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Post by Chico on Jun 18, 2018 11:36:09 GMT
I still don't understand it, what happens when Rossler has had enough or just wants out, - who decides who he passes control to ? -the club isn't his to 'sell' or transfer, it's supposed to belong to the supporters ?
Salford RD Holdings is the trust that owns the club. As is, it does not belong to the supporters per se – perhaps this will change with some kind of equal share issue in the future – but the directors are supporters.
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Post by Chico on Jan 22, 2018 9:56:17 GMT
The club has been consistently awful in this area for its entire history. We are always late to the table when it comes to adopting modern media. I think this is a little unfair. Salford were one of the first clubs to have a website in the 1990s. They have also had the expertise to deliver this kind of stuff throughout the years. The problem, which you have already alluded to, is that they have rarely stuck with any of the initiatives. Possibly because the back office is minuscule compared to other clubs, but certainly underspending on marketing and allocated resource.
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Post by Chico on Jan 18, 2018 16:09:32 GMT
Going on the Friday, late afternoon til late (probably).
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Post by Chico on Jan 11, 2018 12:45:25 GMT
Yes, at the season launch event before the game.
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Post by Chico on Jan 9, 2018 10:23:37 GMT
Am I missing something or are we in danger of a points deduction ? - Whilst the club hasn't gone into administration, one company with big debt has been wound up and a new company has been formed, without taking on any of the debt ? I'd like to think the new board got some sort of assurance from the RFL that there would be no points deduction before progressing the takeover/sale/change of ownership/ whatever it is. The RFL had to agree to the new structure, so you’d imagine they are fine with it without penalty.
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Post by Chico on Jan 9, 2018 9:53:50 GMT
His company which owns the club, and the debt is ceasing to trade. That company has been struck-off too.
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Post by Chico on Jan 9, 2018 9:42:14 GMT
Marwan has resigned as a director of the club. The alert has just come through from Companies House.
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Post by Chico on Dec 11, 2017 14:00:15 GMT
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Post by Chico on Dec 6, 2017 15:34:57 GMT
It’s a bit like Seattle Seahawks.
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Post by Chico on Nov 10, 2017 8:38:38 GMT
The club did look at significant renovations of The Willows in the 1980s and 90s. They were even considering a plastic pitch in the mid-80s. They first muted leaving The Willows in 1999 – David Tarry confirmed this years later – possibly motivated by the RFL’s future plans but also perhaps issues with what they could do with the ground in Weaste. I don't think leaving the Willows was muted in 1999. Quite the contrary, in fact. They were quite vociferous about it. David Tarry said as much in a meeting with supporters about the then new stadium plans with Howard Clague and a chap from Arup.
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Post by Chico on Nov 9, 2017 16:19:32 GMT
The club did look at significant renovations of The Willows in the 1980s and 90s. They were even considering a plastic pitch in the mid-80s. They first muted leaving The Willows in 1999 – David Tarry confirmed this years later – possibly motivated by the RFL’s future plans but also perhaps issues with what they could do with the ground in Weaste.
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Post by Chico on Nov 2, 2017 14:59:25 GMT
My feeling is that if the ST is have any real value it should not be a vehicle to fund the Foundation, as before, but should be ambitious to totally assist in the redevelopment of the Club. So as you say guys if it becomes open and ambitious with some new blood people will join, if the closed shop exists it will remain as Forever Reds did. Forever Reds was not a closed shop – it’s against the constitution to be. However, personally, I agree with you that the supporters trust should go further than assisting the foundation. It should make some demands on better communication, have a say in the process of who is selected as the fan on the trustees, and look towards registering the stadium as an asset of community value (if it isn’t already). As members, we can suggest these as motions and they can be voted upon. If it passes, the process happens. If it loses, it loses, but at least you have exercised your vote and had your say.
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Post by Chico on Nov 1, 2017 13:32:45 GMT
The Manchester > Girona flight looks like the most cost-effective way to get to the game. Can anyone tell me what's the best way to travel from Girona to Perpignan? Train. There used to be a Bus service but I believe it finished Yeah, the Frog Bus and Perpicat.
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Post by Chico on Nov 1, 2017 13:13:05 GMT
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Post by Chico on Oct 17, 2017 13:42:25 GMT
I’ll add my own understanding of where these guys are at. Just to mention: I was on the Forever Reds board for a period of time and attended the first meeting a fortnight ago, however, I missed last night’s meeting and have no intention of applying for the board under its new guise. I have also paid £10 to be a member. BackgroundSo, Dave Campbell and a few other supporters have met with Ian Blease on a number of occasions this year to help establish a better dialogue between the clubs and its fans. At some point, they thought it best to formalise as an independent fans group. At this point they were made aware that Salford already had a registered supporters trust, namely Forever Reds, which was pretty much dormant for three or four years or so. Dave contacted Shirley Bradshaw, the previously elected chair of Forever Reds, and both set the ball rolling as to revive the supporters trust under a new guise. Why is it important to be a supporters trust?Fans are free to form a group as they wish. However, as has been shown on here and other forums, you need to be able to trust the people involved, particularly where money and influence are concerned. Supporters trusts are registered legal entities, IPSs – a co-operative company. Like limited companies, IPSs are required to submit company accounts and appoint people to positions who are responsible, and ultimately liable, for the running of the trust. But everyone who is a member owns an equal share of the trust. So, by formalising a supporters group as a trust, an IPS, no-one can buy other people’s shares to have a greater influence in the trust, nor is it likely that anybody is going to run away with the coffers. Current positionTo save time, rather than windup Forever Reds Limited and then start afresh with a new company, the guys decided to review and amend Forever Reds Limited. With the guidance of Supporters Direct, Dave and co are working to the next steps in this document: docs.google.com/document/d/1Ei3dn1PlDGVoGNS8IxaNAjEONyqRwriV9gR6dOGnDDQ. Aims & ObjectivesAs there is a legal process for this, for now, Salford RLFC Supporters Trust have adopted Forever Reds’ objectives as set out in its rules. These are: - To strengthen the bonds between Club and the community which is serves and to represent the interest of the community in the running of the Club.
- To further the development of the game of rugby league nationally and internationally and the upholding of its rules.
- To benefit present and future members of the community served by the Club by promoting encouraging and furthering the game of rugby league as a recreational facility, sporting activity and focus for community involvement.
- To encourage the Club to take proper account of the interests of its supporters and of the community it serves in its decisions.
- To encourage and promote the principle of supporter representation on the board of any company owning or controlling the Club and ultimately to be the vehicle for democratic elections to the board.
- To promote, develop and respect the rights of members of the community served by the Club and people dealing with the trust as set out in the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union, having regard in particular to the need to provide information to members and conduct the affairs of the trust in accessible and appropriate ways.
- To provide a means of significantly supporting Salford RLFC via fundraising.
- To work for the sporting and financial success of the club, and to uphold and preserve the tradition and heritage of Salford RLFC.
Does Salford RLFC Supporters Trust have a website?Yes, it’s at salfordrlfcst.wordpress.com. Does this have anything to do with Marwan’s board of trustees?No. The announcement of both at a similar time was coincidental.
So, talking about the aims of the group, they are quite broad and ambitious. Now, the trust can focus on one or two of those points, which I’m sure they will do when they put it out to the members. You could either join now to be able to have an influence on that, or wait until they have got round to it. I understand that is frustrating and there is a particular route I would like to see the trust go down, but I just decided to join to keep the momentum going. I imagine Dave, who I have never met and only texted after the first meeting, has been bombarded with a lot of information in a short space of time and is doing this in his spare time alongside work and family commitments. So, even if it appears as if they are running before they can walk, I’m willing to cut them some slack while they form the new board and really get into it.
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