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Post by bandgeekmafia78 on Dec 13, 2016 18:27:24 GMT
Confirmed to have signed for Sale Sharks.
It's an interesting situation as he had 2 years remaining on his Castleford contract before 'retiring' from Rugby League in order to have a fresh start in Rugby Union.
It also sets a worrying precedent for other RL players who are under contract and wish to switch codes simply by 'retiring',and making their existing contracts null and void.
I believe Castleford are going to take Solomona to court for breach of contract. I hope for the sake of RL that they win their case.
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Post by rednotdead on Dec 13, 2016 18:43:27 GMT
A lot if players seem to be walking away from contracts at the moment. Very worrying trend for our sport and potentially our club. We seem to have a good set of guys currently but the fact remains that good players can earn better money playing union. It's their living at the end of the day. League clubs need to look at the contracts they give out. If players can walk away like that the contracts are worthless
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 21:02:57 GMT
A decent idea would be to load a contract with a bulk payment if they see it out, walk away and they lose it.
Andy Clarke (his agent) should be banned from RL for his part in this, much as it's morally dodgy don't think Sale have done anything wrong, they have obviously had his agent filling his head with all kinds of stuff. I'd bet a sticky bun that Solomona hasn't thought about retiring from RL himself, more his agent has said look there's a contract for X amount on the cards just retire and sign for Sale.
RL internationally can set a precedence by banning him from the sport of RL for life, if it fails to happen for him in RU no avenue back into RL should be available to him. Might make any future stunts like this less enticing.
Very much doubt Clarke will be banned because of his family ties and even more so because deep down I think the RFL are a bunch of spineless gonads.
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Post by gadger on Dec 13, 2016 21:57:12 GMT
A decent idea would be to load a contract with a bulk payment if they see it out, walk away and they lose it. Andy Clarke (his agent) should be banned from RL for his part in this, much as it's morally dodgy don't think Sale have done anything wrong, they have obviously had his agent filling his head with all kinds of stuff. I'd bet a sticky bun that Solomona hasn't thought about retiring from RL himself, more his agent has said look there's a contract for X amount on the cards just retire and sign for Sale. RL internationally can set a precedence by banning him from the sport of RL for life, if it fails to happen for him in RU no avenue back into RL should be available to him. Might make any future stunts like this less enticing. Very much doubt Clarke will be banned because of his family ties and even more so because deep down I think the RFL are a bunch of spineless gonads. Morally dodgy??? I think it's a little more than that. They know exactly what they have done, it's despicable. I know you have a deep dislike of cas and you don't feel the same was about ru as many on here, but this is real low. I hope cas take all of them to the cleaners |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 22:57:55 GMT
My intense dislike of Castleford doesn't come into this as deep down I find this incredibly worrying for RL as let's face it we are a second class sport to both the NRL and RU in terms of financial restraints. I have only once been lucky enough to be head hunted in my life and in effect this is what has happened with Solomona, right or wrong it happens in all forms of businesses and sport is no different. Sale have seen a player they think will help their organisation and gone after him, I still maintain that the agent is the biggest villain in all this.
For what it's worth I hope all of RL (both in the UK and with help from the NRL) get behind this and back the court case to the hilt, my gut feeling is that they won't as RL has a bit of previous for not seeing the bigger picture.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 22:59:06 GMT
What I can't wait to see is when Sky has Phil Clarke answering the half and post match Twitter feeds, think the expletives might just become and avalanche.
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Post by gadger on Dec 13, 2016 23:04:46 GMT
Yep can't argue, it's certainly a worry. The sport is going the wrong way and this could set a precedent.
Looking at the players who have left super league this last few weeks, the standard will be even lower than last year. Sad times.
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Post by bandgeekmafia78 on Dec 14, 2016 9:55:34 GMT
Yep can't argue, it's certainly a worry. The sport is going the wrong way and this could set a precedent. Looking at the players who have left super league this last few weeks, the standard will be even lower than last year. Sad times. Correct. The Super League brand is having it's quality diluted by actions like this. If Solomona's move to Sale is allowed to stand, surely the reverse could happen in RU if a player fancies a move to RL? |
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Post by gadger on Dec 14, 2016 10:23:48 GMT
Yes, which is part of what cas are going to court to stop - same for all sports. It makes contracts pretty much worthless
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Post by bonitared on Dec 14, 2016 21:43:46 GMT
Apologies for stating the obvious and I may have missed this point.
It's certainly bad news but it depends what his contract of employment says,completely.
If I had a contract as a bank manager and I decided to be a brain surgeon then it would still depend on the contract and the notice period.
If his contract says that it only relates to Rugby League,which I strongly doubt,then Cas are stuffed.
If it relates to his employment overall then I can't understand how Sale could have signed him.
If that were the case ,Cas could request an injunction to stop him playing for Sale
Depends totally on what the contract wording says.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 8:53:38 GMT
Do think it would be funny if the RFL and Sale became embroiled in a lengthy legal argument and it prevented Solomona from playing, Sale having to keep paying his over inflated wages but him actually not being able to play.
What would be curious was if Sale/Solomona were found guilty, would he have to return to Castleford or would Sale be forced to pay a hefty transfer fee that would set a precedence for the future.
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Post by dixon13 on Dec 15, 2016 17:52:01 GMT
Do think it would be funny if the RFL and Sale became embroiled in a lengthy legal argument and it prevented Solomona from playing, Sale having to keep paying his over inflated wages but him actually not being able to play. What would be curious was if Sale/Solomona were found guilty, would he have to return to Castleford or would Sale be forced to pay a hefty transfer fee that would set a precedence for the future. I can't see Sale playing him until the case is done.Also I understood Sale had offered 150 thousand for him but Cas would not take it.And rightly so.In my opinion every sane person would hope Cas win the case,then make him see out is two years. |
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Post by jeffmcrib on Dec 16, 2016 12:59:42 GMT
A decent idea would be to load a contract with a bulk payment if they see it out, walk away and they lose it. Andy Clarke (his agent) should be banned from RL for his part in this, much as it's morally dodgy don't think Sale have done anything wrong, they have obviously had his agent filling his head with all kinds of stuff. I'd bet a sticky bun that Solomona hasn't thought about retiring from RL himself, more his agent has said look there's a contract for X amount on the cards just retire and sign for Sale. RL internationally can set a precedence by banning him from the sport of RL for life, if it fails to happen for him in RU no avenue back into RL should be available to him. Might make any future stunts like this less enticing. Very much doubt Clarke will be banned because of his family ties and even more so because deep down I think the RFL are a bunch of spineless gonads. Like the idea of the ban from RL internationally, but only if he's found to have breached his contract. Otherwise it would look very much like a case of sour grapes by the RL community. "Well we never wanted you to play with us anyway" - boys in the playground stuff.
The way to go is through the contract. Though I appreciate there will always be legal wrangling's in any contract, they can surely be made to honor it for it's length or until the mutual parties agree on termination.
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Post by scoot on Dec 16, 2016 13:34:30 GMT
Do think it would be funny if the RFL and Sale became embroiled in a lengthy legal argument and it prevented Solomona from playing, Sale having to keep paying his over inflated wages but him actually not being able to play. What would be curious was if Sale/Solomona were found guilty, would he have to return to Castleford or would Sale be forced to pay a hefty transfer fee that would set a precedence for the future. I can't see Sale playing him until the case is done.Also I understood Sale had offered 150 thousand for him but Cas would not take it.And rightly so.In my opinion every sane person would hope Cas win the case,then make him see out is two years. I Remember reading Steve Diamond of Sale, saying they could afford to pay Solomona £400,000 a year. Well, if that's the case why don't they just pay Cas asking price of £250,000. They can afford it |
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Post by bonitared on Dec 16, 2016 14:14:07 GMT
"They can afford it" is massively overused in all sorts of contexts.
Sale Sharks is a sports business, and will pay what it needs to.
I really hope that Sale are stuffed in the courts,because his contract is watertight.
If not,the Cas contract team need stuffing. Surely it's a straightforward contract for his services and doesn't just apply to Rugby League.
Clearly,he's not going back to Cas but as jeffmcribb rightly said,it's all about the contract,not about what Sale can afford
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