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Post by dixon13 on Jul 4, 2019 22:55:07 GMT
You can be poor and we were.But you can defend for your life we didn’t our line defence is woeful. Huddersfield were more enthusiastic and deserved the win.I don't like saying it but we missed Lui for his organising.Lolohea does not give us that although he had a decent game.We are now in a relegation scrap for sure.
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Post by prestwichred on Jul 5, 2019 0:54:12 GMT
You can be poor and we were.But you can defend for your life we didn’t our line defence is woeful. Huddersfield were more enthusiastic and deserved the win.I don't like saying it but we missed Lui for his organising.Lolohea does not give us that although he had a decent game.We are now in a relegation scrap for sure. And the first blame to Lolohea. Lui would have change nothing tonight get a grip. That performance tonight was bad all round. |
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Post by red54 on Jul 5, 2019 4:26:25 GMT
Just a bad day where we gave away silly penalties, didn’t tackle hard, wore the wrong kit😉, was on telly and a crap ref 😉 all the usual problems, I think we thought they were easy beats, we just need to move on and thrash Warrington😉
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Post by osrd on Jul 5, 2019 6:37:06 GMT
Dixon is back is back on form.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 6:44:41 GMT
You can be poor and we were.But you can defend for your life we didn’t our line defence is woeful. Huddersfield were more enthusiastic and deserved the win.I don't like saying it but we missed Lui for his organising.Lolohea does not give us that although he had a decent game.We are now in a relegation scrap for sure. And the first blame to Lolohea. Lui would have change nothing tonight get a grip. That performance tonight was bad all round. He just said he had a decent game - that is more than many are saying on Twitter. |
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Post by lemmy on Jul 5, 2019 7:16:30 GMT
Pretty poor game all around. We started off okay, but it soon went downhill - some of our defence was pitiful at times.
I think we might struggle getting into the top 5 now. How many more wins do we think we'll need to stay up? It's hard to say with how unpredictable this season has been. I'd rather it not go to the last game of the season vs Hull KR though!
Thinking about it more positively, there's only last night, the first Leeds home game, and maybe the Magic Weekend where I think we've played really badly, which over the course of the season isn't too bad I suppose. If we pick up a bit of form again, and with home games against an inconsistent Catalans, Hull KR, Huddersfield again and London away, then I'm not too concerned about us going down. I think London away might be crucial.
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Post by scoot on Jul 5, 2019 7:51:19 GMT
Pretty poor game all around. We started off okay, but it soon went downhill - some of our defence was pitiful at times. I think we might struggle getting into the top 5 now. How many more wins do we think we'll need to stay up? It's hard to say with how unpredictable this season has been. I'd rather it not go to the last game of the season vs Hull KR though! Thinking about it more positively, there's only last night, the first Leeds home game, and maybe the Magic Weekend where I think we've played really badly, which over the course of the season isn't too bad I suppose. If we pick up a bit of form again, and with home games against an inconsistent Catalans, Hull KR, Huddersfield again and London away, then I'm not too concerned about us going down. I think London away might be crucial. Attack disorganised, got back to 5 drives then kick, missed Lui Massively, could be our slide to the bottom . I know we got a fee for him but it could cost us more in the long run.Tui Had a good game but to early for him slot into system. On face book some said they thought. Evalds Was bad defensively , I think his defence is ok, it's his positional position that's at fault. Best to hope for is 11th |
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Post by earlybath on Jul 5, 2019 8:16:23 GMT
Usual negativity on here. We have to do something really daft to be relegated. I was more concerned about our attacking plans. Watto should keep showing the Perpignan video to show them by getting it wide we will score tries - 5 drives and an up and under (Nobles ONLY tactic) just wont do.
Inu looks ready for retirement. If we cant move Olpherts on now then he is better than Johnson who is a turnstile in defence.
Spoke to Welham who I think will stay but the daily 4 hour drive could tell & as for Junior he wants to play, is fit and surely worth a spot in the 17. Its not a money problem by the way Mr Dixon.
Positives - Lolo looks classy and hope will gel soon - Murray possibly back & Walker too next week.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 8:18:09 GMT
As bad as we were, we were 6 points behind with around 25 mins left, when Lussick (I think) just had to kick the ball dead. Instead he tried to leave it and they scored. Also a couple of mistakes from Lolohea in attack in the 2nd half when we were threatening to get back into it were costly.
The lack of props was again the main weak link though. No surprise their hooker was MOM as we were knackered through the middle so all they had to do was run from dummy half and they made yards every time.
Same as HKR at home in the cup overall. Players and fans thinking we just had to turn up to win and we inevitably get turned over.
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Post by prestwichred on Jul 5, 2019 9:14:12 GMT
Watson has to take some blame on this.
His tactic of one man rugby and then a high kick does not work in today’s game.
We have the players to hurt teams but just did not use them last night.
A complete change in tactics needed for Warrington away.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 9:39:24 GMT
It's a bit harsh to say that we play one man rugby when we've got the 3rd best attack in the league.
If anything that's how Hudds won last night by simply running through the middle at a tired forward pack. Out of the few of chances we had to build pressure we either threw it into touch, knocked on early in the count or gave away an interception, none of which are the traits of one man rugby tactics.
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Post by SalfordSlim on Jul 5, 2019 9:48:21 GMT
And the first blame to Lolohea. Lui would have change nothing tonight get a grip. That performance tonight was bad all round. He just said he had a decent game - that is more than many are saying on Twitter. Tbh I don't normally back Dixon up but he did say Lolohea had a decent game so not sure why people are jumping on his back.😂 We were just extremely flat last night and looked jaded. Backline was pedestrian and we had 2 wingers who have been out injured for a while playing outside 2 of the slowest centres in the league. Pack didn't really run it's weight (although I think we can absolve Gil from any blame as he never gives less than 110%). Throw in 2 halves who have been together barely a week and we serve up a bit of a shocker. We just have to regroup and move on or Wire will absolutely thump us.😵 Ok now need to get a couple of things off my chest.... 1) The Lui situation. Couple of people were ranting about it on the way out last night so I'm going to put this in capitals in case they read this forum. WE HAVE NO MONEY WE HAVE NO MONEY WE HAVE NO MONEY LUI MOVING TO LEEDS WAS A BALANCING THE BOOKS MOVE AND UNLESS A COUPLE OF THOUSAND EXTRA FANS ATTEND GAMES WHO THE F*CK IS GOING TO FUND THE SIGNING/KEEPING OF TOP PLAYERS? Seriously, how f*cking stupid are some of our fans?🙄 2) Can we stop being so negative please. Watson and this group of players have generally been fantastic this season and they have my full backing. With a small squad we're gonna have the odd hiccup and last night was one of them. One defeat and all of a sudden we're staring at relegation when the fact is we're nowhere near the worst team in the league. Let's get behind the lads and get them over the line with a couple more wins and then we can pray for a miracle next season. 3) Whoever that d*ckhead was having a go at Jackson last night in South Stand, you seriously need to have a long look in the mirror. Oldish fella who I think is a regular away supporter as well. He spent a good 2-3 minutes late in the game ranting at him and it's "fans" like him that put the rest of us in a bad light. Jacko tackled himself to a standstill and whilst it wasn't his best attacking display he was still one of the few players who can be absolved of any blame for that defeat. Why, as soon as someone is rumoured to be leaving the club do fans think it's acceptable to tell them to "f*ck off to Wigan/CAS etc etc"? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 9:56:26 GMT
I've let this settle before posting.
Hastings in the 2nd half cost us a couple of decent attacking chances with bad kicks, there's no point landing a high ball 20 meters out when we don't have forward momentum to get over the line, both times Inu caught the ball and was simply swamped.
Johnson is no more than the answer than Olpherts, you could see him busting a gut but he was still an over on the way to the try line.
Big Ben had his best game yet, I fully expect to announce he has signed for someone else in the very near future.
Those who decried Dudson when we signed him all I can say is I TOLD YOU SO, he can't though get through the work load he did last night without getting injured.
Talking of injury any update on the Huddersfield player who went of on the stretcher? it looked serious.
Thought Lolohea did quite well, different player to Lui so to comp-are them is unfair on him. Depending on the halve he plays with next season I'm happy with the deal we've struck.
What on earth is Watson thinking bring on Tomkins as the impact hooker? Start with him for 20 minutes and make sure he flogs himself and then bring on Lussick, if we've got it won with 15/20 to go bring him back on otherwise Lussick needs to stay on.
Sorry but if Junior is fit he needs to play, he might not be the best or fastest but he brings a certain team spirit and leads by example.
I wonder if Lannon has been told he needs to step up his footwork just before contact as constantly last night he was shimmying just before he got hit, good in theory but in practice he lost momentum.
Shall we say there were some odd ref decisions last night.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 10:10:53 GMT
I've let this settle before posting. Hastings in the 2nd half cost us a couple of decent attacking chances with bad kicks, there's no point landing a high ball 20 meters out when we don't have forward momentum to get over the line, both times Inu caught the ball and was simply swamped. Johnson is no more than the answer than Olpherts, you could see him busting a gut but he was still an over on the way to the try line. Big Ben had his best game yet, I fully expect to announce he has signed for someone else in the very near future. Those who decried Dudson when we signed him all I can say is I TOLD YOU SO, he can't though get through the work load he did last night without getting injured. Talking of injury any update on the Huddersfield player who went of on the stretcher? it looked serious. Thought Lolohea did quite well, different player to Lui so to comp-are them is unfair on him. Depending on the halve he plays with next season I'm happy with the deal we've struck. What on earth is Watson thinking bring on Tomkins as the impact hooker? Start with him for 20 minutes and make sure he flogs himself and then bring on Lussick, if we've got it won with 15/20 to go bring him back on otherwise Lussick needs to stay on. Sorry but if Junior is fit he needs to play, he might not be the best or fastest but he brings a certain team spirit and leads by example. I wonder if Lannon has been told he needs to step up his footwork just before contact as constantly last night he was shimmying just before he got hit, good in theory but in practice he lost momentum. Shall we say there were some odd ref decisions last night. The Huddersfield hooker tweeted he was fine right after the game mate. Just got his head caught in an awkward position. |
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Post by SalfordSlim on Jul 5, 2019 10:21:17 GMT
MR... 2 or 3 of the knock on decisions that went against us were a joke. One clearly went backwards 2 or 3 yards. There was also a knock on by their full back from a bomb that he gave against us. Hicks is just incompetent, end of.
Wasn't happy at the try given to Boris Johnson's lovechild (English?) but my mate said watching it at home on Sky he thought it was a try despite to all us in the South Stand it appearing to be a blatant double movement.
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