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Post by BDD on Feb 24, 2024 22:02:16 GMT
Incomong... Another live call BS. It has to be a try I agree with no try ,no proof it was, or wasn't touched on the ground. Insufficient for the video ref to turn it over, I agree, but it shouldn't have gone up as no try. From the view behind the try line the apex of the ball gets to he ground. Odds are it's made contact and the ref should give advantage to the attaching team. Then you have the ball steal decision. The forwards pass for Leeming's try. The Wardle one which was a disgrace, and the video ref definitely had evidence to over turn that. Marshall selling out of bounds right in front of the line judge and he doesn't flag. I didn't care who won but I'm fed up of seeing games decided by referees. That performance today was disgraceful. It's like they decided pregame that the wouldn't allow Penrith to win u less they ran rampant and couldn't do anything to stop it. Salford were done in three successive home games last year and it cost us a top 5 place. I've been watching Super League less and less on recent years. After these first few weeks and tonight I'll not be watching any Super League unless it's Salford, and that's becoming debatable because of how inept officiating is. |
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Post by kreuzbergred on Feb 24, 2024 22:06:04 GMT
"odds are it's made contact." And as Fred Done, who's just presented the WCC Cup, would no doubt offer odds that it wasn't.
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Post by BDD on Feb 24, 2024 22:18:18 GMT
"odds are it's made contact." And as Fred Done, who's just presented the WCC Cup, would no doubt offer odds that it wasn't. My point is that it should have gone up as a try. From the back camera, where the ref was, it looks to be grounded. There is no way the ref can be sure it wasn't. Advantage should go to the attacking team and then let the video ref look for conclusive evidence. Either way, that's just the icing on what was an horrendous officiating performance. How they can see the strip was legal is beyond me. The other player clearly dropped off and I didn't need a replay to see that. And how the Wardle try went up as a try and stayed that way is beyond me—I thought he was well short live and on replay he was closer than I imagined be definitely not on he line, not without a double movement. It's not fun watching a sport where officials, and not players and coaches, decide the outcome, which happens way to often. |
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Post by SalfordSlim on Feb 24, 2024 22:21:37 GMT
Congrats to Wigan... my group of glory hunting mates in North Wales will be dancing in the streets of Shotton tonight!
Makes us sound like whingers doesn't it calling out some of those decisions?😂 I wasn't overly arsed about the result but like you say Wigan fans are insufferable at the best of times and (like Stains last year) will be an even bigger bunch of ****s now.😫 Can't disagree with anything you've said above TBH BDD but you just knew that Moore was never giving that last try. For me the players body position suggested a try (and I thought I could see some of the ball on the ground on the replay) and the 2nd man in the tackle was nowhere near underneath the ball. Moore guessed and decided a bit of flak from 10,000 miles away was preferable to getting lynched by 20,000+ pie eaters when he got back to his Fiat Cinquecento after the game.😁
But Penrith bombed 2 or 3 great chances to score so should've really made the Chuckle Brothers' decision making irrelevant to the outcome.
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Post by BDD on Feb 24, 2024 22:38:32 GMT
Agree on the last try. Live, I thought based on his body position when he got inside the winger that he'd scored. Field didn't have the leverage to be fully under the ball with his fingers. From the back camera (where the ref was) the apex of the ball looks grounded to me... notice how the video ref didn't go back to that one and asked for a the side camera again.
It's so frustrating. Wigan fans are insufferable but I really didn't care who won. Now I'm extremely frustrated. I thought there were some outstanding plays from both teams in attack and defence. It was nice to see Field's tackle in the corner, proper FB play. Not sure why May didn't slow up and hit his support with a pass but he has some speed himself. Great tackle from To'o too. Inventive almost try from Wigan. Some really hard yards earned and standup defence from both sides.
But, the result was decided by terrible decisions, and that's what I'm fed up of. Also, over here, a lot of those decisions seem to go the way of the 'big' teams.
I watch NFL and I watch the NRL when I can and love it. Officials will always make mistakes and they do on those leagues, but you don't see anywhere near the amount of poor majority calls or games getting decided by the officials. I don't understand why we didn't have a Captain's Challenge today. It was international rules and in the World Cup we had a Captain's Challenge.
I am done watching Super League and I know several people who were done as far back as 2/3 years ago.
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Post by JJR on Feb 24, 2024 22:40:55 GMT
Ref did his best in a highly charged difficult atmosphere
Dont detract from a brilliant spectacle…without the ref, there wouldn’t be a match…and none of us could even last the pace of running around, never mind making crucial decisions
We watched it on tv with lots of replays and we didn’t know lots of the end results
Stop whinging, enjoy a brilliant sporting 3vent and compare it to Scotland v England RU…where nobody could string 3 passes together
A great sporting ev3nt and a great night for RL…that’s where we should be aiming…but..we constantly complain about funding, the RL, people not turning up, the Council etc…ambition of the highest order has got Wigan where they are…congratulations to both sides for a fantastic game…and congratulations to Wigan for what they’ve achieved …a sell out crowd a month ago and putting on a great sporting event…that really does need ambition and determinatiin
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Post by SalfordSlim on Feb 24, 2024 22:56:57 GMT
It was a great game to watch.
BUT... it was decided by some, at best, dubious calls and that completely takes the shine off what was an excellent performance from the Pies. If they'd have lost they'd have still got massive plaudits from the entire RL community on both sides of the planet. Penrith are up there with the great Aussie club sides and losing to them wouldn't have been a disgrace at all but you can see why people think they smell a rat when the Wigan born ref makes those calls.
I don't think Moore & Kendall covered themselves in glory tonight at all.
BTW, BDD.... not sure if you use Twitter but if you do I think I've just spotted your post.😂
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Post by JJR on Feb 24, 2024 23:06:40 GMT
The fact that tv is still showing all the replays with conjecture over the decisions after many replays from all angles in slow motion shows to me that the ref did a brilliant job in making decisions which were not clear cut
Kendall shouldn’t even have been at the ground…Thaler should have been in his place
Wigan won, it’s in the newspaper, end of, and it was a great game
Amazingly no head high tackles, no cards, few penalties and just two six-agains…this is where RFL should be heading
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Post by mauricethered on Feb 25, 2024 9:54:27 GMT
The game last night was a joke, ruined by the Wigans very own bent ref Liam Moore. How he misses a blatant forward pass Wigan score off, how he misses Wardle being short of the line, how he gives a penalty for a legal ball steal against the Panthers, how he awards a no try for Penrith late on having given the Wardle try. Super League officiating is a disgrace, yet again incompetence reigns and dictates the outcome of a game. My point Moore awarded Wigan two blatant no tries.
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Post by russ on Feb 25, 2024 12:20:12 GMT
I think letting your bees in your bonnet run away with you might be in evidence.
Wigan desrved their win for how they played the game.
And I'm afraid the Aussies are not good at accepting results or decisions which is why they came up the silly Captain's Challenge.
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Post by SalfordSlim on Feb 25, 2024 12:30:37 GMT
So looks like it's just you, JJR & Wigan fans who didn't notice the woeful officiating from Moore then Russ.😁
Everyone knew the Wardle "try" was nowhere near over the line and the "no try" at the end looked far more like a try so I just can't see how he doesn't send it up as a try to the VR.
You could also clearly see the ball steal took place about a metre or so away from the 2nd/3rd tacklers who'd dropped off.
I'd have said the same if it was any team last night and not just Wigan. The only one of those calls that was borderline was the Penrith no try, the others were just downright incompetent calls by both Moore & Kendall.
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Post by JJR on Feb 25, 2024 12:50:53 GMT
Where’s the next game your reffing SS…running around for 80+ minutes making crucial decisions?
Read the report this am…seems Wigan
Best game of RL I’ve seen since Saints beat Penrith
By the way they’re still trying to decide on Sky about the tries,….. perhaps you could give them your expert guidance
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Post by SalfordSlim on Feb 25, 2024 13:08:54 GMT
Where’s the next game your reffing SS…running around for 80+ minutes making crucial decisions? Read the report this am…seems Wigan Best game of RL I’ve seen since Saints beat Penrith By the way they’re still trying to decide on Sky about the tries,….. perhaps you could give them your expert guidance I'm not paid to do it fella and if I was I'd do a better job TBF. I've not seen Sky so I can't comment on that but if he sends Wardle upstairs as try then he has to do the same from the Penrith one. No-one is disputing it wasn't a great game so you can leave that out of your argument.👍 We have 3 officials on field and one in the box with various camera angles, they need to get big calls right. There is no way Moore can see Wardle has got that down from his view as he's got defenders blocking it. By the time he wanders around the ruck Wardle may well have promoted the ball onto the line but I don't think there is any footage to show this. There's video (not still photo) footage somewhere online I've seen that shows Wardle was a good half a yard short when he hit the deck and his momentum did not propel him onto/over the line. Moore guessed, pure and simple and got it badly wrong. Your "expert" thoughts on the ball steal? |
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Post by russ on Feb 25, 2024 14:26:11 GMT
So looks like it's just you, Russ.😁 Suits me SS, I always like to steer clear of popular delusions and the madness of crowds. |
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Post by SalfordSlim on Feb 25, 2024 14:51:53 GMT
Nice bit of editing, can see what you did there.😁
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