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Post by Carnster on Sept 15, 2023 5:50:29 GMT
SARL is about as reliable as Paul Cullan's honest work on the Match review panel... But beyond that Carnster what do you think of IMG's efforts so far, and does this strike you as making RL a more valuable and sellable product in England? To be honest, I don't know. Are they slowly drip feeding everything into the game or is there a big announcement/re-brand/dawn of a new era kind of thing happening? It's very RL that nobody really knows. |
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Post by JJR on Sept 15, 2023 9:22:24 GMT
Bit like our Club really🤣
As usual C, IMG will want to come in and change things commercially for the better for the sport but the bigger clubs will just take on board the things that suit them….so probably C the usual shambles and we’ll have another change in 5 years when IMG get fed up, sadly. I think the Clubs have rejected the dropping of the extra, pointless fixtures, already
Really we need 14 clubs in SL with no relegation for 5 years to stabilise the sport…but then of course clubs would have to find more money themselves away from handouts…the sport sadly is on its knees and gradually falling flat because of self centredness in my view, whereas RU is sweeping the world.
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Post by russ on Sept 15, 2023 12:44:56 GMT
Bit like our Club really🤣 As usual C, IMG will want to come in and change things commercially for the better for the sport but the bigger clubs will just take on board the things that suit them….so probably C the usual shambles and we’ll have another change in 5 years when IMG get fed up, sadly. I think the Clubs have rejected the dropping of the extra, pointless fixtures, already Really we need 14 clubs in SL with no relegation for 5 years to stabilise the sport…but then of course clubs would have to find more money themselves away from handouts…the sport sadly is on its knees and gradually falling flat because of self centredness in my view, whereas RU is sweeping the world. A few things there JJR.
You say they will change things for the better commercially but so far we've lost money from Sky, they've negotiated a deal that give more product for less readies,and beyond that their efforts seem all about changing stuff inside the game so the evidence is sort of negligible, negative and poor!
I agree about 14 clubs and P&R.
The myth has always been that poorer clubs hold the sport back when as you pointed out the history of RL shows it to be top clubs which reject stuff.
The monies RL gains are not handouts though they are what the sport gains through its merchandising of the product or presenting a case for financial streams.
ru is a by product of the people who started it, invented it's origin and have lied, cheated and bluffed their way to a position they now hold so they're hardly a model to be imitated.
There are far better commercial sporting models more akin to RL than Vichy will ever be in spite of the shared origin and outward similarities.
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Post by JJR on Sept 15, 2023 14:25:58 GMT
R have a look at the way RU has developed worldwide 7s comps to establish a base and see how they are now developing that base into 15 aside teams…we go for Toronto etc as lone teams at 13 aside level
I don’t think we’ve 3ver had a plan in the past…just knee jerk
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Post by russ on Sept 15, 2023 16:52:32 GMT
R have a look at the way RU has developed worldwide 7s comps to establish a base and see how they are now developing that base into 15 aside teams…we go for Toronto etc as lone teams at 13 aside level I don’t think we’ve 3ver had a plan in the past…just knee jerk ru is a by product of the people who started it, invented it's origin and have lied, cheated and bluffed their way to a position they now hold so they're hardly a model to be imitated. As I said there are other sporting commercial ways to develop JJR.
If you only want to look at their successes that's fine.
You're correct about the Kneejerk though but that's more about the finances that have never been available to RL rather than anyone's ability to produce a plan.
And one of the reasons for this has been RL's disappearance from the media stage largely brought about by the friends of guess which sport.
And you didn't really put forward any reasoning for IMG to be a success or not.
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Post by JJR on Sept 15, 2023 17:14:32 GMT
Why should IMG succeed…nobody will know but all you can do is look at track records
RFL a shambles…as an example look at the franchise time with its range of regulations when us Leigh Wigan Widnes Hull etc sold their grounds to comply with their ‘rules’…Cas Wakey HKR didn’t bother…still have their grounds and and consequently more ability to develop and grow…just watch HKR…there were no checks no enforcement etc…just let’s try something else
IMG…you can look their track record up…they develop a strategic plan which everyone amends, agrees and then is delivered and measured…but of course the RFL (or powerful teams) having agreed are now wanting to change..and so the circus rolls on
And our Community Club…they have the money from the fans now and not a peep..it’s Rugby League
Why has their been little interest, no planning, no investment…that lies at the door of non planning self interest both within clubs and outside clubs…HKR seem to be on the right track if you look at what they’ve done and where they’re going. Us …it’s always somebody else’s fault…the fans the zcouncil, the RFL, non investors etc
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Post by russ on Sept 15, 2023 20:26:28 GMT
Why should IMG succeed…nobody will know but all you can do is look at track records RFL a shambles…as an example look at the franchise time with its range of regulations when us Leigh Wigan Widnes Hull etc sold their grounds to comply with their ‘rules’…Cas Wakey HKR didn’t bother…still have their grounds and and consequently more ability to develop and grow…just watch HKR…there were no checks no enforcement etc…just let’s try something else IMG…you can look their track record up…they develop a strategic plan which everyone amends, agrees and then is delivered and measured…but of course the RFL (or powerful teams) having agreed are now wanting to change..and so the circus rolls on And our Community Club…they have the money from the fans now and not a peep..it’s Rugby League Why has their been little interest, no planning, no investment…that lies at the door of non planning self interest both within clubs and outside clubs…HKR seem to be on the right track if you look at what they’ve done and where they’re going. Us …it’s always somebody else’s fault…the fans the zcouncil, the RFL, non investors etc While we agree on the RFL's track record we don't agree on the causes.
You do seem intent on finding SRD wanting at times yet your criteria of an owner who invests goes missing when you compare SRD and HKR!
You say we blame everyone and everything else but you're using the top clubs as an excuse for IMG failure.
Their track record, I did look up this, is questionable and smacks of smoke and mirrors and self congratulatory.
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Post by JJR on Sept 16, 2023 6:35:20 GMT
So what do you suggest Russ to get this sport sorted?
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Post by tony13 on Sept 16, 2023 10:19:12 GMT
So what do you suggest Russ to get this sport sorted? Play and pray! Play the euromillions lottery and pray to your God. Slightly 'tongue-in-cheek', but the problem is, as it always was, money. |
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Post by kilop on Sept 16, 2023 20:35:06 GMT
Not read any of this or paid too much attention to the deal tbh.
Is it a case of less money and sky get every match?
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