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Post by dixon13 on Apr 5, 2024 22:40:29 GMT
I’m not singling cross out just pointing out nofa today was victim of the same defensive system that caught cross out it’s clearly a plan. But we’ve been found out and teams are exploiting it massively. Side note king and Mellor were poor need more of the bench Agree Mr Millward and with Dixon on the effort. Some of our thick fans blame Norfa two games in. King cost us two tries first half turning his back, we got rolled at marker every other set. Cust, Nene, Brierley all missed tackles on Senior. I lay the blame on Rowley, **** edge defense system that gets done every game. Leigh was no different, In addition just two forwards on the bench is stupid. I am not leaving out the coaches in my observations far from it they should be walking home as well,but the coaches could not do any tackling sat on the gantry its a team game that's what we should be focusing on anyone who went tonight were let down by the lot of them. We lost nearly every individual battle that is why as a collective we lost. I know some will say well we will beat Warrington I will tell you I wouldn't put your money on it,I also hear some say we think we are better than we are,well those that do want to wake up and apologize. |
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Post by JJR on Apr 5, 2024 22:58:21 GMT
I know the rowley lovers will shoot me down but we had chances to get an nrl prop in and instead he went for a luxury winger who quite frankly was an embarrassment tonight!and again the last two away games especially this one where we are expecting to win the mentality is just all wrong both hull kr and this what are they being told during the week! You’re positivity about Rowley underwhelmed me LHR He's the reason we’re still in SL mate…no money beat Saints, one man plays poorly and you’re on his case…sad |
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Post by JJR on Apr 5, 2024 23:04:31 GMT
King V poor
Not Watkins best game, esp defensively
Ryan played well last week, why change
R edge D, pitiful
Brierley positioning in defence needs looking at…follow the ball across man …simple
We had it won but couldn’t defend esp round the ptb….they aren’t a good team but they enthused…we posed
You only learn when you lose…so
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Post by JJR on Apr 5, 2024 23:36:55 GMT
Amazingly having not lost as badly as Leeds were in the top 6
Leigh Hull Cas London are way behind and Watto still looking at our rear…so life not too bad , except for LHR…who seems intent on getting at Rowley via his mate PK…perhaps he might tell PK to generate some cash so we don’t lose about £1M last season. and have to get rid of top 3 players.
Rowley is building a new team via a new spine; remember Marwan brought in Watto, Watto brought in Rowley, the Board brought in Marshall…I’ll stick with Rowley, with or without a top class reserve grade NRL prop forward. If Marshall had still been here , it’d have been in the Championship
Nofo hopefully, when sorted will, on big dry grounds come good, but we’ll see…his pedigree cf reserve grade Oz props is not bad
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Post by lhred on Apr 6, 2024 3:55:16 GMT
You mean how your intent on getting at Paul king all the time even though people have said what you said didn’t happen who were actually there?!as for the board getting Marshall the board offered it rowley at first he didn’t want it and with rowley and blease help and advice Marshall was chosen then after Marshall the board asked rowley to be coach,so without the board offering it rowley he wouldn’t be coach!anyway I like rowley and my point was and it’s boring but we could have got another forward in instead of the winger but that’s my opinion,the bench of mellor and atkin on it is way to small!
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Post by lhred on Apr 6, 2024 5:37:50 GMT
Anyway not getting into bickering there’s been enough of that with a certain person,think our first 8 matches show us where our problems lie and that’s defence only one game have we conceded less than 20 so that’s a big worry,I think last night certainly at 24-18 we had it won just think we don’t know how to stop teams when they get on a roll,ultimately defence wins you matches and the tries we conceded were so poor that we were always going to come unstuck,week off now hopefully dudson back and we can start having a bigger bench,personally I thought Dixon was ok against Wigan so suprised he hasn’t been used again he was 18th man last night
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Post by JJR on Apr 6, 2024 7:15:36 GMT
I wouldn’t have played Mellor and Atkin on the bench aand played a bigger forward but it worked against Leigh…and I wouldn’t have played Nofo. But what do I know…he’s forgotten more about rugby than I’ll ever know…as for buying Oz forwards, he got Dudson instead
My point re Rowley is that he’s now got to build a new spine and effectively a new team because of the financial issue, not against individuals, just the fact…I’m surprised he stayed…and he’s yet again, overachieving…but he’s open and honest so why don’t you ask him why he bought Nofo…but for me the team, without Nofo lacks speed
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 6, 2024 7:45:11 GMT
Anyway not getting into bickering there’s been enough of that with a certain person,think our first 8 matches show us where our problems lie and that’s defence only one game have we conceded less than 20 so that’s a big worry,I think last night certainly at 24-18 we had it won just think we don’t know how to stop teams when they get on a roll,ultimately defence wins you matches and the tries we conceded were so poor that we were always going to come unstuck,week off now hopefully dudson back and we can start having a bigger bench,personally I thought Dixon was ok against Wigan so suprised he hasn’t been used again he was 18th man last night Their should be no bickering, everyone is entitled to their opinion,we all watched last night some unluckily were there How many different opinions are their on what we witnessed everyone on this forum as favourites,it's human nature of all the different opinions we are probably all a little bit right,but we all think we are the only one right it's called debate,. but what we should all agree on was that,last night's performance was unacceptable from 1 17 their should be no debate about that. Also their has been a bit of banter re Leigh,I have a friend who moved from Salford to the Leigh area many years ago,but a season ticket holder at the Devils but if we are not playing and Leigh are at home he goes but the same person his a Salford fanatic just like me. |
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Post by worsleyreddevil on Apr 6, 2024 8:08:53 GMT
Amazingly having not lost as badly as Leeds were in the top 6 Leigh Hull Cas London are way behind and Watto still looking at our rear…so life not too bad , except for LHR…who seems intent on getting at Rowley via his mate PK…perhaps he might tell PK to generate some cash so we don’t lose about £1M last season. and have to get rid of top 3 players. Rowley is building a new team via a new spine; remember Marwan brought in Watto, Watto brought in Rowley, the Board brought in Marshall…I’ll stick with Rowley, with or without a top class reserve grade NRL prop forward. If Marshall had still been here , it’d have been in the Championship Nofo hopefully, when sorted will, on big dry grounds come good, but we’ll see…his pedigree cf reserve grade Oz props is not bad JJR heads gone what has Paul King got to do with last nights performance. We let them run from marker - King was the biggest culprit here. Brierley needs tackle practice he missed 3 one on one tackles. He was awful last night as our last line of defence. Cust, MacDonald and Brierley all missed tackles on Senior. As has been said by others Rowley's defensive system is not working, Cas are not a super quick team. We are that flat on the edge a team can easily pass over us as demonstrated v Leigh and last night at Cas. Rowley choose a third hooker on the bench, this offered us no value. Foster or Dixon last night would have made us better in the middle. Rowley needs to consider playing a 3rd forward, all the better teams do, surely we can learn from this. I just watched KR v London highlights, London are shocking. Rowley needs to sort out the edge defence big time but cannot be held responsible for mistackles that is on our players. |
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Post by russ on Apr 6, 2024 8:56:00 GMT
It's only when I see the blame game being worked out on a forum that I fully understand the "Headless Chickens" that are mentioned from time to time.
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 6, 2024 8:57:53 GMT
Amazingly having not lost as badly as Leeds were in the top 6 Leigh Hull Cas London are way behind and Watto still looking at our rear…so life not too bad , except for LHR…who seems intent on getting at Rowley via his mate PK…perhaps he might tell PK to generate some cash so we don’t lose about £1M last season. and have to get rid of top 3 players. Rowley is building a new team via a new spine; remember Marwan brought in Watto, Watto brought in Rowley, the Board brought in Marshall…I’ll stick with Rowley, with or without a top class reserve grade NRL prop forward. If Marshall had still been here , it’d have been in the Championship Nofo hopefully, when sorted will, on big dry grounds come good, but we’ll see…his pedigree cf reserve grade Oz props is not bad JJR heads gone what has Paul King got to do with last nights performance. We let them run from marker - King was the biggest culprit here. Brierley needs tackle practice he missed 3 one on one tackles. He was awful last night as our last line of defence. Cust, MacDonald and Brierley all missed tackles on Senior. As has been said by others Rowley's defensive system is not working, Cas are not a super quick team. We are that flat on the edge a team can easily pass over us as demonstrated v Leigh and last night at Cas. Rowley choose a third hooker on the bench, this offered us no value. Foster or Dixon last night would have made us better in the middle. Rowley needs to consider playing a 3rd forward, all the better teams do, surely we can learn from this. I just watched KR v London highlights, London are shocking. Rowley needs to sort out the edge defence big time but cannot be held responsible for mistackles that is on our players. So are we saying we are watching a team of robots programmed by Paul Rowley to go on a field and play,and last night he programmed them to play like they did,to miss tackle after tackle so when the program falls apart they haven't got the brains to sort it out if that's the case we are wasting our money going to watch, ordinary bread and butter rugby players should know how to tackle that's one of the main tenants of the game. |
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Post by earlybath on Apr 6, 2024 9:05:40 GMT
Despite such a gloomy performance I still feel the Top 6 has one spot available and its between us, Rhinos & Fartown.
Time to sharpen up lads.
Guess the Rhinos Forum is in uproar what with their money, crowds, tradition etc.
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Post by JJR on Apr 6, 2024 9:58:56 GMT
I was merely replying to LHR, Worsley RD….to me Rowley is having to build a new team and I’ll support him and because of the gems he and Bleasy turn up I can’t criticise his recruitment. The issue to me is that every time we get good progress in the team we have to sell and rebuild
Not sure how good Nofo will be but besides beef up front, which has been addressed a bit, we need speed and if they get him settled fit and part of the team structure he should provide…Rowleys team selection baffled me last night but we had the game 3 or 4 times and let it go; we seemed to lose it round the ruck speed and for some reason we keep leaking points…but its probably due to new faces fitting in…
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Post by russ on Apr 6, 2024 10:49:26 GMT
So are we saying we are watching a team of robots programmed by Paul Rowley to go on a field and play,and last night he programmed them to play like they did,to miss tackle after tackle so when the program falls apart they haven't got the brains to sort it out if that's the case we are wasting our money going to watch, ordinary bread and butter rugby players should know how to tackle that's one of the main tenants of the game. No most seemed to be looking around for whose fault it was, but as I said that was a relegation level performance if ever the was one. If you can make Senior look like a mixture of Billy Boston, Eric Grothe and Mr Angry you have to admit something is holistically very wrong and not just push individual performances as faulty. |
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Post by Carnster on Apr 6, 2024 10:55:43 GMT
This is a weird team this year.
They defensively look better than last year but are shipping more tries. They are more structured than last year but their structure is shipping tries. We are playing more maturely than last year but are making stupid calls at stupid times.
I'm really not sure what to make of it all...
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