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Post by JJR on Mar 31, 2019 19:53:52 GMT
Just seen the video, the tackling and covering was dire, sadly. But all started with a silly dropped ball in front of the sticks as at Cas. The Hampshire try was awful and penalty count towards the end of sets should not happen.
Still we're in there and I'm sure Watto knows the defensive issues and disciplinary problems. As he said we're not getting hammered but we have to tackle well early on.
Have a look at the Wigan video. They had a very inexperienced pack which tackled Catalan out of the game and the Wigan backs, wow...even Sammutt looked good. Mind you Smith for Catalan about 5 years past his sell by date.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 20:21:22 GMT
Sorry but against juggernauts like PP and Fafita you have to tackle low, can't even begin to work out how many hand offs there big forwards got in. Take our leading try scorer off, switch Chamberlain to #1 just to accommodate Inu was a shock. Trying to take them on up the middle of the park was beyond foolish. All in all it was a shockingly inept performance and on some level it lies with the coaching staff for the lack of educated tactics. MR that assessment could upset some people. But am I wrong? I think normal folks will see what I said is pretty much Bob on.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 20:45:12 GMT
Comedy moment of the day.
Walking into a pub in Leeds and asking did the clocks change last night or did you go back a few years 😂
Oh and that phucking stupid Fafita brothers mullet, how can twins separated by half the planet still manage to find a barber willing to make them look like identikit tw@s.
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Post by alaura on Mar 31, 2019 21:40:41 GMT
We seem to do our best to throw games away due to poor discipline, terrible kicking on last play. The only way we could have won today was to run their huge pack around but we failed miserably to do this. Rob Lui looks a shadow of his former self, lacking pace and invention. We desperately need more pace at stand off and need a hooker to come on who has pace and can run from acting half back when teams are tiring. Hopefully have a few back for next week and maybe try Niald at stand off .
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Post by dixon13 on Mar 31, 2019 22:32:47 GMT
MR that assessment could upset some people. But am I wrong? I think normal folks will see what I said is pretty much Bob on. I think you are spot on.You were critical of some coaching issues from this afternoon.In another post someone was none plussed about options taken on the last tackle.Now the coach is certainly to blame for the coaching issues you mention his he responsible for the options at the last tackle.We don't know that,but you would think that's decided on the field We took a few wrong options against Wigan we are saying these things quite a lot lately.MR you can only say it how you see it.
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Post by bigfish on Mar 31, 2019 22:56:42 GMT
Couldn’t make it due to work but just watched highlights. Some brilliant attacking play by the looks of it (great kick on the run by Olpherts) but some shocking defence, terribly soft tries to give away. We aren’t away and we’ll score points against most teams, let’s hope we can fix the D up next week and get back on track
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 10:39:25 GMT
I like Watson but consistency is obviously a problem and has been for a few seasons (decades!). Possible explanations are; either Watson struggles to fully motivate everyone week in week out or the players are just not that good and it is impossible for Watson to raise their level every single week.
I’m not involved enough to know the answer but would imagine it is more the latter given how our squad looks on paper. We expect to see the Catalans away performance every week but is that realistic? Probably not.
Agree though that we need a big performance this week, especially from Lui. We turned around our form at this fixture last year and I’d hope for the same here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 11:02:19 GMT
I like Watson but consistency is obviously a problem and has been for a few seasons (decades!). Possible explanations are; either Watson struggles to fully motivate everyone week in week out or the players are just not that good and it is impossible for Watson to raise their level every single week. I’m not involved enough to know the answer but would imagine it is more the latter given how our squad looks on paper. We expect to see the Catalans away performance every week but is that realistic? Probably not. Agree though that we need a big performance this week, especially from Lui. We turned around our form at this fixture last year and I’d hope for the same here. Was saying to a friend yesterday that Lui can consider himself the luckiest member of the squad as if we had an adequate replacement he would have been dropped by now, seems to be way below the fitness levels we've seen from him in previous seasons.
Can't see how this weekend that Junior doesn't come back in in if fully fit or how Welham keeps his spot, Lawton too looked pretty ineffective yesterday so maybe bring back BB.
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Post by redwolf on Apr 1, 2019 11:34:21 GMT
when did Inu come on and how did he play?
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Post by reddevil89 on Apr 1, 2019 12:07:54 GMT
Inu dropped ball with his first touch if I remember rightly
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 1, 2019 13:20:35 GMT
I like Watson but consistency is obviously a problem and has been for a few seasons (decades!). Possible explanations are; either Watson struggles to fully motivate everyone week in week out or the players are just not that good and it is impossible for Watson to raise their level every single week. I’m not involved enough to know the answer but would imagine it is more the latter given how our squad looks on paper. We expect to see the Catalans away performance every week but is that realistic? Probably not. Agree though that we need a big performance this week, especially from Lui. We turned around our form at this fixture last year and I’d hope for the same here. [br Some of the natives will not like this myself MR and your good self being critical.The question I ask you,do you think any other coach could do any better with this squad,I am not sure. United got rid of the so called special one.The so called super sub is certainly doing better with same players. I know this will be viewed as blasphemy by some on here. I will give an instance against Wigan after their last try at the kick of we just booted the ball back to them,when we needed the ball twice in the last minutes when we did get the ball Hastings on the last tackle just put it in touch resulted in them feeding the scrum.If that happened in am amateur game you would say are brain dead,we need the ball.So his it Watto or are some of the squad clueless.You tell me.
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Post by osrd on Apr 1, 2019 13:39:56 GMT
I like Watson but consistency is obviously a problem and has been for a few seasons (decades!). Possible explanations are; either Watson struggles to fully motivate everyone week in week out or the players are just not that good and it is impossible for Watson to raise their level every single week. I’m not involved enough to know the answer but would imagine it is more the latter given how our squad looks on paper. We expect to see the Catalans away performance every week but is that realistic? Probably not. Agree though that we need a big performance this week, especially from Lui. We turned around our form at this fixture last year and I’d hope for the same here. [br Some of the natives will not like this myself MR and your good self being critical.The question I ask you,do you think any other coach could do any better with this squad,I am not sure. United got rid of the so called special one.The so called super sub is certainly doing better with same players. I know this will be viewed as blasphemy by some on here. I will give an instance against Wigan after their last try at the kick of we just booted the ball back to them,when we needed the ball twice in the last minutes when we did get the ball Hastings on the last tackle just put it in touch resulted in them feeding the scrum.If that happened in am amateur game you would say are brain dead,we need the ball.So his it Watto or are some of the squad clueless.You tell me. No.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 13:45:58 GMT
I like Watson but consistency is obviously a problem and has been for a few seasons (decades!). Possible explanations are; either Watson struggles to fully motivate everyone week in week out or the players are just not that good and it is impossible for Watson to raise their level every single week. I’m not involved enough to know the answer but would imagine it is more the latter given how our squad looks on paper. We expect to see the Catalans away performance every week but is that realistic? Probably not. Agree though that we need a big performance this week, especially from Lui. We turned around our form at this fixture last year and I’d hope for the same here. [br Some of the natives will not like this myself MR and your good self being critical.The question I ask you,do you think any other coach could do any better with this squad,I am not sure. United got rid of the so called special one.The so called super sub is certainly doing better with same players. I know this will be viewed as blasphemy by some on here. I will give an instance against Wigan after their last try at the kick of we just booted the ball back to them,when we needed the ball twice in the last minutes when we did get the ball Hastings on the last tackle just put it in touch resulted in them feeding the scrum.If that happened in am amateur game you would say are brain dead,we need the ball.So his it Watto or are some of the squad clueless.You tell me. In a word - no. He’s done a brilliant job with very little resources and during a time when the club could quite easily have folded. I can’t imagine any other coach sticking it out and doing such a good job. When he gets it right the team can beat anyone and that performance against Catalans was something else - the team looked so well drilled in defence. But that doesn’t mean he is above any constructive criticism like what we’ve mentioned. Last season for example his recruitment was terrible. It’s a good sign that recruitment this year has been so much better - a sign that he’s still developing and open to changing his ways. I don’t think United are the best comparison as they have quite a bigger budget. Maybe Newcastle would be better - fans complained about Allardyce, thought they deserved more but when he left the team crumbled and they were relegated.
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Post by JJR on Apr 1, 2019 16:05:19 GMT
Think without Watson & Blease the Club would have folded. The enthusiasm they bring, the standards set by Watson and the team spirit he's developed is second to none. 8 points and holding Wigan, Cas away, Wakefield away to a few points is more than not bad.
We've also just got 3 new players into the team in the past couple of weeks which upsets structures etc. Everyone said this year was one of survival on and off the pitch ie getting the situation stable. I think we're well on the way. Let's keep the positive vibe and look forward to some more good wins.
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Post by osrd on Apr 1, 2019 16:23:55 GMT
I cannot believe that anyone can suggest/ask that any of the coaching staff at our club are clueless after what they have achieved with such limited finances. I have followed and listened carefully to the coaching and back room staff on many occasions and it is insulting to suggest they are doing anything that hasn’t got the club at heart.
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