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Post by earlybath on Sept 2, 2023 16:08:44 GMT
Maybe but in general play his up and unders are always too long and do not give his attackers time to challenge the full back.
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Post by reddevil89 on Sept 2, 2023 19:00:53 GMT
Gotta go all out for Magoo, he's the type of player we need in the middles, last week against cats he was immense, plays short stints but they are full on
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Post by BDD on Sept 2, 2023 23:01:13 GMT
The kick wasn’t his fault mate…it’s those following the kick that were the problem IMO, it was his fault becaus he kicked it. He never should have put it up in the first place. It was 100% a dumb play that had next to zero chance of resulting in anything positive for us. Not long before it we were at 4-4. Some poor discipline gave away territory and we ended up 14-4 down. He's supposed to be the calming influece and our smart player/game manager. The options there were run it in and go in at half time 14-4 and consolidate; swing the ball out left and keep it alive to see if something opens up on their defence; or if we wanted to be more attacking then put a short kick through for Brierley and make sure someone is backing him up because nobody is outpacing Field to the corner. Personally, I think there are far too many 'bombs' in the modern game. They rarely result in anything positive for the attacking team. Defenders are generally pretty good at coming up the the ball and even when the attacker gets there it's often too far out to score a try and so it results in a handover anyway. I get the kicking for territory and putting a defender under pressure but to often the ball isn't reaching the 5/10m line, it's 20/30m, so it better to kick it low and deep. I'd like to see Rowley get the players operating with more variation. Wigan have kicked a lot of 3rd and 4th tackle this year and it's worked. Realistically, how many extra metres do you make by taking taking the extra tackle and then kicking when they are fully prepared for it? Would it not be a better territorial result to kick earlier and before the kngers drop further? Would kicking on different tackles create more doubt in defenders and cause them to drop off earlier leaving more space outside? |
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Post by Carnster on Sept 3, 2023 6:02:36 GMT
The kick wasn’t his fault mate…it’s those following the kick that were the problem IMO, it was his fault becaus he kicked it. He never should have put it up in the first place. It was 100% a dumb play that had next to zero chance of resulting in anything positive for us. Not long before it we were at 4-4. Some poor discipline gave away territory and we ended up 14-4 down. He's supposed to be the calming influece and our smart player/game manager. The options there were run it in and go in at half time 14-4 and consolidate; swing the ball out left and keep it alive to see if something opens up on their defence; or if we wanted to be more attacking then put a short kick through for Brierley and make sure someone is backing him up because nobody is outpacing Field to the corner. Personally, I think there are far too many 'bombs' in the modern game. They rarely result in anything positive for the attacking team. Defenders are generally pretty good at coming up the the ball and even when the attacker gets there it's often too far out to score a try and so it results in a handover anyway. I get the kicking for territory and putting a defender under pressure but to often the ball isn't reaching the 5/10m line, it's 20/30m, so it better to kick it low and deep. I'd like to see Rowley get the players operating with more variation. Wigan have kicked a lot of 3rd and 4th tackle this year and it's worked. Realistically, how many extra metres do you make by taking taking the extra tackle and then kicking when they are fully prepared for it? Would it not be a better territorial result to kick earlier and before the kngers drop further? Would kicking on different tackles create more doubt in defenders and cause them to drop off earlier leaving more space outside? I think kicks are very dependent on who you have on the edges, who the opposition has on the edges, and how big in-goal areas are. Sometimes low kicks are not the answer if the ground has shallow in-goal areas. I also think that SL doesn't have that many talented high ball takers, say, in comparison to the NRL. I think it's a little more complex than saying 'bombs don't work'. I agree that they are a lot scrappier in SL but I still think there's a time and place for them. |
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Post by JJR on Oct 5, 2023 7:20:53 GMT
Cross/ Ryan
Sio
McDonald
Lafai
Burgess
Brierley
Sneyd
Doesn’t look a bad backline
Presumably as McDonald still contracted to Leeds and they want to get rid zBlease will have done some part wages payment deal. We have no money we have to scrape around
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Post by cmillward20 on Oct 5, 2023 7:55:03 GMT
Cross/ Ryan Sio McDonald Lafai Burgess Brierley Sneyd Doesn’t look a bad backline Presumably as McDonald still contracted to Leeds and they want to get rid zBlease will have done some part wages payment deal. We have no money we have to scrape around Top back line but as we saw this season can’t do anything without a pack and we have one of the worst in the comp. That’s why a deal for nene is strange to me |
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Post by Carnster on Oct 5, 2023 8:47:33 GMT
Agree, cmillward20. Seems a bit unusual to be tinkering with the back line when the problem is in the forwards. Unless there's business with the forwards we're not aware of.
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Post by russ on Oct 5, 2023 11:23:12 GMT
I have no information on the youngster we signed from Leeds, isn't he a half-back?
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Post by twistthemellonman on Oct 5, 2023 12:52:51 GMT
Blake Austin recently followed morsons and Brierley….
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Post by cmillward20 on Oct 5, 2023 13:03:42 GMT
Blake Austin recently followed morsons and Brierley…. This would be a dreadful move |
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Post by twistthemellonman on Oct 5, 2023 13:39:32 GMT
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Post by twistthemellonman on Oct 5, 2023 13:41:24 GMT
Will support anyone who puts on the Salford shirt. He was actually pretty good at Leeds and Cas at the back end of this season really and it’s the sort of similar running half that Croft is. Not saying they’re on the same level but at least it’s not going to that hard to gel
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Post by reddevil89 on Oct 5, 2023 13:49:26 GMT
Will support anyone who puts on the Salford shirt. He was actually pretty good at Leeds and Cas at the back end of this season really and it’s the sort of similar running half that Croft is. Not saying they’re on the same level but at least it’s not going to that hard to gel Echo that, anyone who puts on a solly shirt will always have my backing, no matter how they've played for another club, clean slate go again |
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Post by Carnster on Oct 5, 2023 13:54:11 GMT
Will support anyone who puts on the Salford shirt. He was actually pretty good at Leeds and Cas at the back end of this season really and it’s the sort of similar running half that Croft is. Not saying they’re on the same level but at least it’s not going to that hard to gel Certainly not the worst option. I think people are too eager to judge players who have played different styles under different coaches without thinking about how they'll fair under our style of play. Austen was a very good player under Ricky Stewart, another coach that lets his spine dictate how they see things. Sure he isn't Croft or Hastings, but people are quick to forget that those two players came over here with very little reputation intact. Hastings was an uncomfortable nomad in his youth and nobody would touch Croft after having a similar fall from grace. Talent is permanent however, it just takes the right environment to bring it out. Salford is a good environment for players, and I think this may be our biggest draw with undecided potential signings. If Austen comes then I'll support him. The only thing that worries is age and injuries, but I guess we have the young lad from Leeds coming in as well. |
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Post by kilop on Oct 5, 2023 15:41:53 GMT
Well looks like we will get some money for brodie unlike when hastings left. Hopefully tie us over for a bit. Now over to you mr blease to find us another gem  |
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