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Post by JJR on Oct 27, 2022 17:35:44 GMT
The Club doesn’t need to have a ‘pop’ at the Council.
It needs to make some positive statements about IMG and our predicament (but I’ve heard they’re still negotiating about ML)
Presumably waiting for ‘an I told you so moment’. I really can’t stand this apparent lack of ambition…can’t they see that IMG is all about ambitious clubs.. ours doesn’t even communicate with its Community supporters. Remember apparently the Community owns the Club but has no say in it; although there was a Hobsons Choice Poll about ML🤣
Not a Beaumont fan but he certainly invests and the Club certainly has massive ambition and determination; and brilliant at PR. Good luck to them.
If it ends up at ML it’s the end for all the people I know watching the team; our Board can wallow in failure. The days of ‘ the fans don’t support us in the required numbers’ and ‘everybody has an investor but us’, ‘we’ve tried for benefactors’ is wearing a bit thin…it’s the Boards job to sort it. How long since Marwan
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Post by salfordkeys on Oct 27, 2022 18:58:42 GMT
Not sure how much ambition you can have with zilch cash and a poor level of support.
Club can have 100 supporters on the board all having the chance to come up with miracle master plans but it still needs external investment in reality.
Just dont think there is interest in the sport generally at that level and if any of the fan benefactors left super league clubs they'd nearly all struggle.
But you never know, Club has overachieved massively post MK and it may impress someone somewhere someday.
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Post by lhred on Oct 27, 2022 19:01:58 GMT
Always there to have a pop jjr, what a surprise!beaumont the same owner who threw them under the bus and refused to pay players when they were being relegated,who threatens fans on twitter,yeah great owner!as for our board we dnt have enough fans ,we dnt have a benefactor and they have tried and tried to get income in to support the club.rugby dsnt make money so unless your mad like Beaumont or marwan no one wants to know,the club have tried so hard but again sat behind a keyboard is so much easier!
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Post by mauricethered on Oct 27, 2022 19:40:35 GMT
To be fair the club try hard commercially and are getting their act together - our teams has also overachieved on the pitch, last season's attendances have grown and if we keep playing well people will watch our club. The challenge is that we do not have a benefactor.
The issue of the stadium is one out of the club's control - the council and peel decide the facilities fate. What the club can and must do is state a preference, get behind a bid, Moor Lane is a hole, it's the abyss a Championship ground. Say No to it the games going in another direction. The fans want Gerrards Bid to come off.
Not sure anyone's if anyone has seen the brilliant social impact report the club released this summarised the clubs value to the local community Salford Council must take note. The challenge as I see it is that the council don't really care what the outcome is - they pay lip service to 10,800 people who have signed a petition, they claim the club has engaged fans? When has this happened since Seb Gerrard has shown interest? When do our Council speak to their taxpayers on this matter as a collective - Never that's the answer.
Sale offer nothing to the city of Salford - Union is in financial meltdown, FC have less than 2,000 fans - still bet the council chiefs enjoyed meeting Gary Neville at the Labour conference.
A decision on the AJ Bell sale should be for the benefit of the community and leverage data points such as our impact report - tangible proof that we've delivered social inclusion in Salford, sadly we will probably have to rely on Seb's bid being higher.
Credit to those and the Supporters Trust who are fighting for the best outcome.
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Post by JJR on Oct 27, 2022 19:44:57 GMT
Not a pop Lhred, more a position statement
With this attitude we will be in League 1. That’s what IMG is all about…sorting the wheat from the chaff…and you seem to agree we’ll be chaff at ML
The responsibility of any Board at any level is to develop the business. It’s their job to increase crowds, raise the income etc…that’s what I can’t understand why they’re not forcibly backing somebody who’s trying to secure our Stadium and ultimately our Club. Not a peep. I wouldn’t mind if they came out in favour of ML as they’ve indicated is their preferred position but nothing.
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Post by mauricethered on Oct 27, 2022 19:52:13 GMT
Honestly JJR I'd spend what time we have left before a decision is made focussing efforts on the council in terms of our fan's opinion. Ultimately, we will find out what the decision criteria was based on when a deal either way is done.
I do agree on the clubs Switzerland position though it doesn't help anyone even those making a decision - can only assume this dialogue is behind closed doors.
One thing is certain a modern Rugby League experience does not exist at Moor Lane, certainly not for me and my family.
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Post by salfordkeys on Oct 27, 2022 19:58:21 GMT
On the subject of the Gerrard bid that the ST are 'supporting', is there any detail on what investment will be made to the Club?
Surely he should formalise something with the Club which would then have both their backing and that of the ST. This would be more impactful than the apparent cloak and dagger approach..All seems very fragmented which is very odd given we all want the same thing. Maybe a fans forum should be called for and Mr G can sell his dream and/or the Club can explain whats happening??
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Post by russ on Oct 27, 2022 20:00:54 GMT
I come on here to escape just how depressing the world is ........
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Post by JJR on Oct 27, 2022 20:02:54 GMT
I agree MtR the coaches and the playing staff are fantastic. Rowley, Haggerty, Orr, Blease and the players with the lowest funds in SL and Watson before them have been brilliant. Just think what they’d achieve if we had the cash.
But remember the £1M game, then when we were on our knees when Marwan paid for Hastings to save us and the Supporters Trust raised money for Lussick, how Marshall would have put us down but for a poor Leigh side coming up to fulfil Toronto’s spot. We can’t just survive for ever with no money and once we’re down IMG won’t bring* us back without a stadium. Last year in our injury run we couldn’t afford loan players, except Hellewell, but we got through it with the ruggedness of the coaches. Our spine held up all year and we achieved brilliantly. But without money life will catch us up and at ML, who really wants to go there…why does Neville not want to stay…why does Salford City only get an svarage of 2000 with season tickets at giveaway prices..why ever would anybody consider it and not visibly support an alternative…beyond me mate.
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Post by JJR on Oct 27, 2022 20:04:09 GMT
Russ come on we’ve not lost the AJ yet…that’s depressing if we do
Keep positive mate
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Post by JJR on Oct 27, 2022 20:17:33 GMT
SK in negotiations and in competition for something you generally can’t go public with your ideas and we’ve not heard a peep from Sale or their major allies Peel Holdings. That combination really worries me because Peel have money and appear to favour the massively indebted Sale.
From what I’ve read Gerrard will takeover the Club if he gets the Stadium and who would want it if it went to ML, never mind who would want to go to ML.Not fully sure of the legal position of ownership…a Community Club given by Marwan but somehow Messrs Rosler and King might have the shares. Something that needs clarification. If you remember we had a number of directors elected by Marwan but then suddenly one, Andy Rosler had complete control, and the others disappeared into oblivion; so a confusing state for a Community Club. As it’s been since Marwan left, with now even less communication.
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Post by SalfordSlim on Oct 27, 2022 22:40:58 GMT
Russ come on we’ve not lost the AJ yet…that’s depressing if we do Keep positive mate The irony in this post is staggering.😂 |
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Post by earlybath on Oct 28, 2022 5:44:11 GMT
One thing is certain a modern Rugby League experience does not exist at Moor Lane, certainly not for me and my family. And Me & My Family too Maurice. |
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Post by JJR on Oct 28, 2022 7:14:08 GMT
One thing is certain a modern Rugby League experience does not exist at Moor Lane, certainly not for me and my family. And Me & My Family too Maurice. I think lots of us are agreed on this. Back to the days of 3000 gates or maybe even fall to Salford FC ave of 2000?? This is what comes of deciding what to do and then having a poll to validate your decision, rather than finding out what supporters really want. Hope the Board in pushing ML realise what journey they’re taking our, at the moment, great Club on. |
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Post by worsleyreddevil on Oct 28, 2022 8:36:03 GMT
We all know the poll 12 plus months ago was bullshit, it was a one choice poll, Seb has come along and chucked a grenade in - the plans as was, is no longer viable based on future IMG criteria and the minimum standards supporters expect. The issue for me here is that the club need to stand up and say to the council the positions changed, we, our fans support Gerrard and his community stadium vision.
This is solely making a preference known on the stadium much like Shirley did with the open letter - if the Council/Peel go against Gerrards bid then that's their decision but at least have a preference for your future fate Salford.
One thing's for sure looking back over this thread a lot of fans have done their best to inform the council what the Club and Community of Salford want from this situation, as has been stated Sale bring very little to our City.
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