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Post by worsleyreddevil on Mar 8, 2023 9:08:57 GMT
Clarity is needed here as the speculation is crazy certainly on reference to Moor Lane / Our board. The council really need to outline their plans - no idea why Sale would be given an option to buy unless Salford Council see it as a 'Get Out' if the stadiums continues to lose money.
Anyhow right now the Board has two jobs; Ian Blease to identify players we can afford to bring in to cover injuries as required / Paul King to ensure the club gets a tenancy deal from SCC to ensure the clubs sustainability and long term future at the stadium - as per the clubs statement on the stadium.
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Post by JJR on Mar 8, 2023 9:12:19 GMT
I heard the Club have no funds so additionally the Board needs to generate some so Blease can perhaps use his Quota spot.
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Post by worsleyreddevil on Mar 8, 2023 9:14:10 GMT
Who told you this JJR?
There are always ways and means - get some of our excess 2nd Rowers out on loan to generate funds, etc.
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Post by JJR on Mar 8, 2023 9:33:36 GMT
Squad of 27, with 6/7 injured…don’t really think it’s time to send people out on loan
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Post by worsleyreddevil on Mar 8, 2023 9:36:25 GMT
Squad of 27, with 6/7 injured…don’t really think it’s time to send people out on loan Depends on position, if we need a back but have surplus forwards then you loan a back for a forward. BTW How do you know we are short on funds JJR? |
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Post by lhred on Mar 8, 2023 10:12:47 GMT
I’m not sure if jjr realises but blease is also part of this board you know the one he says should raise funds,that wouldn’t fit his agenda of slagging of Paul king though if he knew Ian blease is part of the board whose jobs it is to raise funds!
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Post by BDD on Mar 8, 2023 10:19:33 GMT
Sale have had one game where they have packed out the stadium and that was on TV, look at their average crowds last year, plus they do very little for our Cities communities, the stadium is used mainly by them on match days, like other Union clubs they also have very significant debt. So them eventually buying the ground would require a significant cash injection. Would them owning the stadium benefit the City of Salford? Rather than judge the clubs board I'd suggest waiting to see what the councils plan actually is. Going through a due diligence process with two parties (Sale/FC and Gerrard) and rejecting both makes no sense in terms of the council buying Peel out then walking away a couple of years later, its not worth their time. There must be a rationale behind their planning to make this work, as BDB points out the possibilities for a Salford Community Stadium are endless. In the press release for the stadiums future both Sale and Salford have been promised more control of the stadium sales on a match day, lets see what this means once its clarified. We need colour here on what the future holds. At least the horror show that was a possible move to Moor Lane is well off the table. Agree with this. This new message seems very mixed with what we heard not long ago and it's seems bizarre the council would buy a stadium to then sell it to a party who's bid they rejected. The bit point here though, for me at least, is what you say about community. Sale aren't a part of Salford and the stadium needs to be a community asset and rub with a bit of forward thinking and ingenuity. There are so many possibilities. I'm sure people have plenty of ideas they could share and there must be lots of well run examples across the country. Surely the council could make the stadium profitable for the people of Salford to enjoy. As you mention, the debts in RU are incredible, including Sale so I don't know how the club itself affords a £16 million stadium but I would suspect it'd be funded through a separate entity and owned by the owners of Sale as this would protect the stadium from any issues Sale may run into further down the line. I also assume that the debt is debt owed to the owners. I think I read the Newcastle RU own their owner something like £30 million... it seems insane to me that all these RY owners are pulling so much into the clubs, it isn't a sustainable competition, but that's off-topic. For now, I'm thankful we're not going to ML. We have signed players to new contracts over the next 3-4 season which is a good sign. The worrying part is obviously the possible sale to Sale but surely there is much more clarity to come on the subject. It's my hope, as I mentioned in a previous post, that the stadium remains owned by the council and is made to work for the people of Salford and the clubs of Salford, Proper management will make it profitable because so far nothing has really been done. |
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Post by JJR on Mar 8, 2023 10:19:47 GMT
Blease isn’t on either Board; and it’s not about anybody LH…any board in any business has the prime responsibility to raise funds and keep the business in the best position.
Why is everything personal with you? There are two Boards within the.Club
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Post by mauricethered on Mar 8, 2023 11:09:24 GMT
Sale have had one game where they have packed out the stadium and that was on TV, look at their average crowds last year, plus they do very little for our Cities communities, the stadium is used mainly by them on match days, like other Union clubs they also have very significant debt. So them eventually buying the ground would require a significant cash injection. Would them owning the stadium benefit the City of Salford? Rather than judge the clubs board I'd suggest waiting to see what the councils plan actually is. Going through a due diligence process with two parties (Sale/FC and Gerrard) and rejecting both makes no sense in terms of the council buying Peel out then walking away a couple of years later, its not worth their time. There must be a rationale behind their planning to make this work, as BDB points out the possibilities for a Salford Community Stadium are endless. In the press release for the stadiums future both Sale and Salford have been promised more control of the stadium sales on a match day, lets see what this means once its clarified. We need colour here on what the future holds. At least the horror show that was a possible move to Moor Lane is well off the table. Agree with this. This new message seems very mixed with what we heard not long ago and it's seems bizarre the council would buy a stadium to then sell it to a party who's bid they rejected. The bit point here though, for me at least, is what you say about community. Sale aren't a part of Salford and the stadium needs to be a community asset and rub with a bit of forward thinking and ingenuity. There are so many possibilities. I'm sure people have plenty of ideas they could share and there must be lots of well run examples across the country. Surely the council could make the stadium profitable for the people of Salford to enjoy. As you mention, the debts in RU are incredible, including Sale so I don't know how the club itself affords a £16 million stadium but I would suspect it'd be funded through a separate entity and owned by the owners of Sale as this would protect the stadium from any issues Sale may run into further down the line. I also assume that the debt is debt owed to the owners. I think I read the Newcastle RU own their owner something like £30 million... it seems insane to me that all these RY owners are pulling so much into the clubs, it isn't a sustainable competition, but that's off-topic. For now, I'm thankful we're not going to ML. We have signed players to new contracts over the next 3-4 season which is a good sign. The worrying part is obviously the possible sale to Sale but surely there is much more clarity to come on the subject. It's my hope, as I mentioned in a previous post, that the stadium remains owned by the council and is made to work for the people of Salford and the clubs of Salford, Proper management will make it profitable because so far nothing has really been done. I agree with this post BDB both Salford and Sharks fans will want to know what is happening ASAP. To your point proper management and a clear vision will make a massive difference to the stadiums potential revenue streams. As for the Clubs Board and Paul King comments can we setup a separate thread please, this is about our future at the Salford Community Stadium, the one we all campaigned to remain at. |
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Post by SalfordSlim on Mar 8, 2023 12:21:40 GMT
If the council keep the stadium there are some pretty straightforward options which could be put forward to SRLFC to get them to be a viable asset for both the stadium and the city as a whole.
Why don't the council give Salford a 5 year "trial" as main tenants.
Give the club full control over running the stadium and it's assets and see what income they can generate to cover their own operating costs and also to turn over a profit and to start paying back some of the cost of the stadium purchase. The COSCO have done sweet FA to maximise it's assets and I'm sure Bleasey & PK could do a better job given the chance!
Conferencing/banqueting - Every time I visit the AJ to pick up tickets the car park is full!
Car Parking
Match day revenue - ticket sales/corporate/food & drink
Lease of rental units - gym/driving school
4G pitch hire
Events - Funfairs/boxing events/concerts etc. These would generate huge amounts of cash. 15k/20k crowds would easily be achievable. Look at the £££ Lancashire Cricket make from their annual concerts which effectively keeps the club afloat.
As for the "taxpayers money shouldn't be spent supporting the club". For years our taxes have funded arts projects/museums etc etc which are seen as assets to the city. None of them are my cup of tea but to some people they are. I bet those who whinge about Salford receiving handouts are more than happy for the money to be spent on other schemes that they're interested in.
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Post by lhred on Mar 8, 2023 12:27:34 GMT
Trust me one of bleases jobs is to attract monies in along with the likes of king as well,he ibis part of that area as for personal if you stop attacking and bitching about the likes of Paul king which is personal then I will stop
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Post by worsleyreddevil on Mar 8, 2023 13:35:02 GMT
If the council keep the stadium there are some pretty straightforward options which could be put forward to SRLFC to get them to be a viable asset for both the stadium and the city as a whole. Why don't the council give Salford a 5 year "trial" as main tenants. Give the club full control over running the stadium and it's assets and see what income they can generate to cover their own operating costs and also to turn over a profit and to start paying back some of the cost of the stadium purchase. The COSCO have done sweet FA to maximise it's assets and I'm sure Bleasey & PK could do a better job given the chance! Conferencing/banqueting - Every time I visit the AJ to pick up tickets the car park is full! Car Parking Match day revenue - ticket sales/corporate/food & drink Lease of rental units - gym/driving school 4G pitch hire Events - Funfairs/boxing events/concerts etc. These would generate huge amounts of cash. 15k/20k crowds would easily be achievable. Look at the £££ Lancashire Cricket make from their annual concerts which effectively keeps the club afloat. As for the "taxpayers money shouldn't be spent supporting the club". For years our takes have funded arts projects/museums etc etc which are seen as assets to the city. None of them are my cup of tea but to some people they are. I bet those who whinge about Salford receiving handouts are more than happy for the money to be spent on other schemes that they're interested in. Some good ideas in this post SS. |
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Post by SalfordSlim on Mar 8, 2023 14:10:45 GMT
If the council keep the stadium there are some pretty straightforward options which could be put forward to SRLFC to get them to be a viable asset for both the stadium and the city as a whole. Why don't the council give Salford a 5 year "trial" as main tenants. Give the club full control over running the stadium and it's assets and see what income they can generate to cover their own operating costs and also to turn over a profit and to start paying back some of the cost of the stadium purchase. The COSCO have done sweet FA to maximise it's assets and I'm sure Bleasey & PK could do a better job given the chance! Conferencing/banqueting - Every time I visit the AJ to pick up tickets the car park is full! Car Parking Match day revenue - ticket sales/corporate/food & drink Lease of rental units - gym/driving school 4G pitch hire Events - Funfairs/boxing events/concerts etc. These would generate huge amounts of cash. 15k/20k crowds would easily be achievable. Look at the £££ Lancashire Cricket make from their annual concerts which effectively keeps the club afloat. As for the "taxpayers money shouldn't be spent supporting the club". For years our takes have funded arts projects/museums etc etc which are seen as assets to the city. None of them are my cup of tea but to some people they are. I bet those who whinge about Salford receiving handouts are more than happy for the money to be spent on other schemes that they're interested in. Some good ideas in this post SS. The thing is it really isn't rocket science! I'm sure someone who is in business will put me straight here but surely it's a matter of; 1) "How much does the stadium cost to run annually?" and 2) "How much is currently being raised to cover that amount?" If there's a shortfall between 1 & 2 (which there clearly is) it's not difficult to see why as no-one is utilising it fully. There's absolutely no reason why you can't have events on 12 months a year, especially with the surrounding land that hadn't been developed yet. |
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Post by dixon13 on Mar 8, 2023 15:43:09 GMT
Leigh's ground was a community entity from the start,Barton wasn't it seems it was thrown together at the last minute so we would have somewhere to play,a deal between the council and Peel.people have office space their as it is I think Swinton have an office at the site.
Anybody having ago at the people running the club or anyone doing voluntary work are bang out of order in my opinion
We should all be focusing on what really matters at the moment, the team.And wait until we know something definite.
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Post by mauricethered on Mar 8, 2023 17:05:47 GMT
Leigh's ground was a community entity from the start,Barton wasn't it seems it was thrown together at the last minute so we would have somewhere to play,a deal between the council and Peel.people have office space their as it is I think Swinton have an office at the site. Anybody having ago at the people running the club or anyone doing voluntary work are bang out of order in my opinion We should all be focusing on what really matters at the moment, the team.And wait until we know something definite. Points well made Dixon 13, we do not have any certainty at the present time. Any views on the clubs board positive or negative need to be on a different thread. This is about our stadium outcome and future. |
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