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Post by dixon13 on Feb 24, 2017 22:33:34 GMT
Effort 100 percent.Game management not very good.Why we went for goal and not the conner only Dobson can tell us.That decision cost us the game in my opinion.
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Post by johnh1 on Feb 24, 2017 22:37:12 GMT
No, the blatant forward pass for Leeds last minute try cost us the game. Just seen it and it is ridiculously forward.
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Post by dixon13 on Feb 24, 2017 23:32:16 GMT
No, the blatant forward pass for Leeds last minute try cost us the game. Just seen it and it is ridiculously forward. Sorry to disagree if we had gone for the conner.Leeds would never have got back in our half. |
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Post by Astleyred on Feb 25, 2017 5:36:05 GMT
Going for the 2 definitely cost us coming away with something, he was never going to get it, isn't the best kicker majority of the time.
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Post by Carnster on Feb 25, 2017 7:27:02 GMT
It's a disappointing way to lose a game regardless of whether game management played a factor. We wouldn't be saying anything about this if the kick had gone over. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Always gutting to lose a game where factors out of the players control decided the outcome. We can only hope that these things balance out over a season.
The difference between top sides and us seems to be the ability to play mediocre but still get the win. We rarely play poorly and get a win. Hopefully, the nature of this defeat wont effect them too hard and we can improve next week which will be a real test.
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Post by bandgeekmafia78 on Feb 25, 2017 8:01:22 GMT
The effort and determination is there. Gutted that the ref hasn't seen that forward pass.
Hopefully we are just a Todd Carney away from turning these narrow losses in to victories.
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Post by 13 on Feb 25, 2017 12:46:42 GMT
The effort and determination is there. Gutted that the ref hasn't seen that forward pass. Hopefully we are just a Todd Carney away from turning these narrow losses in to victories. Great problem to have....the return of Weller, BBM, Justin Carney and Brining with Todd will only make us better. on another note - thought Rob Lui had a great game last night - keep it up!! |
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Post by dixon13 on Feb 25, 2017 13:06:43 GMT
It's a disappointing way to lose a game regardless of whether game management played a factor. We wouldn't be saying anything about this if the kick had gone over. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Always gutting to lose a game where factors out of the players control decided the outcome. We can only hope that these things balance out over a season. The difference between top sides and us seems to be the ability to play mediocre but still get the win. We rarely play poorly and get a win. Hopefully, the nature of this defeat wont effect them too hard and we can improve next week which will be a real test. I wasn't having ago.I can only report on what I had seen over 80 minutes the team deserved something.We get a penalty about 5 metres into their half 3 minutes 40 left on the big screen clock.We should have been tapping it on their 25,five drives and a drop or trap then in goal either two points or one that we deserved.Obrien had not kicked well all night.Nothing to do with hindsight just bad decision making. |
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Post by Carnster on Feb 25, 2017 13:49:46 GMT
It's a disappointing way to lose a game regardless of whether game management played a factor. We wouldn't be saying anything about this if the kick had gone over. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Always gutting to lose a game where factors out of the players control decided the outcome. We can only hope that these things balance out over a season. The difference between top sides and us seems to be the ability to play mediocre but still get the win. We rarely play poorly and get a win. Hopefully, the nature of this defeat wont effect them too hard and we can improve next week which will be a real test. I wasn't having ago.I can only report on what I had seen over 80 minutes the team deserved something.We get a penalty about 5 metres into their half 3 minutes 40 left on the big screen clock.We should have been tapping it on their 25,five drives and a drop or trap then in goal either two points or one that we deserved.Obrien had not kicked well all night.Nothing to do with hindsight just bad decision making. I didn't think you were, and I agree with you for what it's worth. Just saying that it's easy to find fault with hindsight. If the forward passes had been picked up we may not have been talking about a specific incident in the game. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 15:28:58 GMT
It amazes me that in the final try scoring action there was 2 if not 3 forward passes, if the officials are that inept at keeping up with play then something must be done. As for the Leeds player coming from an off side position to take part in the try then that is inexcusable as if the game had been televised it would have been flagged and Salford would have had a penalty.
All teams must benefit from a video ref or non should, the fact that some teams are on Sky week in week out means statistically they get a better chance throughout the season of having the correct decision reached.
Do think we have missed out by not getting and out and out kicker, GOD is either or, Frano Botica one moment and Grassyarse the legless next. Carney kicks doesn't, wonder if he will get the nod.
As for Lui playing better and better after the Wigan game he needed to, I personally think Carney will be on the bench first time he is available (other injuries aside) and gradually introduced into the system, that said when you hear Watson being interviewed you get the slight impression he isn't in the best shape which is odd when you think he was boxing not long before we signed him.
On the subject of Watson what an incredible presser he did after the game, more and more he grows on me, when you see the footage of him last night he does seem to have comedy over sized hands!
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Post by hammerlessnail on Feb 25, 2017 18:04:16 GMT
I think the decision to go for goal was the right one. The idea that we should have gone for a drop goal or to trap Leeds touch in goal assumes that we'd get that drop goal or would indeed trap Leeds touch in goal. If we'd tapped the penalty and then failed to achieve either of those objectives, then people would be on here moaning that we should have gone for goal. I also don't think it's fair to suggest Gareth O'Brien hadn't kicked well all night. The two kicks he missed were both from wide out on the touchline. Meanwhile, Rob Burrow seemed to have a left boot shaped like a sheriff's badge, with the ball spinning off it in any random direction, but they still went for pretty much any kickable penalty.
Disappointed to have come away with a loss, particularly having seen footage of the winning try. That initial pass was so far forward, even Kevin "Elway" Brown would have put his hand up to acknowledge it was a bad one.
Plenty of positives though. Lui had his best game for some time, and seemed to run with the ball much more than he has been doing recently, while Dobson was, I thought, easily the best player on the field. Kopczak too had a stormer. One of our problems is, I think, that we have to rely too much on him. None of the replacement forwards seem able to have anything like as much impact as he does.
We're seventh in the table now, by the way.
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Post by dixon13 on Feb 25, 2017 18:30:04 GMT
I think the decision to go for goal was the right one. The idea that we should have gone for a drop goal or to trap Leeds touch in goal assumes that we'd get that drop goal or would indeed trap Leeds touch in goal. If we'd tapped the penalty and then failed to achieve either of those objectives, then people would be on here moaning that we should have gone for goal. I also don't think it's fair to suggest Gareth O'Brien hadn't kicked well all night. The two kicks he missed were both from wide out on the touchline. Meanwhile, Rob Burrow seemed to have a left boot shaped like a sheriff's badge, with the ball spinning off it in any random direction, but they still went for pretty much any kickable penalty. Disappointed to have come away with a loss, particularly having seen footage of the winning try. That initial pass was so far forward, even Kevin "Elway" Brown would have put his hand up to acknowledge it was a bad one. Plenty of positives though. Lui had his best game for some time, and seemed to run with the ball much more than he has been doing recently, while Dobson was, I thought, easily the best player on the field. Kopczak too had a stormer. One of our problems is, I think, that we have to rely too much on him. None of the replacement forwards seem able to have anything like as much impact as he does. We're seventh in the table now, by the way. I think your the only one in the crowd who thought Dobson was the best man on the pitch.Let's be honest he is finished. |
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Post by earlybath on Feb 25, 2017 18:31:41 GMT
Totally agree hammerlessnail about Dobbo & the amount of stick he gets from a few thickos on Twitter & Mr Dixon on here is shabby. Obviously they have never played the game. Great effort and a draw would have been right - yes 7th and still 6 top lads to come in. Murray playing for Bradford by the way on Sunday.
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Post by bonitared on Feb 25, 2017 18:47:48 GMT
I think your the only one in the crowd who thought Dobson was the best man on the pitch. Let's be honest he is finished. Finished ? This doesn't enhance your credibility |
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Post by Carnster on Feb 25, 2017 19:17:12 GMT
I don't see what some 'fans' see when talking about Dobson. He organises, he dictates play, he kicks, and the team revolve around him. If people can't see what he brings to the side I think they must be facing away from the pitch most of the time.
He's still only thirty and brings tons of experience and ability. I wouldn't say he was finished. I'm not sure why anyone would think that.
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