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Post by SalfordSlim on Apr 1, 2023 15:05:47 GMT
F*ck me, some of you are obsessed with big packs.😂 Size isn't everything chaps... how did Hull's pack fair against us a few weeks back?
I've seen Hudds a few times and do t think they're all that TBH. Yes they've got a big squad but I personally think it's lacking that star quality. Their backs haven't got much in the way of pace so even if their forwards get on top I can't see them steamrolling us. Now stick Croft, Field & French in that team and it's a different matter but I'm not sh*tting a brick at the thought of a 97yo Leroy Cudjoe, McGillivray, Senior etc lining up against us.
I'm tipping us to win tomorrow despite our crap recruitment/lack of depth etc etc😴
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Post by cmillward20 on Apr 1, 2023 15:32:43 GMT
F*ck me, some of you are obsessed with big packs.😂 Size isn't everything chaps... how did Hull's pack fair against us a few weeks back? I've seen Hudds a few times and do t think they're all that TBH. Yes they've got a big squad but I personally think it's lacking that star quality. Their backs haven't got much in the way of pace so even if their forwards get on top I can't see them steamrolling us. Now stick Croft, Field & French in that team and it's a different matter but I'm not sh*tting a brick at the thought of a 97yo Leroy Cudjoe, McGillivray, Senior etc lining up against us. I'm tipping us to win tomorrow despite our crap recruitment/lack of depth etc etc😴 Definitely going to be a game of different styles tomorrow hudds plays a boring stats based game and well we play fast.
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Post by reddevil89 on Apr 1, 2023 16:17:46 GMT
What will be will be, gotta get behind the players we have fit and hope that none of them pick up any injuries, think he's keeping ackers safe for next week at Leigh
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Post by kilop on Apr 1, 2023 19:05:25 GMT
F*ck me, some of you are obsessed with big packs.😂 Size isn't everything chaps... how did Hull's pack fair against us a few weeks back? I've seen Hudds a few times and do t think they're all that TBH. Yes they've got a big squad but I personally think it's lacking that star quality. Their backs haven't got much in the way of pace so even if their forwards get on top I can't see them steamrolling us. Now stick Croft, Field & French in that team and it's a different matter but I'm not sh*tting a brick at the thought of a 97yo Leroy Cudjoe, McGillivray, Senior etc lining up against us. I'm tipping us to win tomorrow despite our crap recruitment/lack of depth etc etc😴 100% agree. It get s bit tedious hearing about it tbh. Just watched the NRL this morning and didnt see one huge forward on the pitch. All athletic and mobile. Yet we have a mindset stuck in the past. Baffles me
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Post by cmillward20 on Apr 1, 2023 19:13:45 GMT
F*ck me, some of you are obsessed with big packs.😂 Size isn't everything chaps... how did Hull's pack fair against us a few weeks back? I've seen Hudds a few times and do t think they're all that TBH. Yes they've got a big squad but I personally think it's lacking that star quality. Their backs haven't got much in the way of pace so even if their forwards get on top I can't see them steamrolling us. Now stick Croft, Field & French in that team and it's a different matter but I'm not sh*tting a brick at the thought of a 97yo Leroy Cudjoe, McGillivray, Senior etc lining up against us. I'm tipping us to win tomorrow despite our crap recruitment/lack of depth etc etc😴 100% agree. It get s bit tedious hearing about it tbh. Just watched the NRL this morning and didnt see one huge forward on the pitch. All athletic and mobile. Yet we have a mindset stuck in the past. Baffles me Athletic and mobile definitely but to say you didn’t see one huge forward is delusional 😂 Payne haas? Flegler? Carrigan? No Taniela Paseka. Bromwich. That’s just a few who are all 6,4 or bigger and round the 18stone mark. Now I agrees with what you say to a extent about size not being everything but to disregard size is just silly.
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Post by kilop on Apr 1, 2023 22:19:03 GMT
100% agree. It get s bit tedious hearing about it tbh. Just watched the NRL this morning and didnt see one huge forward on the pitch. All athletic and mobile. Yet we have a mindset stuck in the past. Baffles me Athletic and mobile definitely but to say you didn’t see one huge forward is delusional 😂 Payne haas? Flegler? Carrigan? No Taniela Paseka. Bromwich. That’s just a few who are all 6,4 or bigger and round the 18stone mark. Now I agrees with what you say to a extent about size not being everything but to disregard size is just silly. Fine to disagree. Am more bothered about styles of play which will dictate who wins tomorrow. Am presume wing Conditions will be poor, which may limit us and play g the way we want, but we will see. The HKR Leeds match last night was unbelievable for handling mistakes, especially from a certain Nelly o. The wing for leeds
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Post by cmillward20 on Apr 1, 2023 22:36:11 GMT
Athletic and mobile definitely but to say you didn’t see one huge forward is delusional 😂 Payne haas? Flegler? Carrigan? No Taniela Paseka. Bromwich. That’s just a few who are all 6,4 or bigger and round the 18stone mark. Now I agrees with what you say to a extent about size not being everything but to disregard size is just silly. Fine to disagree. Am more bothered about styles of play which will dictate who wins tomorrow. Am presume wing Conditions will be poor, which may limit us and play g the way we want, but we will see. The HKR Leeds match last night was unbelievable for handling mistakes, especially from a certain Nelly o. The wing for leeds Your right there conditions will definitely play a big part. For me if we can can handle there middles believe are back are more then capable of putting some points away.
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Post by redunderthebed on Apr 2, 2023 1:05:09 GMT
Was thinking while watching Brisbane earlier that we should try and sign that Payne Haas. Looks like he could become a decent player under Rowley….
Could go either way tomorrow. If their forwards get a roll on and Connor has one of his good days it could be a long afternoon. If our plans work an passes stick we could run them ragged again
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Post by BDD on Apr 2, 2023 12:20:28 GMT
I'm getting nervous... does 'home form' or 'away form' Salford turn up? The REAL Salford please 🙏👏
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Post by JJR on Apr 2, 2023 16:09:11 GMT
Attendance 4764; which inc about 500 Hudds fans
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 2, 2023 16:17:52 GMT
Attendance 4764; which inc about 500 Hudds fans Didn’t make a difference,your favourite ref sent is brother.
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Post by JJR on Apr 2, 2023 16:31:58 GMT
Not much wrong with the reffing; our indiscipline cost us…if you look at the season so far…we give away the most penalties and Huddersfield the least (twice as many as Huddersfield) and so it was today;
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Post by BDD on Apr 2, 2023 16:48:03 GMT
Now that's over... I don't know where our home game performances are coming from but it's chalk and cheese with our away form.
If we can bring our away form to all the games and keep our 17 fit then I still fancy us to sneak 6th, maybe 5th and cause anyone trouble on our day. Our kicking game needs a major injection of quality and we need to bring that energy and enthusiasm from the away games each week.
Anyway, back to the squad and salary cap from earlier in the thread (I've not been in for a few days). We have no money yet are spending over the odds on what we have.
King says we're near £2 million on wages (I'm assuming all wages so, 27 players and not the cap which is only 25 players) and Croft is a marquee palyer, so let's say we spend £2 million and Croft is earning 200k. That leaves £1.8 million. We have 26 players excluding Croft, so that almost £70k per player, which I think I quite a lot and some of our guys should not be close.
Costello and Borough came from academies and have never been first team players so shouldn't be on much (£30k?). Longstaff is still on his contract with Warrington which again will be coming from the youth team, so £30k or less, likely less. Hallewell is a career championship palyer, so too are Sidlow and Addy, Stone too, and even Williams none of them should be on big bucks or close to £70k. Atkin, Cross and Gerrard have also been championship players throughout their careers and are on their initial contracts with us, so again shouldn't be close to £70k. That's 11 out of 26 players already. Greenwood and Lannon have never been close to above average SL players who start week in and week ou, so if they are also aboce £35-40k. That's 13 of 26 players. Dixon is in the same category, since leaving us after his first stint he's been a championship palyer at Leigh, Toronto and Tolouse, so again, £40k tops, surely? That's 14 of 26 players.
That leaves 12 players and an averag of just over £100k for each. Wright? No way is he on that, he came over as a player who didn't get in the NRL first-grade, except in injury situations. Even if he is on £50-60k that elave a fair bit on the bank. Ormonroyd? Can't see him being on anything above £60k or so. Do you reckon that any of the following are on or worth £100k... Brierley (who I think is a bottom 4/5 FB in the league), Sneyd (not wanted when he signed for us), King? Dupree (even with his new deal, £30k above average? Watkins will be. Maybe Lafai on his new deal, but he's right up there with other centres in the league. Is Ackers on £100k after half a good season? Burgess? Sio? Partington? I don't see anyone besides Watkins, Croft and Lafai on £100k or more. Burgess inomagine is close, Sio too. Ackers might be close after a new contract but it shouldn't be that big without a larger sample of work.
From what I can see, we must be paying a lot of very average player far too much if we are spending almost £2 million. As good as we can be on our day, I just don't see this as a £2 million squad and we'd be far poorer under a different coach.
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Post by SalfordSlim on Apr 2, 2023 16:50:31 GMT
Indiscipline, silly mistakes and lack of bodies cost us today. A couple of really soft tries again and yet again losing key players during the game (Burgess) is absolutely killing us.
Huddersfield were solid and unspectacular yet completed their sets and defended well. Looking at the amount of firepower we had on the sidelines in their suits is tough to see when we've got a small squad but it is what it is and we just have to soldier on. The likes of Addy, Hellewell, Dixon clearly not up to speed and it shows.
Let's hope we can patch things up and get bodies back for 2 winnable games v Leigh & Cas.
Not sure about the crowd figure either. Seemed more that 4700 as Hudds brought at least double their usual turnout and south & west seemed pretty full.
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Post by SalfordSlim on Apr 2, 2023 16:53:24 GMT
BDB.... where do you get your figures for on salaries? I'll be honest that I have no idea what the average salary is but you're pretty specific with some of your estimates! Surely no-one can be on as low as £30k though as a first-team squad player?
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