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Post by SalfordSlim on May 25, 2023 8:14:23 GMT
Yes I noted Halton when he played alongside Dupree in the international😉 Halton appears not to have been wanted, not exactly a top line player. Dupree..players agent probably offering Dupree around for more money (and his cut) and KR probably thought that it appears Salford struggling for cash…depends on what glasses you wear Robin and which paper you read with them…the Sun or the Guardian. We’ll never know but you really can’t compare apples and pears or Halton and Dupree…by the way if you get him, and before you do there’ll be a bidding war, he’s good at times and still has a lot to learn like our other r3ject Luckely😉 And if you’ve bought your Final tickets, we’ll buy them at a good price…no agent involvement. Keep smiling mate You will have also noticed in that International match that Dupree was stood next to Jez Litten during the national anthem. I would suggest every player has clauses in their contracts to receive a bonus should their club form lead to an International appearance and (according to reports in social media) one of the above aforementioned players was paid his whilst the other was asked to defer his until funds allowed leading to disenchantment and his tweet of 'two sides to every story'. Our cup final tickets would never be bought until our appearance was guaranteed mate but there is a growing optimism at the club that we can indeed challenge for silverware in the very near future. So where have you got the info about this deferred payment then? Tyler himself or someone within the KR club? If it's true then I'm sorry it's still poor form from Dupree. Everyone knows we aren't awash with cash (unlike some with rich benefactors). Depending on what that bonus would be for an international call-up, I'm pretty sure the club would've offered to pay him in instalments over the season as we've got some bigger matches in June/July/August and the increased crowd revenue will help cover it. No doubt Matthew Shaw will be breaking this "exclusive" now you've shared it though and using it as another stick to beat the club with.
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Post by BDD on May 25, 2023 8:32:50 GMT
I find it hard to believe (though not impossible) that Tyler has an England bonus in his contract. He signed his deal in the summer and was nowhere close to the England team having played less than half a season of SL. And I don't believe every player has those bonuses in their contract either. The vast majority of players don't get to play international so why would international bonuses be a part of every players contract? It makes little sense. Do we pay people bonuses because the get call up for a Serbia v Jamaica friendly? I think not.
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Post by russ on May 25, 2023 14:10:20 GMT
Do we pay people bonuses because the get call up for a Serbia v Jamaica friendly? I think not. I think that might be a case of discrimination if so
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Post by JJR on May 25, 2023 14:14:28 GMT
If it’s the case that he’s not been paid his bonus, concede, he’s young and it’s v important to him
Never go back on your word and always maintain your contract….if you don’t then in the end it costs.
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Post by russ on May 25, 2023 14:39:22 GMT
2 plus 2 makes 27
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Post by returningred on May 25, 2023 14:55:05 GMT
If it’s the case that he’s not been paid his bonus, concede, he’s young and it’s v important to him Never go back on your word and always maintain your contract….if you don’t then in the end it costs. If he had a clause in his contract stating a bonus would be due then the club would be in breach of contract. If they were in breach Harris would not have been requesting a transfer he would have been tendering his resignation due to breach! The fact Tyler has asked for a transfer would suggest to me that the club isn’t in breach and Tyler probably wanted a pay rise due to being selected for England which has been refused because he had just signed a new 3 year deal!
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Post by BDD on May 25, 2023 14:55:37 GMT
Do we pay people bonuses because the get call up for a Serbia v Jamaica friendly? I think not. I think that might be a case of discrimination if so Why would it? You either have international payments in your contract or you don't. I don't believe that every player has international bonuses in the contract because the vast majority never play international so why would it be a negotiation point for most deals?
Also, there is clearly a difference between a player reaching a level required to play for an England or NZ over Jamaica or Serbia. An international bonus is essentially performance related pay and I think, though I'm not sure, it doesn't count on the cap (up to a max value).
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Post by JJR on May 25, 2023 15:02:31 GMT
For you Russ
Let x=y, multiply each side by Y XY = Y.Y. Subtract X squared from each side XY- X.X = Y.Y - X.X Factorise X(Y-X) = (Y-X) (Y+X) Divide each side by (Y-X) So X = Y +X AS X=Y, then 1 = 2
So. Maybe you’re right Russ..2 + 2 May well = 27 🤣
I’ll Work on it for you 😉
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Post by JJR on May 25, 2023 15:05:31 GMT
RR the question might not be IF but WHEN, so no breach…but contracts😩
I had heard because of our financial situation we’ve been slow paying agents, fulfilling contracts etc but all hearsay
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Post by returningred on May 25, 2023 16:11:50 GMT
RR the question might not be IF but WHEN, so no breach…but contracts😩 I had heard because of our financial situation we’ve been slow paying agents, fulfilling contracts etc but all hearsay Clauses in bonuses etc will include timeframes! If we don’t pay in time then the club would be in breach so comment still stands. As for agents etc I think we all know they leak stuff to the press more than anyone so if that was the case we would have heard by now
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Post by JJR on May 25, 2023 16:56:29 GMT
As the expert in contracts RR what’s the timeframe here? In contracts there are often…guidelines not rules Unlike you RR I'm not trying to prove a point im just as we all, except you, must do is guess in th3 dark as most contracts are slightly different
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Post by returningred on May 25, 2023 17:04:27 GMT
Read Paul Kings interview where he is pretty honest in what went on! Confirms Harris was speaking to hull KR!
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Post by russ on May 25, 2023 17:04:50 GMT
I think that might be a case of discrimination if so Why would it? You either have international payments in your contract or you don't. I don't believe that every player has international bonuses in the contract because the vast majority never play international so why would it be a negotiation point for most deals?
Also, there is clearly a difference between a player reaching a level required to play for an England or NZ over Jamaica or Serbia. An international bonus is essentially performance related pay and I think, though I'm not sure, it doesn't count on the cap (up to a max value).
BDB if they had them for England caps but not any other international cap that would be discriminatory and was a part of saying how unlikely this story was.
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Post by russ on May 27, 2023 12:45:29 GMT
Er ....
Yorkshire Live
"Hull KR
Ins: Peta Hiku (NRL), AJ Wallace (Bradford),Oliver Gildart (NRL), Tyler Dupree (Salford)
Salford Red Devils
Ins: Brad Singleton (Wigan), Ethan Ryan (Hull KR)
Outs: Tyler Dupree (Hull KR)"
That's interesting.
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Post by russ on May 27, 2023 12:47:04 GMT
Read Paul Kings interview where he is pretty honest in what went on! Confirms Harris was speaking to hull KR! Ban him, simple!
I don't swear but he's a *$%£!+% twice!
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