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Mozzer
Nov 22, 2016 18:12:43 GMT
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Post by dixon13 on Nov 22, 2016 18:12:43 GMT
I am sorry to say Mozzer has gone.The week after the meeting at the the A J Bell.
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Mozzer
Nov 22, 2016 18:23:54 GMT
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Post by rednotdead on Nov 22, 2016 18:23:54 GMT
Sorry to see him go. We need a name like his associated with the club to help attract players going forward. It couldn't have hurt to get him involved in the coaching set up either. Ex players with his experience are hard to find. When Marwan said he was cutting costs I didn't expect Moz to be part of it
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Mozzer
Nov 22, 2016 18:37:15 GMT
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Post by dixon13 on Nov 22, 2016 18:37:15 GMT
Sorry to see him go. We need a name like his associated with the club to help attract players going forward. It couldn't have hurt to get him involved in the coaching set up either. Ex players with his experience are hard to find. When Marwan said he was cutting costs I didn't expect Moz to be part of it I doubt he did.
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Mozzer
Nov 26, 2016 10:10:27 GMT
Post by russ on Nov 26, 2016 10:10:27 GMT
Sorry to see him go. We need a name like his associated with the club to help attract players going forward. It couldn't have hurt to get him involved in the coaching set up either. Ex players with his experience are hard to find. When Marwan said he was cutting costs I didn't expect Moz to be part of it I think you need to take the word Mozza (who we were all glad to see in THE shirt) out and put cost cutting + club ambassador together = expensive luxury!
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Mozzer
Nov 26, 2016 12:47:50 GMT
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Post by kilop on Nov 26, 2016 12:47:50 GMT
I keep hearing about how the Dr saved the club and how much money he's put in the club. But has he really or has he just put it in players pockets? Investment in the club seems minimal , especially now we have ditched the academy ( which is scandalous).
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Post by Carnster on Nov 26, 2016 13:05:56 GMT
I keep hearing about how the Dr saved the club and how much money he's put in the club. But has he really or has he just put it in players pockets? Investment in the club seems minimal , especially now we have ditched the academy ( which is scandalous). If people don't turn up for games then we have nothing to invest in. He could have invested loads into areas that the fans would make use of, but we need more fans. No point in investing then nobody turning up. The running costs at the stadium are quite high, which also doesn't help. Then you have to have a good backroom set-up to support the first team, which in turn needs plenty of money to keep and attract players and keep them in prime condition. All this is being done, in the main, by him personally. He said he's not a bottomless pit which is fair enough. What we really need, is a season of decent progress on the pitch and no dramas to get more people through the door. The more money that comes in, the better for everyone. He has certainly contributed to our current position with off-field antics that nearly saw us out of the league last season. But those antics and bad decisions are hopefully behind him, and what we really need to do is try and get more people into the stadium before we'll see any improvement.
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Mozzer
Nov 26, 2016 13:45:26 GMT
Post by bonitared on Nov 26, 2016 13:45:26 GMT
All this is being done, in the main, by him personally. Carnster,do you know this to be the case,or are you making an assumption. There is a school of thought that,although he's undoubtedly kept the club going in the way he's acted as a figurehead,he's put very little of his own money in, and why should he ? I've no idea which is correct
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Mozzer
Nov 26, 2016 14:54:21 GMT
Post by Carnster on Nov 26, 2016 14:54:21 GMT
All this is being done, in the main, by him personally. Carnster,do you know this to be the case,or are you making an assumption. There is a school of thought that,although he's undoubtedly kept the club going in the way he's acted as a figurehead,he's put very little of his own money in, and why should he ? I've no idea which is correct Someone is paying for the rent. Someone's paying the wages, and making funds available to spend on transfers. Training equipment. Recovery equipment. Hospital stays for injured players/surgery. Wages of backroom staff. Probably lots of expenses we can't even think of. etc etc. A couple of thousand fans paying for three quarters of a year are going to cover very little. I just can't see how anyone could think that he'd be sat there contributing very little. Our outgoings will be considerably more than our income. Just my thoughts on the whole thing. Common sense should be applied, although we live in a society run by imbeciles, with people believing any old rubbish. So you never know... I'd be happy to be corrected if others know more than me.
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Mozzer
Nov 26, 2016 15:06:18 GMT
Post by bonitared on Nov 26, 2016 15:06:18 GMT
Sky ?
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Mozzer
Nov 26, 2016 15:44:00 GMT
Post by Carnster on Nov 26, 2016 15:44:00 GMT
1.8 million just about covers the cap for each club. This isn't a great deal of money in the scheme of things. The estimate for NRL Clubs operating costs averages at around 8-10 Million dollars. So if you say a SL Club operates at even a small fraction of any of the NRL Clubs, say 5-6 million or even 3-4 million, you can see that there's a lot of money that needs to be found. You also have to think of what he inherited for the Club to exist. He has to find £327,804 a year to pay off creditors. That's £27000 a month. The most expensive stadium rent in the league which is due to rise by 40% next year, according to MK. Add in inherited debt after the main liability and it's an expensive business. It's unlikely that he's sat on his backside doing nothing financially.
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Mozzer
Nov 26, 2016 15:48:45 GMT
Post by russ on Nov 26, 2016 15:48:45 GMT
Carnster,do you know this to be the case,or are you making an assumption. There is a school of thought that,although he's undoubtedly kept the club going in the way he's acted as a figurehead,he's put very little of his own money in, and why should he ? I've no idea which is correct Someone is paying for the rent. Someone's paying the wages, and making funds available to spend on transfers. Training equipment. Recovery equipment. Hospital stays for injured players/surgery. Wages of backroom staff. Probably lots of expenses we can't even think of. etc etc. A couple of thousand fans paying for three quarters of a year are going to cover very little. I just can't see how anyone could think that he'd be sat there contributing very little. Our outgoings will be considerably more than our income. Just my thoughts on the whole thing. Common sense should be applied, although we live in a society run by imbeciles, with people believing any old rubbish. So you never know... I'd be happy to be corrected if others know more than me. The made up stuff, the imaginary events and fairy tale facts are now more important than real facts, real research and even reason or logic and 2016 is the prime example of this but it's been arriving for a while. Arguing against the rubbish people believe is like playing Canute on Blackpool Pleasure Beach. And if you're unwise enough to do so just be prepared to find yourself the victim of fictional and make believe stuff about what you said or didn't! Watch out Carnster!
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Mozzer
Nov 26, 2016 15:54:46 GMT
Post by bonitared on Nov 26, 2016 15:54:46 GMT
Russ, I'm being a bit thick here but I don't really understand your cryptic comments. I thought the stadium cost has,in some way,been reduced. If he's fully on track with his repayments to creditors it'd be a pleasant surprise and good news for the Wilkinson family. I hope he is. It's a guess but I suspect his financial input has been less than commonly thought. We're all guessing because,rightly,it's nothing to do with us !
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Mozzer
Nov 26, 2016 17:18:33 GMT
Post by Carnster on Nov 26, 2016 17:18:33 GMT
Someone is paying for the rent. Someone's paying the wages, and making funds available to spend on transfers. Training equipment. Recovery equipment. Hospital stays for injured players/surgery. Wages of backroom staff. Probably lots of expenses we can't even think of. etc etc. A couple of thousand fans paying for three quarters of a year are going to cover very little. I just can't see how anyone could think that he'd be sat there contributing very little. Our outgoings will be considerably more than our income. Just my thoughts on the whole thing. Common sense should be applied, although we live in a society run by imbeciles, with people believing any old rubbish. So you never know... I'd be happy to be corrected if others know more than me. The made up stuff, the imaginary events and fairy tale facts are now more important than real facts, real research and even reason or logic and 2016 is the prime example of this but it's been arriving for a while. Arguing against the rubbish people believe is like playing Canute on Blackpool Pleasure Beach. And if you're unwise enough to do so just be prepared to find yourself the victim of fictional and make believe stuff about what you said or didn't! Watch out Carnster! Most of us on here spent enough time reading the ravings of a flat-earth creationist for far too long. So we should be well equipped to sift through nonsense!
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Mozzer
Nov 26, 2016 17:22:25 GMT
Post by russ on Nov 26, 2016 17:22:25 GMT
Russ, I'm being a bit thick here but I don't really understand your cryptic comments. I thought the stadium cost has,in some way,been reduced. If he's fully on track with his repayments to creditors it'd be a pleasant surprise and good news for the Wilkinson family. I hope he is. It's a guess but I suspect his financial input has been less than commonly thought. We're all guessing because,rightly,it's nothing to do with us ! Yeah when I'm annoyed I get mystical. The problem is I think, now he's not making any noise people are looking for something quiet to be wrong. What has been commonly thought is the problem here. That is not his fault and neither are all the other things commonly thought. We still have a club and that is too often understated for one reason or another. And if we didn't have a club and the meeting at the church was all we had left, just how much would the Wilkinson family have had to look forward to then?
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Mozzer
Nov 28, 2016 12:20:49 GMT
Post by jgr on Nov 28, 2016 12:20:49 GMT
Koukash in lying shocker. Why are any of you remotely surprised? Mozza was informed by text during his holiday a number of weeks ago that the club could not afford to continue paying him for the position he held within the club. Instead we offered him a pay-when-appeared deal which obviously wasn't acceptable to Mozza who has a young family to provide for.
I don't understand why Marwan continually lies when many of us know the truth. It makes him look worse each and every time.
I couldn't believe the bare face cheek of the man to say what he did at the last fans forum but as usual the vast majority of fans lapped up his lies and believed what he said.
For what it is worth I agree we probably cannot afford the luxury of a club ambassador, but just be honest about the fact. Shame we cant find somewhere else for Mozza within the club as he surely has a huge amount to offer the club. I cant think of a more popular English RL player.
He has interest from other clubs who will no doubt put his experience to good use.
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