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Post by BDD on Mar 24, 2023 9:21:23 GMT
I'm watching Dolphins v Broncos and Fanitesi Niu has just shown two example in quick succession of how to defend on the edge, both around 10-12 minutes in. I hope our lads and Rowley are watching - trust your centre, back away at an angle until you have to commit, keep your hips in a position allowing you to flip to the winger easily. In the first one he slid, backed away and waited until the last minute and had to commit and in doing so got a hand to the ball. For the second on he again backed away and was able to switch his attention to the winger when the ball was passed. I reckon both of those would be tries against most teams, both here and in the NRL. I presume it's part of Bennett's coaching. Senior last night could have prevented a Saints try with more patience and trust in his centre.
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Post by BDD on Mar 24, 2023 9:24:24 GMT
Another tactic I've thought about for a long time but I've never seen it done. Is why don't wingers cath the ball from the KO, run it in, then have the half back come in at acting half and the prop can come into the ball from deep and at speed. Surely, you make more yardage with the winger as they catch and run, instead of the HB catching the ball, taking the time to pass it to a prop, who is yet to get up to speed. It's especially poor when the kick goes deep into the in-goal as the prop tends to have a standing start.
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Post by bandgeekmafia78 on Mar 24, 2023 9:33:00 GMT
Another tactic I've thought about for a long time but I've never seen it done. Is why don't wingers cath the ball from the KO, run it in, then have the half back come in at acting half and the prop can come into the ball from deep and at speed. Surely, you make more yardage with the winger as they catch and run, instead of the HB catching the ball, taking the time to pass it to a prop, who is yet to get up to speed. It's especially poor when the kick goes deep into the in-goal as the prop tends to have a standing start. My guess is that the winger is likely to get clattered at full speed by an opposition forward so by passing it to a prop instead, they're mitigating risk of injury. If the winger is built like Justin Carney it makes sense but otherwise I'd personally take the cautious approach. |
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Post by JJR on Mar 24, 2023 10:02:58 GMT
The kicking team set their forwards up for the opposition catch then first forward drives…Hull kr this year and the Play Off Final against Saints (Mossop) we got into trouble….I always wonder why we don’t get it a bit wider from the first forward…but the what do I know…not much
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Post by BDD on Mar 24, 2023 10:28:38 GMT
A lot of wingers are as big as backrowers nowadays, I don't think they'd necessarily get clattered. I would expect them to choose their area of attack, between players, or even moving further in field to negate that compressed defence on the edge where the opponents forward are expected the run. Props just tend to run straight forward and into the oncoming rush head-on. I'd hope the winger would aim between players 🤣 then charge the prop up with a 10m running start.
Agreed JJR. We had some terrible position from the first run against KR given how deep the kick was.
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Post by dixon13 on Mar 24, 2023 10:36:02 GMT
Call me old fashioned it's probably true,but the game in any era as called for coach innovation but I see less of it now that at anytime watching.
Two off the most inactive coaches I have ever seen coached in the sixties and seventies Cliff Evans Swinton and Salford and Roy Francis at Leeds. According to the greatest League player I have ever seen namely Alex Murphy the legendary Jim Sullivan was ahead of his time,the same was said about our own James Lomas I am not being nostalgic for a bygone time it's what I genuinely believe.
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