|
Post by salford1963 on May 24, 2024 19:08:12 GMT
I think peel are an issue but I am certainly hearing the council are not exactly rushing it they have certainly got a big worry about how the club are going to be making money going forward and I certainly know they have had there own consultant looking into the club and the running of it and let’s just say it’s not a good report!they say there is no structure and certainly commercial wise the club is not run well and they can’t understand why the foundation doesn’t seem to fall under the main club for some reason!this report has been given to the council and considering 30 million is involved the council rightly want answers from the club!so as far as I’m aware the deal is certainly not round the corner which then beggars the img October grading! I’m not sure where you are getting your information from but that is not what I know and if the council have doubts they are certainly not acting that way. They are aware of the club’s plans and are supportive of what the club are doing of trying to achieve, a true community owned club. The council are actively in contact with the powers at be re the match funding and helping with the bid.
|
|
|
Post by salford1963 on May 24, 2024 19:31:32 GMT
As for the Foundation and as far I understand it, Marwan sidelined the Foundation and they were forced to fend for themselves. Having a few years fighting for survival they have a permanent home at Salford College and are now doing some sterling work in the community. That work was pivotal in the Council’s decision to use the The Foundation as a central pillar in implementing their rugby strategy. It would be very strange for the council to question their role in the club at this point when they’ve been working with them closely for the last couple of years.
Paul King certainly sat on the board of the Foundation for a couple of years and still may do but I’m not sure if that’s still the case.
|
|
|
Post by salford1963 on May 24, 2024 20:13:02 GMT
I can say since 2020 basically covid the club has changed and not what they used to be … feels much more secretive like someone has come in and started running things behind the scenes They are so many ways the club and ST and foundation can raise funds too keep the club running health specially during the off seasons …. If the stadium deal doesn’t go through in time you can bet that the club will put out public that we need a few hundred grand to get through the off season and we can say bye bye to a few players sadly Does the new board control the employees of the club as maybe a few changes could be needed … we need to make sure the right people are in place for the club and for Salford Just too add I have heard that the new board is in place am I correct in that or has the voting not finished yet If you feel so passionately that the club are missing so many opportunities then share these ideas with the new board, they are looking for fans just like you to offer their expertise to help them raise funds. I have worked in senior management roles for many years in fact I run my own management consultancy business and have worked closely with companies across the Europe. Given the limited resources that the club has had to work with, Paul King and more recently his fellow board members have performed miracles to keep the club afloat. There’s a huge difference between being secretive and getting on with the job. A lot of what is going on is beyond the control of the club so they are waiting for those that have that control to make decisions. That should not be interpreted as secretive or deliberately not sharing important news, it’s because they have to run the club professionally and as they see fit. If fans don’t like that style then they have had the opportunity to put themselves or other like-minded individuals up for election and hold Paul King accountable.
|
|
|
Post by kilop on May 24, 2024 21:23:54 GMT
Why does it need to be so drastic and why so defensive? . All we are asking for is a regular update on the stadium. Even if its a monthly " no developments, were now looking at July" would be good. Anything that has this big an impact on the future of the club is obviously going to be a hot topic for all fans, so not saying anything because " there's no update from the council" doesn't wash it. Its a simple thing that stops all this talk and should be basic comms for any business.
|
|
|
Post by JJR on May 24, 2024 21:34:04 GMT
Yep the Board basically is failing in its duties and losing £1m last year doesn’t instill confidence…money that was funded by selling our best players and getting £300,000 + from supporters
If 1963 is an international consultant thinking this is good business I don’t think any major company I’d work with would have employed him🙃
l have the constant feeling it’s all smoke and mirrors and we’re being conned…always somebody else’s fault but the Boards…who after all do the planning, lose lots of money, blame others and need baling out…sadly…and keep us in the dark…Community Club…I don’t think so
|
|
|
Post by salford1963 on May 24, 2024 22:02:43 GMT
Why does it need to be so drastic and why so defensive? . All we are asking for is a regular update on the stadium. Even if its a monthly " no developments, were now looking at July" would be good. Anything that has this big an impact on the future of the club is obviously going to be a hot topic for all fans, so not saying anything because " there's no update from the council" doesn't wash it. Its a simple thing that stops all this talk and should be basic comms for any business. First of all I don’t represent the board in my posts, these are my own views and you can rightly interpret them as you wish. Were you at the CBS event on Thursday? Though it was not the forum to ask questions about the stadium Paul King did volunteer to update the audience on the latest update. I appreciate that it’s not possible to attend such events for a variety of reasons but maybe, by proxy perhaps, make sure your questions are asked and answered.
|
|
|
Post by salford1963 on May 24, 2024 22:06:25 GMT
Yep the Board basically is failing in its duties and losing £1m last year doesn’t instill confidence…money that was funded by selling our best players and getting £300,000 + from supporters If 1963 is an international consultant thinking this is good business I don’t think any major company I’d work with would have employed him🙃 l have the constant feeling it’s all smoke and mirrors and we’re being conned…always somebody else’s fault but the Boards…who after all do the planning, lose lots of money, blame others and need baling out…sadly…and keep us in the dark…Community Club…I don’t think so John, you are a sad and bitter old man
|
|
|
Post by dixon13 on May 24, 2024 23:11:19 GMT
Yep the Board basically is failing in its duties and losing £1m last year doesn’t instill confidence…money that was funded by selling our best players and getting £300,000 + from supporters If 1963 is an international consultant thinking this is good business I don’t think any major company I’d work with would have employed him🙃 l have the constant feeling it’s all smoke and mirrors and we’re being conned…always somebody else’s fault but the Boards…who after all do the planning, lose lots of money, blame others and need baling out…sadly…and keep us in the dark…Community Club…I don’t think so John, you are a sad and bitter old man JJR doesn't need me to defend him,but their is know need for asides like bitter old man I think the board are doing what they think is right but that doesn't give them a free pass, does that make me a bitter old man for saying that I might not agree with what someone says,but I will fight for their right to say it
|
|
|
Post by kilop on May 24, 2024 23:25:13 GMT
Why does it need to be so drastic and why so defensive? . All we are asking for is a regular update on the stadium. Even if its a monthly " no developments, were now looking at July" would be good. Anything that has this big an impact on the future of the club is obviously going to be a hot topic for all fans, so not saying anything because " there's no update from the council" doesn't wash it. Its a simple thing that stops all this talk and should be basic comms for any business. First of all I don’t represent the board in my posts, these are my own views and you can rightly interpret them as you wish. Were you at the CBS event on Thursday? Though it was not the forum to ask questions about the stadium Paul King did volunteer to update the audience on the latest update. I appreciate that it’s not possible to attend such events for a variety of reasons but maybe, by proxy perhaps, make sure your questions are asked and answered. I know you don't represent the board and my frustration is with them and not you. However, again your suggestion involves us having to pull the info out of the club. It should be the club proactively giving updates to keep fans in the loop. Its not the correct way and it needs to be addressed as we must rectify it and learn. So my question is how and who do we raise it to ? It can't wait until the next AGM.
|
|
|
Post by SalfordSlim on May 24, 2024 23:43:52 GMT
The mind boggles, Jesus H.🤦♂️🙄
|
|
|
Post by JJR on May 25, 2024 6:29:38 GMT
Yep the Board basically is failing in its duties and losing £1m last year doesn’t instill confidence…money that was funded by selling our best players and getting £300,000 + from supporters If 1963 is an international consultant thinking this is good business I don’t think any major company I’d work with would have employed him🙃 l have the constant feeling it’s all smoke and mirrors and we’re being conned…always somebody else’s fault but the Boards…who after all do the planning, lose lots of money, blame others and need baling out…sadly…and keep us in the dark…Community Club…I don’t think so John, you are a sad and bitter old man Peter just because somebody has a different opinion to you does not give you the right to reply in a pathetic insulting and childish manner Unlike you I don’t wear rose coloured spectacles but I respect your opposite views to mine Now grow up and behave in a respectful manner to those who don’t agree with your views. I’ll leave you to your adulation
|
|
|
Post by kilop on May 25, 2024 7:30:40 GMT
Anywho, maybe we just park this for a bit as I think we're all getting a bit worked up ( I know I was) about the topic. We all care for the club and want it pointing in the right direction and that's the main thing. We've a big match tomorrow, so maybe it's worth locking it for a day or 2 carnster ? We can then all focus on what's going on on the pitch and get behind the lads ? A nice revenge win after last time should lift everyone spirits. Over to you and the boys mr sneyd
|
|
|
Post by SalfordSlim on May 25, 2024 7:55:02 GMT
I think a few people need to give their heads a wobble on here and stop playing the victim. If you're happy to dish stuff out then don't get your panties in a twist when someone bites back.
Some of the stuff I've read on here over the years, I genuinely don't know if the odd poster on here is a "fan" or a WUM (look it up).
PS. Anyone who bought shares in the community club has been getting regular updates about board members etc via WhatsApp & email.
|
|
|
Post by tron on May 25, 2024 8:16:42 GMT
Does anyone know how the annual membership fee will work. I think it was mentioned that a membership fee will be introduced at a level to be set by the new board.
Not sure if I misunderstood but did they say this needs paying if you want to remain an owner.
|
|
|
Post by red54 on May 25, 2024 8:25:44 GMT
Why anyone would want to serve on a Board without pay is crackers I know I have done it but i am very glad these people have, we should be supporting them not criticising, if it hadn’t been for people like Paul King and Andy Rosler we would have sunk years ago of course not forgetting the thousands of us who have and keep on doing by financially supporting this Great Club of ours. It’s very easy to sit in front of a computer writing your thoughts and criticisms, take the chance and have a go yourselves and see what it’s like, you well get a shock as to what amount of damage is done by words.
|
|