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Post by salfordkeys on Nov 12, 2021 11:13:23 GMT
New poster to the board and thought I'd start a thread concentrating on Moor Lane (assuming it's the only real option)
The fans forum suggested a number of challenges with the move, the biggest being lack of training facilities and capacity. I expect either Sale or Salford CFC would use the existing training facilities at AJB when they take over so these would probably go anyway. This is the biggest issue as there aren't many options in Salford.
The Capacity is a bit of a Red Herring as the Club has not exceeded a 4,000 average since the move to AJB but if there is potential to get to 6500 then it seems this will avoid any min standard issues.
Parking and Travel will put some people off so solutions should be planned over the next 12 months or so to mitigate this.
So in summary we should concentrate on making productive suggestions so the move can be felt as a positive step rather than a decline.
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Post by themaskedavenger on Nov 12, 2021 13:13:19 GMT
I expect either Sale or Salford CFC would use the existing training facilities at AJB when they take over so these would probably go anyway. so where do SCFC currently train? google search brings back the old City training at Carrington, but another result suggests the Cliff? pesumably if they start using the facilities at AJB then their existing site will be available - although again, cost and location are bound to be factors
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Nov 12, 2021 13:17:21 GMT
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Post by dixon13 on Nov 12, 2021 13:17:21 GMT
First of all welcome to the forum.We are going to Moor Lane if certain things can be sorted out I think we have all accepted that but the part about the Red Herring yes it is probably right about crowds, but surely where ever we go we have got to try to increase the fan base not just accept what we have got if that's the thinking surely we might as well go in the championship now.What is a fact is their is know way you can get more at Moor Lane.I will go because I have always gone, but I can't see any positives if I am missing something so be it.
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Post by JJR on Nov 12, 2021 13:27:02 GMT
Think the positive is Dixon that it’s not good but it could be worse.
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Post by Admin on Nov 12, 2021 13:45:47 GMT
New poster to the board and thought I'd start a thread concentrating on Moor Lane (assuming it's the only real option) The fans forum suggested a number of challenges with the move, the biggest being lack of training facilities and capacity. I expect either Sale or Salford CFC would use the existing training facilities at AJB when they take over so these would probably go anyway. This is the biggest issue as there aren't many options in Salford. The Capacity is a bit of a Red Herring as the Club has not exceeded a 4,000 average since the move to AJB but if there is potential to get to 6500 then it seems this will avoid any min standard issues. Parking and Travel will put some people off so solutions should be planned over the next 12 months or so to mitigate this. So in summary we should concentrate on making productive suggestions so the move can be felt as a positive step rather than a decline. Welcome to the board salfordkeys
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Post by stadge on Nov 12, 2021 17:07:06 GMT
New poster to the board and thought I'd start a thread concentrating on Moor Lane (assuming it's the only real option) The fans forum suggested a number of challenges with the move, the biggest being lack of training facilities and capacity. I expect either Sale or Salford CFC would use the existing training facilities at AJB when they take over so these would probably go anyway. This is the biggest issue as there aren't many options in Salford. The Capacity is a bit of a Red Herring as the Club has not exceeded a 4,000 average since the move to AJB but if there is potential to get to 6500 then it seems this will avoid any min standard issues. Parking and Travel will put some people off so solutions should be planned over the next 12 months or so to mitigate this. So in summary we should concentrate on making productive suggestions so the move can be felt as a positive step rather than a decline. Welcome to the Forum. In terms of Salford City training the last I heard it was over Boothstown way adjacent to a school.
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Post by critchley3 on Nov 12, 2021 18:18:00 GMT
New poster to the board and thought I'd start a thread concentrating on Moor Lane (assuming it's the only real option) The fans forum suggested a number of challenges with the move, the biggest being lack of training facilities and capacity. I expect either Sale or Salford CFC would use the existing training facilities at AJB when they take over so these would probably go anyway. This is the biggest issue as there aren't many options in Salford. The Capacity is a bit of a Red Herring as the Club has not exceeded a 4,000 average since the move to AJB but if there is potential to get to 6500 then it seems this will avoid any min standard issues. Parking and Travel will put some people off so solutions should be planned over the next 12 months or so to mitigate this. So in summary we should concentrate on making productive suggestions so the move can be felt as a positive step rather than a decline. Welcome Salfordkeys ! Although nearer the AJBell I still believe helping Eccles upgrade their facilities for which I believe they have an RFl grant will help both clubs.We get use of the facilities during the week.Eccles have use of them in them in the evening and weekends when they need them.Leeds have a similar training ground set up with MiIford ARLFC.
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Post by redunderthebed on Nov 12, 2021 20:57:08 GMT
Yes Critchley3 Salford City Roosters (as Eccles have been called for 20 years 😉) are helping the Reds out with a training pitch. Nothing sorted long term yet but taking about reserves/academy maybe training or playing there sometimes, 1st team using it for a little while as work being done on pitches at AJ Bell I understand. Might be an option post move
Fantastic new club house there thanks to finding from RL World Cup, Salford Council (they own it, the club lease it) and lots of fundraising by the club. Will be a great place for a pint or a coffee whether before games at the AJ Bell, watching the roosters or any of the other afternoons/evenings it’s open.
It opens next week. Big plans at the Roosters. Exciting times
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Post by JJR on Nov 13, 2021 10:20:27 GMT
Moor Lane apparently the only option Why ever the fans are voting in the New Year about something they’ll have no real in-depth knowledge of is beyond me; unless the Club wants to say ‘ you voted to go there’
So get due diligence sorted, identify what needs to be done, identify gym and training facilities , get it costed, sort who’s paying and get on with it. If it keeps carrying on like this we’ll be in 2023 and still talking about it
No idea why we’re wasting time, unless it’s continuous negotiation but in any case all the above info will be needed. So let’s move forward and stop faff8ng.
This is getting tedious going round the same loop over and over again. Don’t think there’s much else to say.
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Post by Carnster on Nov 13, 2021 10:39:42 GMT
If anything in modern society has taught us, letting the population vote on anything is a bad idea.
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Post by JJR on Nov 13, 2021 11:03:17 GMT
Especially C if those voting don’t have knowledge of the full facts or of the negotiation process.
If the self elected officials need help from the supporters then let th3m form and fully inform a hand picked group to help but whatever happens get the Negotiation and Due Diligence Groups moving and get on with it. Time really is of the essence.
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Post by stadge on Nov 13, 2021 11:21:30 GMT
Especially C if those voting don’t have knowledge of the full facts or of the negotiation process. If the self elected officials need help from the supporters then let th3m form and fully inform a hand picked group to help but whatever happens get the Negotiation and Due Diligence Groups moving and get on with it. Time really is of the essence. Moor Lane does seem the only option. However, surely alarm bells must be ringing at the club. On the Devil in the Detail podcast Paul King mentioned that season ticket sales have been slow. Inpart this was down to waiting for the announcement of the new Coach but also people holding back to see if we are playing at AJ Bell. This suggests many people will not commit if / when we move to Moor Lane. I am also sceptical about the capacity for redevelopment at Moor Lane. Salford City faced huge opposition to their initial redevelopment plans. The ground also sits between conservation areas. Whilst appearing the only credible option it offers as many challenges to the club as the AJ Bell.
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Post by bonitared on Nov 13, 2021 12:23:50 GMT
If anything in modern society has taught us, letting the population vote on anything is a bad idea. Dictatorship much preferred,eh ?
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Post by bimbam68 on Nov 13, 2021 13:57:17 GMT
The more I think about this move, the more costs involved come to mind. The little things like insurance on the stadium and ever fluctuating energy costs. These were things that were probably rolled into the rent we pay (or try to).
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Post by osrd on Nov 13, 2021 14:28:03 GMT
Moor Lane apparently the only option Why ever the fans are voting in the New Year about something they’ll have no real in-depth knowledge of is beyond me; unless the Club wants to say ‘ you voted to go there’ So get due diligence sorted, identify what needs to be done, identify gym and training facilities , get it costed, sort who’s paying and get on with it. If it keeps carrying on like this we’ll be in 2023 and still talking about it No idea why we’re wasting time, unless it’s continuous negotiation but in any case all the above info will be needed. So let’s move forward and stop faff8ng. This is getting tedious going round the same loop over and over again. Don’t think there’s much else to say. Unless I went to a different meeting than some people as I got the impression that due diligence is being sorted, what is required at Moor Lane has been identified, work is on going over the gym and training facilities, costs are being sort along with the rent, the length of the lease etc and we will be carbon neutral before any other Superleague club😀
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