not done either? I am sorry you weren't good enough.And Dobson still finished admit it. If Dobson wasn't playing we would be finished. One of the best organisers in the game |
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Post by hammerlessnail on Feb 26, 2017 12:39:05 GMT
He got in the clear twice and hadn't got the legs.That's not being critical it was a fact.I made the remark and maybe I shouldn't have to the post that Dobson was the man of the match.If you had said that coming away from Headingley last night they would have been sending for the white van and getting you of the street.Let's see who is scrum half when Carney's fit because you can't move Lui.Michael Dobson has been a good servant to Super League but age catches up with every one believe me. So, your argument is that because he doesn't have the pace to finish off moves (he never has, really), his career is over. Following your impeccable logic again, if Salford had been lucky enough to secure the services of Wally Lewis in his prime, you'd have been on here bellyaching that he wasn't good enough. Come on, admit it. It seems your problem is that you view Salford (and Rugby in general) through **** tinted spectacles, and thus only see the things that tally with your incredibly negative world view. Come on, admit it. |
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Post by dixon13 on Feb 26, 2017 12:41:15 GMT
I am sorry you weren't good enough.And Dobson still finished admit it. If Dobson wasn't playing we would be finished. One of the best organisers in the game He was organising last season and we finished in the million pound game.Your a member of the forum fan club some people are not.But of our fan base how many use the forum,not many.Is that because everyone as to have the same opinion. |
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Post by dixon13 on Feb 26, 2017 12:53:39 GMT
He got in the clear twice and hadn't got the legs.That's not being critical it was a fact.I made the remark and maybe I shouldn't have to the post that Dobson was the man of the match.If you had said that coming away from Headingley last night they would have been sending for the white van and getting you of the street.Let's see who is scrum half when Carney's fit because you can't move Lui.Michael Dobson has been a good servant to Super League but age catches up with every one believe me. So, your argument is that because he doesn't have the pace to finish off moves (he never has, really), his career is over. Following your impeccable logic again, if Salford had been lucky enough to secure the services of Wally Lewis in his prime, you'd have been on here bellyaching that he wasn't good enough. Come on, admit it. It seems your problem is that you view Salford (and Rugby in general) through **** tinted spectacles, and thus only see the things that tally with your incredibly negative world view. Come on, admit it. Now you are being a silly billy Dobson and Wally Lewis in the same breath.Wally was faster over twenty yards that's all he needed also he was faster in the head.I will give you that Kenny Gill wasn't the fastest but fast enough in the head.Also he had fast men to finish his brilIiance off.Also I saw a better half on Friday Rod Burrows.Don't you agree. |
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Post by hammerlessnail on Feb 26, 2017 12:55:52 GMT
Just a quick though about this 'poor game management' guff. Last week, Salford scored the same number of tries as Huddersfield, but secured a comfortable victory on the back of Gareth O'Brien taking kickable penalties. Why was it not poor game management then?
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Post by Carnster on Feb 26, 2017 13:41:16 GMT
So, your argument is that because he doesn't have the pace to finish off moves (he never has, really), his career is over. Following your impeccable logic again, if Salford had been lucky enough to secure the services of Wally Lewis in his prime, you'd have been on here bellyaching that he wasn't good enough. Come on, admit it. It seems your problem is that you view Salford (and Rugby in general) through **** tinted spectacles, and thus only see the things that tally with your incredibly negative world view. Come on, admit it. Now you are being a silly billy Dobson and Wally Lewis in the same breath.Wally was faster over twenty yards that's all he needed also he was faster in the head.I will give you that Kenny Gill wasn't the fastest but fast enough in the head.Also he had fast men to finish his brilIiance off.Also I saw a better half on Friday Rod Burrows.Don't you agree. Context is everything dixon13. hammerlessnail was simply providing you with an example. A counterpoint, to your nonsensical ramblings. He wasn't comparing Wally Lewis and Dobson, he was making a point about how your mentality works. Using your own soundbite, you need to be 'faster in the head'. Rob Burrows? Apples and oranges... |
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Post by dixon13 on Feb 26, 2017 16:12:27 GMT
Now you are being a silly billy Dobson and Wally Lewis in the same breath.Wally was faster over twenty yards that's all he needed also he was faster in the head.I will give you that Kenny Gill wasn't the fastest but fast enough in the head.Also he had fast men to finish his brilIiance off.Also I saw a better half on Friday Rod Burrows.Don't you agree. Context is everything dixon13. hammerlessnail was simply providing you with an example. A counterpoint, to your nonsensical ramblings. He wasn't comparing Wally Lewis and Dobson, he was making a point about how your mentality works. Using your own soundbite, you need to be 'faster in the head'. Rob Burrows? Apples and oranges... Give me half back who makes break is fast enough to finish it off. On Friday night as I have said Dobson got in the clear twice and was caught.Surely you saw that.Are you all right on the forum if we all agree,if that's the case it will end like the Turkey.You are in the fan club I like others think Dobson is past is sell bye date. |
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Post by Carnster on Feb 26, 2017 16:32:23 GMT
Have you been on the beer this afternoon?
I'm genuinely struggling to understand what you are on about.
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