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Post by JJR on Sept 21, 2017 14:10:42 GMT
Assuming IB reads this how about our suggestions for getting the crowd to 6000 next year so that the full salary cap available.
1. Our biggest rivals are MU and MC. Get IB to sit down with the RL and miss clashes. Their fixtures are available. If the RL can give dispensation to Huddersfield (who's footy club attendance is 1/3 MU) then they can for us.
2. Choose regular home night. Friday.
3. Games Sat afternoon don't work. If you have to try Sat evening.
4. Do proper deals with Leigh, Swinton, Sale for deal for tickets. Shambles this year.
5. Sort a family are, E Stand and get it sponsored each week McDonald's, Toys R Us, Council, Health Authority, lots of potential sponsors
6. Sell groups of tickets Amateur RL, Schools, Universities and Colleges, Hotel groups, Sports clubs etc at discounted rates.
7. Get the newsletter going by E MAIL. Stop doing everything by useless twitter
I'm sure we have a myriad of ideas. Come on Dixon, where are they 😉
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Post by tony13 on Sept 21, 2017 14:27:26 GMT
I like those ideas, JJR. Number 7 in particular.
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Post by dixon13 on Sept 21, 2017 14:53:34 GMT
Assuming IB reads this how about our suggestions for getting the crowd to 6000 next year so that the full salary cap available. 1. Our biggest rivals are MU and MC. Get IB to sit down with the RL and miss clashes. Their fixtures are available. If the RL can give dispensation to Huddersfield (who's footy club attendance is 1/3 MU) then they can for us. 2. Choose regular home night. Friday. 3. Games Sat afternoon don't work. If you have to try Sat evening. 4. Do proper deals with Leigh, Swinton, Sale for deal for tickets. Shambles this year. 5. Sort a family are, E Stand and get it sponsored each week McDonald's, Toys R Us, Council, Health Authority, lots of potential sponsors 6. Sell groups of tickets Amateur RL, Schools, Universities and Colleges, Hotel groups, Sports clubs etc at discounted rates. 7. Get the newsletter going by E MAIL. Stop doing everything by useless twitter I'm sure we have a myriad of ideas. Come on Dixon, where are they 😉 I agree with all you have said.But I think it all revolves round the team and how we are doing what type of rugby we play.We started this season really well we were getting coverage in the media yes the crowd wasn't brilliant but the last three months have been garbage and some have dropped of.Yes us the diehards debate why we have been rubbish and offer reasons,others not as committed just think it's to much money that they might not have so it becomes a waste This happens at a lot of clubs but when you are starting from a lower base it's worse.So what you say is right but it only takes you so far,the team and how good.Is what drives most clubs.If Wigan had had the back end that we have had some would stay away. |
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Post by JJR on Sept 21, 2017 15:23:08 GMT
So Dixon please find the positive bone in your body, and give us an idea to increase the crowd, just one.
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Post by dixon13 on Sept 21, 2017 15:48:08 GMT
So Dixon please find the positive bone in your body, and give us an idea to increase the crowd, just one. Get a team on the park playing till the end of the season that would be a start and start winning semi finals like i say in my opinion it's the product on the pitch.Not how many flyers you send out or how many tickets you discount.If the product is no good you wouldn't give tickets away.It's nothing to do with positive or negative I B could have walked round Salford in the last three months and not been able to give tickets away.What might help is a big win tonight and some good signings before the season tickets come out. |
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Post by Carnster on Sept 21, 2017 16:05:25 GMT
We played well this year, particularly early on, and the 'masses' of stay-away fans...well...they stayed away. The excuse being that one swallow does not a summer make. Apparently, the team need about five years of good summers before the stay-aways are convinced enough to grace the ground with their presence. Personally, I don't think there are that many stay-away fans at all. I think we're a genuinely small supported club. I think the club should work hard at getting new people involved, be it from Salford and/or outlying areas.
Getting new fans into the ground is more about bombarding them with offers and hope some of them stick. It has less to do with how the team are going at any particular time as new fans are oblivious to the pain and agony of following Salford for many years. Atmosphere is key. New people need to be wooed quickly. Be that pre-match activities, the atmosphere from the supporters, or how different RL is as a community. The game itself, especially a live game sells itself regardless of how the team is going. Potential fans are going to be impressed at the speed, skill, and physicality of what they witness more than the result or consequences.
Look at what Toronto have done. It's all about an afternoon in the fresh air, Family-friendly fun, beer, pre and post match activities, and watching a physical contact sport. Most Canadians would have little idea of the rules or the game itself initially. They come for the day out, but they come back for the day out and the RL from the point of their first contact. So I think the club should be focusing on this type of effort to bring in new people. The game sells itself regardless. What brings them in is key.
The club needs to forget about 'lapsed fans' they'll return when the team plays consistently well. They don't need any other incentive. In fact, no other incentive will work.
Maybe the club building rapport with quite a few schools to promote free kids with paying adults, and maybe put on transport from the schools for these offers may tempt in not just new fans but new families. Just a thought.
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Post by JJR on Sept 21, 2017 16:25:43 GMT
Agree Carnster, yes that's what they do in Auss and maybe the new joint A team or Academy could be curtain raisers.
Transport yes. How about the old Match Day Buses from Eccles, the Willows, Worsley and Little Hulton or wherever but going to the ground and picking up after the match.
Yes schools good but real match day activities for them
Perhaps our esteemed Administrator might gather all these and have some Q& A dialogue about it with IB.
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Post by themaskedavenger on Sept 21, 2017 16:36:10 GMT
Assuming IB reads this how about our suggestions for getting the crowd to 6000 next year so that the full salary cap available. 1. Our biggest rivals are MU and MC. Get IB to sit down with the RL and miss clashes. Their fixtures are available. If the RL can give dispensation to Huddersfield (who's footy club attendance is 1/3 MU) then they can for us. Presumably Huddersfield's arrangement (and presumably similar arrangements at Wigan, Hull FC etc.) is more based around the fact that they are playing on the same pitch rather than any consideration about affecting attendances? Sadly, the idea of having a regular day/time and sticking to it is at the mercy of Sky, not us or the RFL? As above Agreed, although any tie-up with Leigh would surely depend upon what league they are in Agreed Thing is, recent experience suggests that we've struggled to give them away, let alone sell them through third parties. As mentioned by other posters, the overall profile probably needs to be raised before such things as this are going to work, otherwise all that happens is that most cheap/free tickets end up filtering down to folk who would have come along anyway, but now end up paying less to do so Agreed to an extent. It shouldn't be an either/or situation. All media coming out of the club should be planned and co-ordinated across as many channels as are available. Ad-hoc nonsense coming out because a certain person has an itchy twitter-finger needs to stop |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 16:47:43 GMT
Win games and no dramas off field, crowds were on the increase this year due to the simple fact we were winning it doesn't take a genius to work that one out.
Leigh on Good Friday the South Stand was full even the game v Wire was a brilliant crowd and that was a Saturday afternoon, keep building on what we have done before the 8's this year plus yesterday's positive news and we'll get there 4,500 can't be much to ask if we get it right.
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Post by JJR on Sept 21, 2017 16:52:45 GMT
The Huddersfield FC scenario was when they got to Wembley and the RL allowed the rugby team not to play.
My problem when giving things away is that there is no value to them. Charge a fee but encourage with other things, cheap beer for students
Sky agreed but not many games on Sky, it needs to be a seasonal plan such that people get used to regular match days. A lot of organising early doors but worth
Tie up with other clubs Leigh etc no matter which league should be beneficial. Sale are in nobody's league. But we play at it.
The above is where the Club should invest and not in NZ peacocks
Any new ideas Mask?
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Post by scoot on Sept 21, 2017 16:54:40 GMT
We played well this year, particularly early on, and the 'masses' of stay-away fans...well...they stayed away. The excuse being that one swallow does not a summer make. Apparently, the team need about five years of good summers before the stay-aways are convinced enough to grace the ground with their presence. Personally, I don't think there are that many stay-away fans at all. I think we're a genuinely small supported club. I think the club should work hard at getting new people involved, be it from Salford and/or outlying areas. Getting new fans into the ground is more about bombarding them with offers and hope some of them stick. It has less to do with how the team are going at any particular time as new fans are oblivious to the pain and agony of following Salford for many years. Atmosphere is key. New people need to be wooed quickly. Be that pre-match activities, the atmosphere from the supporters, or how different RL is as a community. The game itself, especially a live game sells itself regardless of how the team is going. Potential fans are going to be impressed at the speed, skill, and physicality of what they witness more than the result or consequences. Look at what Toronto have done. It's all about an afternoon in the fresh air, Family-friendly fun, beer, pre and post match activities, and watching a physical contact sport. Most Canadians would have little idea of the rules or the game itself initially. They come for the day out, but they come back for the day out and the RL from the point of their first contact. So I think the club should be focusing on this type of effort to bring in new people. The game sells itself regardless. What brings them in is key. The club needs to forget about 'lapsed fans' they'll return when the team plays consistently well. They don't need any other incentive. In fact, no other incentive will work. Maybe the club building rapport with quite a few schools to promote free kids with paying adults, and maybe put on transport from the schools for these offers may tempt in not just new fans but new families. Just a thought. Re Toronto, I.B and M.K need to find out what Toronto did/do to get the Canadians into their ground. They could not of used twitter or facebook because they had no followers to start with |
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Post by dixon13 on Sept 21, 2017 17:35:58 GMT
We played well this year, particularly early on, and the 'masses' of stay-away fans...well...they stayed away. The excuse being that one swallow does not a summer make. Apparently, the team need about five years of good summers before the stay-aways are convinced enough to grace the ground with their presence. Personally, I don't think there are that many stay-away fans at all. I think we're a genuinely small supported club. I think the club should work hard at getting new people involved, be it from Salford and/or outlying areas. Getting new fans into the ground is more about bombarding them with offers and hope some of them stick. It has less to do with how the team are going at any particular time as new fans are oblivious to the pain and agony of following Salford for many years. Atmosphere is key. New people need to be wooed quickly. Be that pre-match activities, the atmosphere from the supporters, or how different RL is as a community. The game itself, especially a live game sells itself regardless of how the team is going. Potential fans are going to be impressed at the speed, skill, and physicality of what they witness more than the result or consequences. Look at what Toronto have done. It's all about an afternoon in the fresh air, Family-friendly fun, beer, pre and post match activities, and watching a physical contact sport. Most Canadians would have little idea of the rules or the game itself initially. They come for the day out, but they come back for the day out and the RL from the point of their first contact. So I think the club should be focusing on this type of effort to bring in new people. The game sells itself regardless. What brings them in is key. The club needs to forget about 'lapsed fans' they'll return when the team plays consistently well. They don't need any other incentive. In fact, no other incentive will work. Maybe the club building rapport with quite a few schools to promote free kids with paying adults, and maybe put on transport from the schools for these offers may tempt in not just new fans but new families. Just a thought. Re Toronto, I.B and M.K need to find out what Toronto did/do to get the Canadians into their ground. They could not of used twitter or facebook because they had no followers to start with Probably people turned up because it was something new,and they have been winning let's see what happens if they don't get good results next year. |
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Post by JJR on Sept 21, 2017 17:47:47 GMT
Dixon, where's those positive ideas. Being negative about anything anybody says is easy. Being positive with new ideas needs creative thought.
So get thinking of some ideas to bring in fans ( then we can criticise you😉)!!
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Post by mrg on Sept 21, 2017 21:41:03 GMT
Win games and no dramas off field, crowds were on the increase this year due to the simple fact we were winning it doesn't take a genius to work that one out. Leigh on Good Friday the South Stand was full even the game v Wire was a brilliant crowd and that was a Saturday afternoon, keep building on what we have done before the 8's this year plus yesterday's positive news and we'll get there 4,500 can't be much to ask if we get it right. Spot on 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 |
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Post by gadger on Sept 22, 2017 9:30:09 GMT
Continue getting in to schools and local clubs, cheap/free tickets for kids. Better/free transport links from local areas particularly willows area. As mentioned no dramas and decent on field performance. Make the match day more of an event, especially for younger fans.
We made some steps this year then it went to pot with the name change debacle, 4500 is well doable next season
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