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Post by worsleyreddevil on Aug 12, 2022 15:12:38 GMT
Agree MTR I just don’t understand the Club and surely the Supporters Trust is there to enhance things like this Possibly Option 1 is their preferred stance as we saw in the mock no option vote. ML 😩 Has Andy Burnham been sent the petition; think he’s an ex President of the RL We have on numerous occasions as a Supporters Trust posted about the stadium situation including the petition so I'm not sure where you're getting that opinion from. I would know because I run the social media pages. I've had a pretty rocky last few weeks with my head being all over the place as it is, so I'll be honest and say this has been far down on my list of priorities, but I will tweet again later today about the petition and the stadium so you can see that the Supporters Trust are doing things... The sad reality is the petition though will do very little to the council, they will take whatever bigger offer is on the table. Thanks for the feedback LoyalReds on pushing the comms out around the petition it is appreciated. I am not certain it is biggest offer takes all for the AJ Bell, there must be some merit in the Gerrard bid given the council's lack of communication and Sale going quiet for now - 9 Months ago this sounded like a done deal. One can only assume that the Gerrard bid will benefit the community of Salford more based on his high level vision, but this has to play out and the community benefit has to be considered by the council as a compelling factor in any decision. |
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Post by loyalreds on Aug 12, 2022 15:26:53 GMT
We have on numerous occasions as a Supporters Trust posted about the stadium situation including the petition so I'm not sure where you're getting that opinion from. I would know because I run the social media pages. I've had a pretty rocky last few weeks with my head being all over the place as it is, so I'll be honest and say this has been far down on my list of priorities, but I will tweet again later today about the petition and the stadium so you can see that the Supporters Trust are doing things... The sad reality is the petition though will do very little to the council, they will take whatever bigger offer is on the table. Thanks for the feedback LoyalReds on pushing the comms out around the petition it is appreciated. I am not certain it is biggest offer takes all for the AJ Bell, there must be some merit in the Gerrard bid given the council's lack of communication and Sale going quiet for now - 9 Months ago this sounded like a done deal. One can only assume that the Gerrard bid will benefit the community of Salford more based on his high level vision, but this has to play out and the community benefit has to be considered by the council as a compelling factor in any decision. Hopefully you are correct, I personally think Salford City would pull out of the move to the AJ Bell if they don't get promoted this season as it is. |
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Post by MossleyRed on Aug 12, 2022 19:26:25 GMT
Going off the Gerrard interview other week on Radio Manc...he wants the stadium to put events, gigs, horse of the year shows on. Zero interest in rugby league let alone us. Didn't sound too switched on, to say the least. Suggested us, Swimton, Sale & City all playing there.
No idea what the answer is but if you think he's a knight in shining armour you're just as balmy as he is
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Post by mauricethered on Aug 13, 2022 10:04:15 GMT
I'd rather take a chance with Gerrard rather than see our Cities Stadium sold to Sale Sharks.
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Post by JJR on Aug 13, 2022 10:15:39 GMT
Going off the Gerrard interview other week on Radio Manc...he wants the stadium to put events, gigs, horse of the year shows on. Zero interest in rugby league let alone us. Didn't sound too switched on, to say the least. Suggested us, Swimton, Sale & City all playing there. No idea what the answer is but if you think he's a knight in shining armour you're just as balmy as he is I’m sure nobody thinks he’s a ‘knight in shining armour’ but MR he’s having a go; you seem to be resigned to all the negatives…Leigh just down the road for you😉 |
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Post by JJR on Aug 13, 2022 10:20:23 GMT
I know a lot of supporters are v keen interested and bullish (at least it’s an opportunity) . At least somebody is having a go The Club has merely survived since Marwan and now apparently we’re v short of money again; this is not a negative statement but it’s the Boards job to raise that money, not wait for handouts, like the £4m supposedly off the Council to end up in a backwater with no potential. And as a ratepayer I don’t want 2x£4m as handouts from the Council. If the Board can’t raise money bring people onto the Board who can…our much heralded Commercial guru seems to have disappeared as well I am really shocked that the Club, Supporters Trust, maybe Foundation are just sitting on their hands possibly hoping for failure. Sorry for me failure is ML, as Salford City is showing with the lowest average crowd in League 2; ~2700 Maybe a bit of a rant but come on guys it’s a Community Club not a private members club…support the Community aspects of this Stadium Don't you realise that the majority of the people who do the work at Salford are either volunteers or paid very little. Instead of coming on here and complaining and ranting get off your @rse and do something. There's being passionate and there's being a moaner and you are in the latter bracket. PR a couple of us a few years ago worked with Bleasy to raise £17k in 10 days in order to get Lussick, not totally with the support of the then Board. We tried to help in many other ways…..but… |
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Post by salfordkeys on Aug 14, 2022 15:35:56 GMT
Sorry if this has already been answered but what happens now with the petition? Its not like there is a debate in House of Commons like other petitions?
Also, what are we asking the Council to do? Saying it was built for the Club doesnt mean they have to subsidise it forever?
On the other hand if every person who signed (or even half of them) bought a season ticket every year we wouldnt be in this position.
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Post by russ on Aug 14, 2022 18:04:48 GMT
Sorry if this has already been answered but what happens now with the petition? Its not like there is a debate in House of Commons like other petitions? Also, what are we asking the Council to do? Saying it was built for the Club doesnt mean they have to subsidise it forever? On the other hand if every person who signed (or even half of them) bought a season ticket every year we wouldnt be in this position. It wasn't the level of petition to involve MPs in the Commons you need far more signatures for that.
No they can't subsidise forever but they've not made enough use of the facility, and we're asking the council not to be the instrument of the club's demise.
Alot of people who signed it were not SRD fans or even RL supporters so the season ticket idea doesn't have alot of traction I'm afraid.
We are between the rock and the hard place.
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Post by mauricethered on Aug 14, 2022 18:41:57 GMT
Russ is correct it is 100k Signatures to debate in UK Parliament. At 10k signatures it is a response from UK government or Salford City Council. 10K Signatures is decent in terms of petition numbers and forces our MP's to ask Salford CC to be accountable to the community in any final outcomes regarding the AJ Bell. They sell to Sale they turn their back on the community of Salford never mind our club.
I'd also point out the work the Foundation do with the Schools in Salford, never mind the fact the stadium accessibility needs expanding at the AJ Bell for people with disabilities, god help us if we went to Moor Lane for adequate accessibility. We either have a community stadium for the good of Salford or nothing at all - the Sale/FC bid benefits 2,000 Salford FC fans that's it.
I acknowledge I can do very little in terms of the commercial deal for the stadium, be it sold to Sale/FC or Gerrard, what I can do is ask that the council does right by our local communities hence the emails and activity building on the petition. I guess this situation is either a half empty or half full glass depends on your own perspective and beliefs.
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Post by JJR on Aug 14, 2022 21:14:38 GMT
Totally agree MTR, a Community Stadium, developed further and used as a focus for the community. I just hope everyone shows their hand and gets behind it because ML. Because if we lose this one, even as a City, we’re unlikely to get another
I don’t know Seb Gerrard but I admire people who are willing to have a go, no matter what the odds, for the benefit of the community…and we are a Community Club, whatever that means.
Salford FC can’t get out of ML quick enough even with a 2000 ave crowd; lots of people I know have been, but just a couple of times, and of the rugby fans I know, nobody wants it. And the reported £4m will disappear in no time. Wonder what the gurus developing the long term strat plan for RL think of it😩
If we lose this stadium, even as a city, we’re v unlikely to get another and York, Leigh, Widnes Eric all have them.
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Post by worsleyreddevil on Aug 16, 2022 12:09:44 GMT
Fair points JJR all the fans can do now is get behind our club/community - we need the AJ Bell stadium and a growth mindset as our team might just surprise a few next year.
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Post by JJR on Aug 16, 2022 19:08:41 GMT
WR it’s not just about Salford RL, this is a Community asset. The vast majority of cities have one as a focus for sport and all its spin offs.
To me it could be another Salford Quays, a major asset for the City if developed fully and properly.
Additionally if Sale get it then spread the RU word locally and regionally via the schools, local clubs and the Stadium, then folk might sit up and see some of the value of a focus which is lost to RL, because it’ll probably lead to the demise of RL in Salford. Do not underestimate the developmental power of RU.
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Post by salfordkeys on Aug 16, 2022 21:08:14 GMT
Understand the idea of the community asset but the community, being frank, doesnt view it in the same way and hasnt attended in large numbers.
I'm not sure what the plan would be to make it self sufficient and who would bankroll it? Are there any examples of UK Sports Clubs/stadiums that we could learn from?
Widnes/Bradford both went bust with institutional landlords and Coventry was a disaster.
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Post by worsleyreddevil on Aug 17, 2022 6:59:20 GMT
Understand the idea of the community asset but the community, being frank, doesnt view it in the same way and hasnt attended in large numbers. I'm not sure what the plan would be to make it self sufficient and who would bankroll it? Are there any examples of UK Sports Clubs/stadiums that we could learn from? Widnes/Bradford both went bust with institutional landlords and Coventry was a disaster. That is a very good point SK, on a blue print for a community stadium and lessons learned. Although it is probably a less likely option than a purchase by either Sale/FC or Gerrard and Co. One thing is for sure the AJ Bell offers Salford Rugby much more than Moor Lane which will see the club go backwards given its limitations and the 'big if' of the stadium being fit for Super League. Our club uses all facilities at the AJ Bell stadium, training field, gym, meeting rooms as well as the pitch, it is of massive importance, Sale are fortunate enough to have their training ground. A community stadium would benefit Salford immensely but has to be sustainable. |
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Post by JJR on Aug 17, 2022 7:06:09 GMT
Lots of good and not so good examples around SK if you research them; just down the road a little village called Leigh seem to be doing ok with their stadium
For us I feel it should be a focus for sports as well as a range of events and we have 3 teams to go in straight away. After all we are a City and look at we’ve done with our old decrepit dock land. We have to think outside the just RL box for the Stadium; Lancs CCC have good live events, a hotel, good conference facilities to keep their ground going
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