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Post by dixon13 on Sept 2, 2023 10:59:10 GMT
Some on this forum need to realise what we are,we are not a top six side,we are a team that with luck and a fair wind can make the top six Anyone who thinks other wise are deluded. Get another coach in even if it's the Australians test coach what I have said above doesn't change. For me Rowley had earned is money when we reached 20 Ponts,and if anyone on this forum thought it would have been different with Marshall Watson Harris Sheen's Noble are even more deluded. Some go on about our indisapline so Rowley tells them,right lads you no what to give a load of penalties away and by the way go easy in the tackle we don't want you hurting anybody or to Mark Snyed if you get a free kick don't get as much distance as you can anything will do Ps WE ARE NOT A TOP SIX SIDE Small club mentality and thinking Dixon. We've done our bit off the pitch this season with community investment and getting more punters in which in turn compliments the clubs vision of growth. Rowley has to improve us on the pitch and this year we've gone backwards for reasons stated many times mainly we have one way of playing, if it fails we lose. What do you mean we have done are bit. Well I say Paul Rowley has done is bit like I said he got us to 20 points Yes money as been raised and a valiant effort it was but none of it went on players, yes you can have the mentality we are a big team but when you come back into the real world we are not a big team Who ever is coach when they get us to at least 20 points they have done their job. I my opinion the last time we were a big team was between 1968 to 78 I am sorry to say that. But that's the way the mop flops. |
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Post by ulster on Sept 2, 2023 14:44:50 GMT
In football with smaller teams doing well this situation comes up often. there fans say the manager has taken us as far as he can lets change, Curbishley at Charlton, Pulis at Stoke, and many more examples, Look where these clubs are now. I understand fans who want to think bigger, its natural but sometimes we have to realise in my opinion that we are a smaller club punching above our weight.
We can dream of doing a Leicester and it nearly happened but look at Leicester now.
At heart We all want the club to be bigger and better if possible, but what we have done the last few years is a miracle
and as a fan of the greatest rugby league club I say thankyou to everyone for your support and commitment to the cause
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Post by JJR on Sept 2, 2023 15:23:53 GMT
Yes basically Ulster until we get more funding in we are where we are….generally with over ambitious hope…but we continue to punch above our weight
It’s been said on here that we nearly weren’t able to pay wages early in the season, we’ve had a share offer which probably stabilises things but we still have to sell to survive ( Dupree) so we’re stuck with older forwards
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Post by dixon13 on Sept 2, 2023 21:46:15 GMT
In football with smaller teams doing well this situation comes up often. there fans say the manager has taken us as far as he can lets change, Curbishley at Charlton, Pulis at Stoke, and many more examples, Look where these clubs are now. I understand fans who want to think bigger, its natural but sometimes we have to realise in my opinion that we are a smaller club punching above our weight. We can dream of doing a Leicester and it nearly happened but look at Leicester now. At heart We all want the club to be bigger and better if possible, but what we have done the last few years is a miracle and as a fan of the greatest rugby league club I say thankyou to everyone for your support and commitment to the cause Their is a few on this forum not in the real world,who think we are bigger than we are.What you saw with Leicester City in football I don't think would ever happen in Rugby League. In our sport it's the same old same old. I don't think sky or the Premier League want another Leicester same as they don't want City winning it again or if they do they don't want them winning it with 5 games to go. But anyone on here who gets disappointed if we don't finish in the top 6 is silly,in my opinion.Yes have expectations but at this point in time the expectation should be not being relegated anything other is a bonus. To say we have done our bit ie fund raising when none of that money went on the team and that somehow Rowley as not done his bit is also silly I am not an apologist for Rowley but I do think he sends the team out to entertain. |
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Post by SalfordSlim on Sept 4, 2023 10:14:12 GMT
Does Matt Peet do a better job with this squad of Salford players than Rowley? Genuine question. Personally I doubt it.
Wigan's average crowd must be treble ours.
He's got the ability to spend the full cap every season
A never ending supply line of local talent to compliment overseas stars and the likes of Hastings/Dupree etc who they can poach from other clubs. They also save on the cap with their homegrown players.
Wigan's backroom team will be much larger than ours and their training/medical facilities far superior.
There's a reason why we've only beaten Wigan something like 8 times in almost 60 SL games. Pretty much everything has to align for us and we need Wigan to not be at 100%. That doesn't happen often.
Do I like it? No, it's painful watching us lose to that lot year in year out but realistically we are punching above our weight as others have said. It's not about having a small time mentality, that's nonsense. Even if the community scheme becomes a huge success and the club grows significantly off the field the reality is it will potentially take decades to get anywhere near to the level of Wigan, Saints, Leeds etc.
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Post by cmillward20 on Sept 4, 2023 10:37:53 GMT
Does Matt Peet do a better job with this squad of Salford players than Rowley? Genuine question. Personally I doubt it. Wigan's average crowd must be treble ours. He's got the ability to spend the full cap every season A never ending supply line of local talent to compliment overseas stars and the likes of Hastings/Dupree etc who they can poach from other clubs. They also save on the cap with their homegrown players. Wigan's backroom team will be much larger than ours and their training/medical facilities far superior. There's a reason why we've only beaten Wigan something like 8 times in almost 60 SL games. Pretty much everything has to align for us and we need Wigan to not be at 100%. That doesn't happen often. Do I like it? No, it's painful watching us lose to that lot year in year out but realistically we are punching above our weight as others have said. It's not about having a small time mentality, that's nonsense. Even if the community scheme becomes a huge success and the club grows significantly off the field the reality is it will potentially take decades to get anywhere near to the level of Wigan, Saints, Leeds etc. Your right Wigan are a better run club then us which is are own fault over the years but you can only spend so much so with a bit more money no reason we couldn’t compete. The biggest problem for us is we have no pathway, yes we have a reserve team but it seems more like a tick box thing right now |
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Post by worsleyreddevil on Sept 4, 2023 12:59:28 GMT
The theme to my points is that Rowley is limited in terms of how he sets up a team. If we try to run around Wire on Sunday we will be crushed. We tried to run around Wigan early on Friday and made numerous mistakes. If we are not completing sets, change the approach be less flamboyant focus on defence and completing sets. We keep throwing it around and the errors mount up. This is basic game management, no one is comparing our club to another club just merely making a point that Rowley's current approach is one dimensional. Matt Peet knew Wigan only had two days to prepare for this game, we had 6 days. So Peet sends out Wigan to be solid and compact in the first 20 mins, it works as we start to make mistakes. Our game plan was dumb and that has nothing to do with money. Our coach sets the team up and devises the game plan. I expect a better standard of execution from the team, doing the basics right that is all, the very minimum. Apologies Rowley fans, that is just my opinion based on what I watched.
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Post by earlybath on Sept 4, 2023 13:14:13 GMT
Usual tosh from Worsley.
Seem to remember a few months ago v the World Champions we played Rowleyball and denied only by Our favourite referee.
Stick to what we know and the suggestion to out bash much bigger opposition is just plain barmy.
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Post by worsleyreddevil on Sept 4, 2023 14:06:09 GMT
Usual tosh from Worsley. Seem to remember a few months ago v the World Champions we played Rowleyball and denied only by Our favourite referee. Stick to what we know and the suggestion to out bash much bigger opposition is just plain barmy. Not suggesting we take on a much bigger pack and keep it in the forwards. Just that we at times in periods of games play less expansive and be smarter because when Rowley ball is off we at times play like a group of school kids. And to your point about last year, we had a bit of luck with injuries (Other teams did not) and teams had not worked us out. Now every team knows how to play against us, we have not evolved this year to this point or even show an ability to for brief periods in game change our style. That is my frustration with Rowley and the team, in fact Rowls talks about playing smart. On Friday in the first half Addy threw 2-3 miss passes, it absolutely kills the team so tighten up to stay competitive in the game. |
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Post by dixon13 on Sept 4, 2023 17:12:32 GMT
Usual tosh from Worsley. Seem to remember a few months ago v the World Champions we played Rowleyball and denied only by Our favourite referee. Stick to what we know and the suggestion to out bash much bigger opposition is just plain barmy. Not suggesting we take on a much bigger pack and keep it in the forwards. Just that we at times in periods of games play less expansive and be smarter because when Rowley ball is off we at times play like a group of school kids. And to your point about last year, we had a bit of luck with injuries (Other teams did not) and teams had not worked us out. Now every team knows how to play against us, we have not evolved this year to this point or even show an ability to for brief periods in game change our style. That is my frustration with Rowley and the team, in fact Rowls talks about playing smart. On Friday in the first half Addy threw 2-3 miss passes, it absolutely kills the team so tighten up to stay competitive in the game. I go back to the Leigh game we get a free kick that was harder to miss than convert The coaching staff are telling Sneyd to take the 2 Sneyd goes for touch and doesn't find it. Was that Rowleys fault we lost 3 home games not because of the game plan but because of incompetent referee's or was that Rowleys fault.When are you going to realise we are not as good as you think. |
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Post by SalfordSlim on Sept 4, 2023 18:06:42 GMT
Does Matt Peet do a better job with this squad of Salford players than Rowley? Genuine question. Personally I doubt it. Wigan's average crowd must be treble ours. He's got the ability to spend the full cap every season A never ending supply line of local talent to compliment overseas stars and the likes of Hastings/Dupree etc who they can poach from other clubs. They also save on the cap with their homegrown players. Wigan's backroom team will be much larger than ours and their training/medical facilities far superior. There's a reason why we've only beaten Wigan something like 8 times in almost 60 SL games. Pretty much everything has to align for us and we need Wigan to not be at 100%. That doesn't happen often. Do I like it? No, it's painful watching us lose to that lot year in year out but realistically we are punching above our weight as others have said. It's not about having a small time mentality, that's nonsense. Even if the community scheme becomes a huge success and the club grows significantly off the field the reality is it will potentially take decades to get anywhere near to the level of Wigan, Saints, Leeds etc. Your right Wigan are a better run club then us which is are own fault over the years but you can only spend so much so with a bit more money no reason we couldn’t compete. The biggest problem for us is we have no pathway, yes we have a reserve team but it seems more like a tick box thing right now They're "better run" as they're wealthier and they're lucky that Wigan is a tinpot mining town where Rugby League is king. When you're born a meat pie is shoved into your piehole and you're forced into swearing allegiance to Billy Boston, Ellery Hanley, Andy Gregory et al. Every school makes RL a priority. We don't have that luxury in Salford. I've lost count of the times on here one of us has mentioned that Utd (& now City) dominate the sporting landscape. As far as I'm aware most Salford schools don't give 2 shiny shites about RL. It's as big an imbalance as you can get when trying to compete on a level playing field. Even less Sky funding and the rising concerns about head injuries etc in RL is only going to make our job that much harder when selling the game to your average man/woman/child in the street. |
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Post by JJR on Sept 9, 2023 18:19:09 GMT
Moneybags, Oz coach, massive Academy Leeds 0 Wigan 50…is our result in a new perspective?
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Post by tron on Sept 9, 2023 18:29:43 GMT
Definitely. Apart from a few mad minutes before half time. We did ok. In fact did very well. Whatever happens tomorrow I'll be proud of what we have achieved with our resources. Can't see us making the play offs but bring on next year,
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Post by mauricethered on Sept 9, 2023 18:56:24 GMT
5K in ticket sales tomorrow lets hope we have a big Crowd tomorrow. Wigan was a shambles but we have everything to play for, we go again. Turn out, sing and lets beat Wanky Wire.
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