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Post by SalfordSlim on Dec 20, 2023 22:45:16 GMT
Always a tough call OD. Obvs women's sport is booming at the minute and Earps is one of the faces of the England women's team. Hewett's achievements are fantastic but wheelchair tennis just gets so little exposure compared to mainstream tennis and most of the other major sports in the UK. Some phenomenal athletes have never won the award unfortunately.
Personally I'd like to see male and female awards but that ain't particularly PC in this day and age for some reason.
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Post by russ on Dec 21, 2023 15:21:06 GMT
From an RL SRD fan's point of view the Spoty is even more redundant than a QoS!
At least one of them is disappearing from the landscape I hope th eother one will follow suit ASAP>
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Post by russ on Dec 26, 2023 14:38:52 GMT
Daryl Powell not happy with six again after the Rhinos came back to defeat Trinity. I know some will say that's just Powell, but given the changes to the rules I think quite a few will be unhappy with the rule favouring some sides even more than it has up to now.
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Post by kreuzbergred on Dec 26, 2023 22:38:50 GMT
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Post by russ on Jan 21, 2024 14:23:45 GMT
Now in terms of TV coverage of the game as a whole RLc & IMG seem to be doing a reasonable job of widening availability and increasing the number of media partners.
As usual there's little information about whether or not this has increased the sport's revenue.
It's also true to say that the TV partners, on the whole, are the same old group. This begs the question of how all this is supposed to increase the media coverage of the sport in the wider sense?
THe Beeb has never been helpful in the respect and Sky seems to have given up the ghost from such fantastic early promise.
The sport is almost totally beyond the vision of most people in the country to such an extent that the game tends to grateful for being covered at all and looks desperate to be mentioned in the worst way. Then there's the number of so called fans that say the sport gets what it merits which makes you wonder why they're fans at all.
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Post by russ on Feb 7, 2024 14:16:04 GMT
Back to TV
On LoveRL
"The big question: how much have the BBC paid?
A question which is likely to be asked of the senior figures at RL Commercial at Thursday’s Super League launch. Love Rugby League has been told the BBC HAVE paid to win the rights – which is in stark contrast to the Channel 4 deal, that was essentially for free.
However, that deal was struck to open the door for Super League to be showcased on free-to-air and make a case to broadcasters that it had merit. It certainly seems that has proven to be the case."
So C4 was yet another Edie stobart deal, and the monies seem to be a state secret this time around too.
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Post by idrewthehaggis on Feb 7, 2024 16:06:28 GMT
I plonked a question about finances on rl total with specific questions to make It easier to answer But that have few responses.
Not surprising as a sport and in sharp contrast to others, there is little transparency.
It’s like as if (cough) the Game is run like (wheezes) a freemasonry lodge.
That Sky tv deal, the individual allocation to clubs of that money, fees by clubs for u 16 signing on, player dispensations, advertising deals, player and officials wages, if there is a secret top up for internationals and it carries on.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the BBC are offering up Blue Peter badges and a signed tattered pic of the Burgess boy confusingly in an England RU kit 💣
Pretty shoddy
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Post by russ on Feb 7, 2024 17:17:35 GMT
I plonked a question about finances on rl total with specific questions to make It easier to answer But that have few responses. Not surprising as a sport and in sharp contrast to others, there is little transparency. It’s like as if (cough) the Game is run like (wheezes) a freemasonry lodge. That Sky tv deal, the individual allocation to clubs of that money, fees by clubs for u 16 signing on, player dispensations, advertising deals, player and officials wages, if there is a secret top up for internationals and it carries on. I wouldn’t be surprised if the BBC are offering up Blue Peter badges and a signed tattered pic of the Burgess boy confusingly in an England RU kit 💣 Pretty shoddy The whole IMG re-fit is looking shoddier by the moment, it's almost as if they only know how to work it if the product is already a household name, recognisable by the world and his wife! You posted on Total! You'll catch several communicable diseases and urinary infection appearing on there.
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Post by idrewthehaggis on Feb 7, 2024 19:56:53 GMT
Are you sure kidder. I am sure there are some houses in which Euro basketball featured, but I doubt most have it as a household name.
The RFL is a bureaucracy and you do not need to have studied Max Weber to knows it’s self serving and inherently entrenched in its thinking. It’s inability/reluctance to offer widespread (instead of enhancing and being in cahoots with the ‘big’ clubs) advancement has resulted them expensively hiring an outside body to attempt any changes.
It has moderately kicked some arses to provoke some re branding, the Beeb deal, fan engagement and even a fresh bog roll at Castleford,
But perhaps like Starmer, it won’t or can’t reform enough and in places it needs.
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Post by russ on Feb 8, 2024 4:09:34 GMT
Are you sure kidder. I am sure there are some houses in which Euro basketball featured, but I doubt most have it as a household name. The RFL is a bureaucracy and you do not need to have studied Max Weber to knows it’s self serving and inherently entrenched in its thinking. It’s inability/reluctance to offer widespread (instead of enhancing and being in cahoots with the ‘big’ clubs) advancement has resulted them expensively hiring an outside body to attempt any changes. It has moderately kicked some arses to provoke some re branding, the Beeb deal, fan engagement and even a fresh bog roll at Castleford, But perhaps like Starmer, it won’t or can’t reform enough and in places it needs. Yes I'm pretty sure IMG look like they couldn't sell an election win to the Tories.
As for Sir Keith well .... he's exactly what the Labour Party deserve and the Labour Party is fully reformed and has a not so new Avatar with misleading and out of date label. If they changed the name though it would definitely give the game away.
Speaking of (far more important) labels, I saw the Harry Sunderland is to be renamed the Rob Burrow and although I can understand the reasoning it does look a bit like dumping your history.
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Post by BDD on Feb 8, 2024 10:45:57 GMT
Personally, I've always thought that named trophies, like Harry Sunderland, Lance Todd, and Steve Prescott should have an expiry date before being renamed. Say 25- or 50-years.
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Post by russ on Feb 8, 2024 11:31:17 GMT
Personally, I've always thought that named trophies, like Harry Sunderland, Lance Todd, and Steve Prescott should have an expiry date before being renamed. Say 25- or 50-years. As I said I can see why they'd do it but there's still a bit of disrespect to the importance of those who came before, and a sell by date certainly fits that bill. |
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Post by BDD on Feb 8, 2024 11:52:33 GMT
The problem here is that they've just changed it, but there is no expiry date. I think here should always be one. That way, when the change comes you can celebrate the previous player(s) that the award was named after and the new person that is receiving the honour. In 100 years, Sunderland, Todd, Prescott, likely don't mean much to people and they won't look them up, but in a changeover event, you can go back and highlight all of these players, publish information on the website, social media, and general media, to generate awareness of the history surrounding that trophy and the sport in general. Also, changing it every 25- to 50- years, allows the sport to celebrate other greats of the game. I know there will be loads of people from the past who deserve the honour. In recent times, Ellery Handley immediately comes to mind. Sonfield for everything he's done on and off the pitch - not now for either of them, but surely, in the future, they deserve a 25 years spell.
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Post by Chico on Feb 8, 2024 12:38:48 GMT
I’m not sure whether the names should change on rotation. I understand the argument, but the point of using their name is that we remember them for a particular reason, not whether they are still valid within living memory. Lance Todd, for example, was not only a great coach and player but he was also the ‘voice’ of rugby league in the late 1920s and 1930s – the Eddie Hemmings, Ray French, Eddie Waring of his day – around the time when the Challenge Cup became a fixture at Wembley. That said, the reason behind Harry Sunderland’s name being removed from the trophy isn’t necessarily to do with the passing of time. Sunderland was a contemporary of Todd and a main driver behind the Lance Todd Trophy concept. However, there has always been the allegation that Sunderland was racist, coming from his alleged treatment of Roy Francis when he was coach at Wigan. Francis was moved on and remained a very good player, but as a coach, Roy Francis is somewhat of a legend – arguably the closest we have to Jack Gibson – and in recent years there has been a campaign to remove Sunderland’s name from the Super League MOM award in favour of the Roy Francis Trophy. I suppose this was considered but they’ve decided to go with a more contemporary name we also shouldn’t forget in Rob Burrow.
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Post by russ on Feb 8, 2024 19:09:06 GMT
It's not likely that the fans' thoughts will be taken any notice of, but changing the coach of the Year to the Roy Francis would be a magic move.
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