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Post by dixon13 on Oct 14, 2019 10:55:34 GMT
I am speaking as someone who as to sit.I have stood in the shed at the Willows for many years also at OT and Main Rd when their was 60.000 in the ground.Yes we probably all like to stand. We all know why seating was brought in.And we all know what the law is. I think they should now look at safe standing areas again.I think their is less consideration for others now a days in general.I have even seen adults stood up and the child stood along side not seeing anything.
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Post by lemmy on Oct 14, 2019 11:27:46 GMT
There's not a whole lot I can add on what's already been said, but here's a few thoughts: - Massive effort from us, I don't think there was a whole lot more we could have done. And fair play to Saints, top class team and deserved it in the end. The ref was garbage, but even if we had say scored another 3 tries or whatever, I always felt Saints could pull something special out of the bag at any given moment. - Great turnout in the Salford end. - The whole thing was a bit surreal overall. It's a day I'll never forget for sure. Just picking up on "Great turnout in the Salford end" If we were to get back to O. T. next year, I don't think as many Salford fans will go, due to the standing during the game. Where I was I saw older people having to keep sitting down, lots of children and smaller people unable to see. It could also be a turn off, for getting a season ticket. They may think that happens at the aj bell My "great turnout" comment was more aimed at the number of Salford fans, rather than their behaviour or standing habits. Our level of support is often the source of ridicule from fans of other clubs, so it was nice to see so many there. I think we at least matched the number of Saints supporters in their end. I agree with everything else said regarding standing though. We've all been waiting for a final for a long time, and I'm gutted for anyone who had their game ruined by persistent standing, or any of the idiots in attendance. If/when we get to another major final, I think I'll be opting for a more expensive seat along the side somewhere to hopefully avoid any idiots - I thought we might've been alright with seats to one side in E234, but unfortunately it wasn't the case. For the record though, I am all for safe standing being introduced into all-seater stadiums. It's improves the atmosphere, gives people the choice, and is proven from a safety perspective, the Bundesliga being the prime example (although tickets in standing areas tend to be like gold dust). |
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Post by osrd on Oct 14, 2019 11:55:23 GMT
My take on Old Trafford and what was a fantastic match watched by big followings from both Salford and Saints.
How Old Trafford can get away with how they stewarded the match is beyond belief in my opinion and we were in the East Stand E234 and the steward near us tried his best but could not control the people standing up from well before the game started to well after it finished.
I am at an age now where after standing for more years than I care to remember at the Willows I moved to seats in the North Stand then to the Best Stand and I am now in the West Stand at the AJ Bell so I can understand all the arguments for standing areas etc, we all know there are two of areas at theAJ Bell and if anyone stands up at the AJBell we politely ask them to sit down and consider the other fans who want to sit.
On Saturday around us it was a shambles due to people standing up, smoking(not sure what is was),and drinking beer etc despite notices all around telling, not asking people not to do it.
Finally the seats were possibly the worst that I have sat in, the depth of the steps, terracing etc were excessively deep and being sat in the end seats we could see people of all shapes and sizes having difficulty going up and down to their seats and toilets etc.
The view could have been an excellent but due to people standing it was ruined and I saw several people old and young who struggled all through to see what was going on.
I will however never forget the day, the team, the fans were all fantastic, I even forgive the moron whoever it was for throwing a beer over us all, anyone who pays £5.50 for a beer just throw it away should stop at home though.
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Post by bonitared on Oct 14, 2019 11:58:01 GMT
I can see both sides of the story here and I feel everyone's pain. I've always been a stander where it's allowed. I'm still young enough and mobile enough (just about😁) to be able to stand during a game and standing is more conducive to creating an atmosphere, dancing around like a bell-end when you score etc etc. You just can't do that when sat down. I've tried sitting in West/East stand at the AJ Bell but I just find myself standing up every time I get excited (oo er matron!) and this does annoy people after a while who don't watch the sport the same way or who need to sit for physical reasons etc. I fully understand that a lot of people like to/have to sit for a variety of reasons and all-seater stadiums are generally policed so people are forced to sit through the match. That blatantly wasn't the case on Saturday (at a Utd home game you get thrown out for persistent standing as they police it quite strictly). I just think the authorities seriously need to consider their stance on all-seater stadiums. They kill the atmosphere completely and I genuinely believe re-introducing standing isn't going to cause horrific events like Hillsborough. Sorry but there isn’t a ‘both sides of the story’ debate. Its an all seater stadium. Most people jump up when there’s a try going in,or whatever. Other than that then the stewards should have policed the situation,starting at the front and kicked out anyone who had no regard for the elderly,infirm or children. If the authorities see fit to introduce safe standing areas then that’s their prerogative. Feelings run high from those badly affected on Saturday |
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Post by chief on Oct 14, 2019 12:45:51 GMT
After similar issues at the Wigan game, I promised my grandson I would get the best tickets for the final. Paid £85 per ticket, no discount for a 10 year old. Went for row 1 to guarantee seeing everything from South 125 upper just to discover that "upper" was so low, we were about 12 foot above pitch level. Scandalous pricing.
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Post by SalfordSlim on Oct 14, 2019 14:16:28 GMT
I can see both sides of the story here and I feel everyone's pain. I've always been a stander where it's allowed. I'm still young enough and mobile enough (just about😁) to be able to stand during a game and standing is more conducive to creating an atmosphere, dancing around like a bell-end when you score etc etc. You just can't do that when sat down. I've tried sitting in West/East stand at the AJ Bell but I just find myself standing up every time I get excited (oo er matron!) and this does annoy people after a while who don't watch the sport the same way or who need to sit for physical reasons etc. I fully understand that a lot of people like to/have to sit for a variety of reasons and all-seater stadiums are generally policed so people are forced to sit through the match. That blatantly wasn't the case on Saturday (at a Utd home game you get thrown out for persistent standing as they police it quite strictly). I just think the authorities seriously need to consider their stance on all-seater stadiums. They kill the atmosphere completely and I genuinely believe re-introducing standing isn't going to cause horrific events like Hillsborough. Sorry but there isn’t a ‘both sides of the story’ debate. Its an all seater stadium. Most people jump up when there’s a try going in,or whatever. Other than that then the stewards should have policed the situation,starting at the front and kicked out anyone who had no regard for the elderly,infirm or children. If the authorities see fit to introduce safe standing areas then that’s their prerogative. Feelings run high from those badly affected on Saturday Don't want to start an argument on this BR. All-seater stadiums are soulless and I'm not sure how you can expect an atmosphere when everyone is sat down. Saturday night highlighted a flaw in modern stadia and as Salford RL fans we've never had to experience this before. I'm really sorry for those who had their days ruined I really am. If you go to every Salford away game most people stand. Saturday was different because we had a load of lapsed fans/newbies/glory-hunters (delete as required!) and whilst you can get away with standing in an away end at a league match which may be 25% full (those that like to sit just generally gravitate to the empty areas) being in an end jam packed was always going to cause issues. If no one was allowed to stand on Saturday the atmosphere would've been dreadful. The sporting authorities have brought this on themselves. Maybe they should have foreseen the issues and allocated family stands etc. I honestly don't know. |
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Post by SalfordSlim on Oct 14, 2019 14:25:37 GMT
Apologies if I sound like a tw@t btw. I'm genuinely not trying to be.
The atmosphere makes a massive difference to me at games and I'm sure a lot of people like myself have been brought up on the terraces at either Salford, Utd or City etc.
When you get the choice at away games, the vast majority tend to buy terracing tickets and it's not just to save a few quid.
If I was forced to sit at every game/ground I'd struggle tbh and it would massively ruin the experience for me.
Anyway, sorry if I've upset anyone on here and if this discussion takes over the entire thread. Sad that we're not able to focus on what was a brilliant night for the club because a lot of people had the experience ruined.
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Post by steveh on Oct 14, 2019 14:43:15 GMT
My impression of OT is that all MU fans must be midgets as I couldn't actually sit down with any degree of comfort as my legs couldn't fit in the gap between my seat and the seat in front!
I went to the Grand Final last year and most people in the North stand were sat down all match but this year I was in the East Stand and stood up because everyone stood up at the kick-off. However, as soon as people in front of me sat down and I could see the pitch I did too, even though others around me stayed standing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2019 14:49:31 GMT
I think it’s an interesting discussion and I’m right in the middle to be honest. At 90% of home games I sit at the side mainly for a better view but at away games I’ll lump in behind the posts with everyone to enjoy the atmosphere. The games at Wigan where my bum hardly touched the seat were two of the most enjoyable I’ve ever been to.
At OT I was with my dad and a couple of other older fans so we sat in the north stand - I did envy the atmosphere behind the sticks and was told off by my dad a couple of times for bouncing up! I had a cracking view of the game though.
They definitely should make it clearer that ‘family areas’ are at the sides of the pitch and price the tickets so that it doesn’t force people behind the posts.
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Post by bonitared on Oct 14, 2019 16:19:31 GMT
I’m happy to let this lie,now, as all the comments re preferences don’t take into account the match being ruined for many people.
Enough said from me.
How great was it,though,to be at OT for the Grand Final supporting Salford,not words I thought I’d ever see in the same sentence !
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Post by scottmac58 on Oct 14, 2019 19:57:18 GMT
Think some of the Stewards thought it was a united match. Bought my 5 year old a flag took 5 steps and they made him take the stick out! Only to get in the ground and thousands are waving flags!! Anyway didn’t ruin his day as a Salford fan gave him his scarf as we were walking out, a saints fan gave him a horn (went in bin when we got home ha) and after the game I explained to the guys who sold the flag and they gave him another!! That’s what being a rugby fan is all about and now my sons hooked!
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Post by devilsince73 on Oct 14, 2019 21:06:14 GMT
We were in E332 row 3. Had to stand for the full game as people
On rows 1 and 2 were standing.
Didn’t bother me, but my Dad who is 75 struggled a bit.
Stand at the back etc fair enough, but no need to stand up at the front.
Too many people for the stewards to deal with.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2019 21:34:02 GMT
I was surprised everyone stood up. Wasn't a problem for me but obviously was for others. If it was unreserved seating it probably wouldn't have been a problem as the standers would've gone towards the back and people who wanted sit towards the front like at Wigan. Would be surprised if it put anyone off attending Salford at the AJ Bell as there is plenty of room for both.
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