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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 8:19:11 GMT
Adult prices are fairly decent but why we charge £10 for kids tickets is a mystery to me. Even with the special offer of £10 adult tickets for the next 2 games, they are still charging £10 for kids, which kind of defeats the object.
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Post by mrg on May 18, 2017 8:34:13 GMT
I think kids should be free or £5 tops. I usually go with my dad to games but when he was on holiday a couple of weeks ago I convinced my wife and kids to come. With tickets and something to eat/ drink I spent just under £100. Don't get me wrong they all enjoyed it but I can't afford that every other week.
My first game was in the 87/88 season when adults were £3.50 and kids £2.20. Not sure how that reflects on today's prices with inflation etc.
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Post by manny on May 18, 2017 8:41:42 GMT
I think kids should be free or £5 tops. I usually go with my dad to games but when he was on holiday a couple of weeks ago I convinced my wife and kids to come. With tickets and something to eat/ drink I spent just under £100. Don't get me wrong they all enjoyed it but I can't afford that every other week. My first game was in the 87/88 season when adults were £3.50 and kids £2.20. Not sure how that reflects on today's prices with inflation etc. Adult Ticket £9.50 Kids Ticket £5.90 The problem is as much as football has become extortionate, RL has also lifted prices much higher than inflation despite the sports profile remaining unchanged as a minority sport. It’s like Vauxhall offering a sporty performance hatch with their pricing being influenced by what a Ferrari costs. The Vauxhall may be an entertaining drive with decent performance but if they set the price too high and it’s perceived value is much less, or people simply can’t justify or afford the expense, then they aren’t going to sell decent numbers. People just can't compare it to PL football that's been attracting billions of international investment and booming year on year. I just don't think some people have the disposable income to watch both sports or take the whole family on a regular basis. I think another factor is many people these days subscribe to Sky/BT or Virgin and that's another big expense people didn't used to have. So basically people's entertainment budgets are being squeezed from every direction and RL has more than doubled it's prices over inflation. |
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Post by andyh0064 on May 18, 2017 9:15:55 GMT
Dropping kids prices would be great, as mentioned above. Less than 20 years ago it was £5 for a kids season ticket, I expect a good chunk of kids that took advantage of those prices got hooked and carried/carry on going as adults.
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Post by greyhound on May 18, 2017 11:42:19 GMT
WOULD A SEASON TICKET TO INCLUDE AWAY MATCHES IMPROVE THINGS ?
In my opinion all children under 16 should be free at the end of the day these young fans are the games future.
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Post by Chico on May 18, 2017 11:56:45 GMT
You also need to acknowledge that it costs a lot more to host games these days, even if you own your own ground. The cost of policing and stewarding, for example, is much more considerable.
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Post by manny on May 18, 2017 12:09:21 GMT
You also need to acknowledge that it costs a lot more to host games these days, even if you own your own ground. The cost of policing and stewarding, for example, is much more considerable. It's a good point Chico. The extra policing costs were a result of the football hooliganism culture of the 1980's, plus Heysel and the Bradford fire disaster. If the costs and numbers required by law are not negotiable then I say charge a bit less, attract more people and give them a lot more work to do. It's ridiculous we must have more parking stewards at the AJ Bell than people in the hospitality suite. There was that many of them on my first visit I thought they were providing valet parking. Would it not have been cheaper to have the car park fenced off with a gate and a couple of attendants like at the Willows? |
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Post by Chico on May 18, 2017 15:39:00 GMT
Rather than inflation, a better way to assess the difference over time is the cost in proportion to the average weekly wage. So, between the wars, for example, the cost of basic adult admission was around one-fortieth and one-sixtieth.
A fortieth of £250 = £6.25
A fortieth of £500 = £12.50
A fortieth of Salford’s ‘average’ wage of £28,500 = £14.84
Anyone fancy doing this for the 1990s?
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Post by scoot on May 18, 2017 16:52:54 GMT
In 1955 the admission was 1 shilling and nine pence and average wage was £10.00 (old money) per week. Can anybody work out how that relates to today ?
I think £10 pounds = 240 pence in the pound x 10 =2400 / by 21 =114
Todays ave wage ? divided by today's admission price = ?
Anyone help
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Post by irishred on May 19, 2017 0:49:03 GMT
They would have to pay me that Manny. I just hate to see empty seats at grounds. Surely we can give 1,000 tickets to kids accompanied by parents who pay a fiver per kid - its all bunse and would help the atmosphere. Nowt to lose for instance v Catalan. Could the club not find a sponsor to subsidise this? Surely the local council could pass on the names of a few businesses who they spend a lot of money with. A company could get some good publicity by doing this and giving something back to the local community. It is absolutely illegal for a council to do what you imply! Public bodies are under strict EU regulations to prevent "jobs for the boys" which in my opinion is no bad thing! There are companies out there who will fund this sort of suggestion, but usually on a national level. Finding one who wants to raise their profile, specifically in Salford, who has the money to pay for such a scheme is a hard ask! We as supporters do not help either! Us Northerners are generally not swayed by marketing (who has bought a Mitisbushi recently instead of something else), so who do we expect to subsidize our sport? |
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Post by andyh0064 on May 19, 2017 1:24:47 GMT
Edit- I got the wrong end of the stick with something, removed to avoid confusion.
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Post by manny on May 19, 2017 7:06:05 GMT
In 1955 the admission was 1 shilling and nine pence and average wage was £10.00 (old money) per week. Can anybody work out how that relates to today ? I think £10 pounds = 240 pence in the pound x 10 =2400 / by 21 =114 Todays ave wage ? divided by today's admission price = ? Anyone help In todays money the admission price at the Willows in 1955 was £5.31. This figure is calculated against the average working wage at the time that Chico refers to above. We have trebled/quadrupled prices and become far too greedy, and now we are spitting out the dummy because we have thousands of empty seats!!  measuringworth.com/calculators/ppoweruk/ |
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Post by hillbillyred on May 19, 2017 8:23:53 GMT
Average: mean, median, mode? KS2 maths.
Also we are being bombarded with news that there is a huge gap betweenthe highest earners and the lowest so mean and median will offer little insight.
Anyway the average wage for 2017 is supposed to be £27 000. About £519/week The only comparison is standing:£20/ticket.
1955: about 8.75% of the wage
2017: about 3.9 % of the wage
Completely irrelevant as "going to the game" was a major part of entertainment (especially for males) whereas watching a game on T.V. at home is now a major part of entertainment.
For comparison: Beer was about 6.6p/pint in 1955; it's now £3.46 to £4.70. (i.e about 10.2% of today's prices) a gallon of petrol was 22p, it's now about £5.35 (i.e. about 4.13% of today's prices)
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Post by manny on May 19, 2017 9:14:48 GMT
Average: mean, median, mode? KS2 maths. Also we are being bombarded with news that there is a huge gap betweenthe highest earners and the lowest so mean and median will offer little insight. Anyway the average wage for 2017 is supposed to be £27 000. About £519/week The only comparison is standing:£20/ticket. 1955: about 8.75% of the wage 2017: about 3.9 % of the wage Completely irrelevant as "going to the game" was a major part of entertainment (especially for males) whereas watching a game on T.V. at home is now a major part of entertainment. For comparison: Beer was about 6.6p/pint in 1955; it's now £3.46 to £4.70. (i.e about 10.2% of today's prices) a gallon of petrol was 22p, it's now about £5.35 (i.e. about 4.13% of today's prices) How can 1 shilling and 9 pence be 8.75% of £10 in 1955?. I think you got a decimal point in the wrong place, it was 0.875% of the average weekly wage. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 10:30:39 GMT
To get back to the original question.
YES.
When you add in transport costs, parking (a disgrace it costs 25% extra to park) and the crazy prices for refreshments at the stadium. I know it pales compared to football but for me we should be aiming for a different market, which market though is hard to define.
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