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Post by returningred on Oct 1, 2023 7:26:45 GMT
Not every year will the funding suddenly be dropped by well over 200k though is it? RFL gave clubs what funding they were receiving, then after telling clubs they dropped it! That could well happen though, you didn’t expect it this year The article published by Matt shaw clearly says this is a further reduction in what the clubs had already been told which is why it has caused such an issue. RFL advised clubs what they were getting once the Tv deal was sorted! They have since run further figures and decided to reduce it further. |
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Post by returningred on Oct 1, 2023 7:28:33 GMT
It’s supposed to be run as a business RR with contingencies, not knee jerk to every issue The Club doesn’t raise enough money…and that’s it in a nutshell, mate. And as everyone knows we are run on a shoestring! If we had kept a couple of hundred grand spare it would have come from the playing budget! The way you go on I honestly don’t h sweat and why you bother following the club! I have never heard anything positive come from you since this forum began |
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Post by returningred on Oct 1, 2023 7:31:09 GMT
I think reiterating our financial situation is pretty pointless. At this point, it's regurgitating stuff every Salford fan knows and I'm not really sure what the point is. Every club can be run better, every club has done something to upset fans, etc etc. That's the nature of all things. You'd think that we as Salford fans would sit here and continue the roller coaster ride and enjoy it while we still have it. In fact, we are the strongest we've been in decades, yet a lot of us continue to live our lives stuck down the negative rabbit hole. Barring a billionaire popping-up it wouldn't matter if you wiped the club clean and started again off the field in any formation of potential regimes and hierarchy. We'd still be in the same spot, struggling with crowds and money. Modern RL fans are a strange bunch. The most self-destructive and tribal fans of any sport. This is a news thread, and its dangerously teetering on derailment to the same old stuff we've read on here day after day for what seems like forever. Please feel free to start or continue the regurgitation on a thread of its own. I like not having to moderate, and I think we'd have more interaction on here from the lurkers if they knew every thread wasn't going to be hijacked. I agree to an extent, however the recent news that has come out with a further hit on funding over and above the original known reduction has the possibility to seriously impact the game |
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Post by JJR on Oct 1, 2023 7:55:09 GMT
Stop the drama…It’s only £200k, the money Wigan paid for Dupree
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Post by russ on Oct 1, 2023 8:05:30 GMT
Nor should you SS, but Kingy reacted to the story which is the point. Sorry Russ... I think you think I'm having a pop at you for posting the link which isn't the case at all. My ire is aimed at the clowns that call themselves journalists. I think if you look at many of my posts SS I'm just as fed up with Journos.
And unless there's areal insult/unnecessary I don't get annoyed or take offence in any way.
I also tried to ask if anyone had any idea why that would become a story and I suspect something in the background but I've no idea what.
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Post by redoctober on Oct 1, 2023 8:14:25 GMT
Stop the drama…It’s only £200k, the money Wigan paid for Dupree Will the trolling ever stop 🙄 |
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Post by russ on Oct 1, 2023 8:17:50 GMT
It’s supposed to be run as a business RR with contingencies, not knee jerk to every issue The Club doesn’t raise enough money…and that’s it in a nutshell, mate. And as everyone knows we are run on a shoestring! If we had kept a couple of hundred grand spare it would have come from the playing budget! The way you go on I honestly don’t h sweat and why you bother following the club! I have never heard anything positive come from you since this forum began RR what's nice for business, or the idea of business, is that there is a myth that they're run well and success is just a matter of hard work. Both these notions are spread by business and just like market forces have more holes than emental cheese.
Businesses work in many different ways and are very individual but you'd never know it from the coverage.
It's very like yoonion or the Tories in the press a sort of sacred cow, holy relic job.
It also means an inability to go outside the box.
I'd argue that sometimes we forget we're all on the same side on here.
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Post by BDD on Oct 1, 2023 8:58:26 GMT
It's not just the club that doesn't raise enough money, the sport doesn't make enough money and it's getting worse. Clubs run at a loss and we raise the salary cap beyond what's actually affordable living beyond our means at the behest of a few wealthy individuals (Ken Davy has reportedly sunk £20m in to Huddersfield). The last two TV deals have been reduced and with inflation you'd have an effective reduction even if we were given the same money so it's a double whammy. I'd like to know what the viewing figures were before the previous TV deal and then below this ealm is the sport really that much less valuable?
In 2021 it went down from £40m to £26m. Now it's gone to £20m. Overall that's a reduction. Of 50% (£20m) from 2020 until now.
According to the Bank of England £20m.with inflation would be worth £24,158,659. So to have a TV deal that is equivalent to 2020 we'd need to receive £48,317,318, bits we've get £20. So the actual real-world education from 2020 isn't 50%, it's a reduction of 58.6%.
Now from 2021, when we received £26m, the real world value of that is now £30,613,901. By receiving £20 we've had a real world reduction of 34.67%. If be very interest to now how thew value was calculated two years ago and today to come to a reduction of 34.67% in value.
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Post by JJR on Oct 1, 2023 9:04:30 GMT
The Oz Grand Final, amazing…well worth a watch..brilliant
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Post by salford1963 on Oct 1, 2023 9:08:08 GMT
And to think that English Premiership rugby union clubs receive £11m+ each from SKY which highlights the disparity between the codes.
Having watched a few games from the RU World Cup which has been a painful watch at times and then you compare the speed and skill levels in the NRL grand final the latter is light years ahead in enjoyment terms. Only if a broadcaster would invest in and market the game properly here then we could grow the game to RU levels
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Post by turkey on Oct 1, 2023 9:13:59 GMT
Stop the drama…It’s only £200k, the money Wigan paid for Dupree Will the trolling ever stop 🙄 It's tedious ain't it. I've said it before but JJR ain't no salford fan, he can't be, imagine going through life constantly whinging |
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Post by BDD on Oct 1, 2023 9:18:40 GMT
Wow! £11m each. I just don't see how Union is worth that. I can't imagine the viewing of their league fixtures is that much higher. Certainly not to that extent. I agree about the product. I can't watch Union. I've tried but for me it's extremely slow and boring with very little actual rugby played (passing the ball about). It's just like watching kicking practice at times.
If only Sky would invest a little more so that we could have 14 teams in the league and each team spending the cap. Then remove stupid rules that benefit certain clubs so that players actually do disperse as each team can spend the cap and let's see how the product looks five years later. The league would be so mh better. The Eason the NRL is so good is because players do disperse and take their talents and standards to other. Looks at the players Penrith have lost in the last few years. Most notably, Burton, May, Kikau, Koroisau, and this year Crichton (Origin standard players).
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Post by JJR on Oct 1, 2023 9:21:18 GMT
After half an hour zero 6 Agains!!
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Post by SalfordSlim on Oct 1, 2023 9:24:28 GMT
And to think that English Premiership rugby union clubs receive £11m+ each from SKY which highlights the disparity between the codes. Having watched a few games from the RU World Cup which has been a painful watch at times and then you compare the speed and skill levels in the NRL grand final the latter is light years ahead in enjoyment terms. Only if a broadcaster would invest in and market the game properly here then we could grow the game to RU levels Yet Union is run and funded by the upper/middle classes who are so brainwashed into thinking it's a great sport when 95% of the time it's dogsh*t. If only someone with real cash could see how great a sport RL is and fund it properly. "Mr Salford" must make a fortune out of our sport but I bet he barely puts a penny back in despite his brand being plastered everywhere. |
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Post by BDD on Oct 1, 2023 9:29:15 GMT
And they noted he issues with 6 agians and made it a penalty inside your own 40. The caveats were obvious and easily exploited. I don't know why we didn't implement that. Personally, I'd prefer to see it be awarded as a penalty inside either 30m zone. Because there are times you are losing out on a obvious 2 points... how stupid is a rule when it is preventing the team who should have a penalty from scoring points? Imagine being level on points or even a point or two behind and and getting 6 agains in kickable positions. It's ridiculously stupid. Kffisde, penalty kick two points. Holding down, slowing the PTB, which is essentially a professional foul when done on purpose, and it's 6 again. One of the worst rules ever introduced. Even in other areas of the pitch you are getting a new set instead of 15-30m and a new set.
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