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Post by mauricethered on Nov 14, 2022 13:45:31 GMT
Would have to see the full Squad list however the signings especially Partington and Stone have been solid. The pack was our weakness last year and this has been addressed. Letting Escare go will have created budget.
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Post by russ on Nov 16, 2022 17:05:26 GMT
I may be wrong but an excellent spine, 2 potential backlines and about 3 different packs, never mind permutations should mean being competitive anywhere and everywhere we go as well as in the case of injuries and suspensions. At least on paper.
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Post by redunderthebed on Nov 16, 2022 18:01:17 GMT
While it’s a quiet week in the World Cup and we’ve had a few movements confirmed I’ve had a go at trying to put numbers against the whole squad
1 Brierley
2 Sio
3 Cross
4 Lafai
5 Burgess
6 Croft
7 Sneyd
8 King
9 Ackers
10 Ormondroyd
11 Watkins
12 Wright
13 Gerrard
14 Atkin
15 Stone
16 Partington
17 Dupree
18 Greenwood
19 Sidlow
20 Williams
21 Lannon
22 Dixon
23 Sarge
24 Addy
25 Costello
26 Borouh
27 Longstaff
28 Hellewell
Might be a couple of the youngsters/reserves with squad numbers too?
I’ve mostly given existing players numbers higher than newbies where they are in similar positions and quality. Some questions:
- will Partington mainly be a prop or loose? Will get 8/10/13 ahead of one or the incumbents?
- Will Watkins keep his number 3 shirt even though most likely to stay in back row?
- will Stone get a number in top 13?
- will Wright be considered a starter, if so will he mainly be thought of as 8/10/11/11/13?
Of course squad numbers mean very little these days, esp for props and 2nd row, but does give an insight into coaches thinking. And I think a number in top 13 is still seen as a ‘reward’ for good performance unless they have a reason not to - Sarge with 23 and Hastings 31 for instance
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Post by russ on Nov 18, 2022 9:32:51 GMT
Who is the 13?, seems the difficult question as well as the most important one.
Which of our forwards can do big minutes will be crucial too.
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Post by cmillward20 on Nov 19, 2022 9:34:20 GMT
Who is the 13?, seems the difficult question as well as the most important one. Which of our forwards can do big minutes will be crucial too. As it stands now unless we bring someone in or injury I’d go with Brierley Sio Cross Lafai Burgess Croft Sneyd Ormondroyd Ackers King Stone Wright Partington Atkin Dupree Gerrard Greenwood/sidlow |
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Post by russ on Nov 19, 2022 9:46:24 GMT
Who is the 13?, seems the difficult question as well as the most important one. Which of our forwards can do big minutes will be crucial too. As it stands now unless we bring someone in or injury I’d go with Brierley Sio Cross Lafai Burgess Croft Sneyd Ormondroyd Ackers King Stone Wright Partington Atkin Dupree Gerrard Greenwood/sidlow Does this mean you see Partington as a Loose Forward?
From what I've seen I'd have to ask if he's the top candidate for the position?
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Post by JJR on Nov 19, 2022 9:54:58 GMT
It’s not loose forward anymore Russ; apparently teams play 3 middles…8,10,13 early on and he’s one of them…and two wide forwards effectively extra centres 11,12 along with the spine 1,6,7,9.
The centres 3, 4 and wingers 2,5 are old school
Ask Watson as he goes thro his ‘process’
I suddenly realised this when we played at Bradford few years ago heading towards the £1m game and Morley played loose forward…not the fastest player on the field and. Bradford hammered us with speed
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Post by cmillward20 on Nov 19, 2022 11:19:48 GMT
It’s not loose forward anymore Russ; apparently teams play 3 middles…8,10,13 early on and he’s one of them…and two wide forwards effectively extra centres 11,12 along with the spine 1,6,7,9. The centres 3, 4 and wingers 2,5 are old school Ask Watson as he goes thro his ‘process’ I suddenly realised this when we played at Bradford few years ago heading towards the £1m game and Morley played loose forward…not the fastest player on the field and. Bradford hammered us with speed I’d start with partington and then bring atkin off the bench like last year to speed things up. |
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Post by russ on Nov 20, 2022 10:22:08 GMT
It’s not loose forward anymore Russ; apparently teams play 3 middles…8,10,13 early on and he’s one of them…and two wide forwards effectively extra centres 11,12 along with the spine 1,6,7,9. The centres 3, 4 and wingers 2,5 are old school Ask Watson as he goes thro his ‘process’ I suddenly realised this when we played at Bradford few years ago heading towards the £1m game and Morley played loose forward…not the fastest player on the field and. Bradford hammered us with speed I understand your argument but who is most likely to provide best within the spine in the loose position?
Who covers best in defence and who has the best off load ratio? And are they the same person?
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Post by JJR on Nov 20, 2022 12:59:08 GMT
Bit beyond me Russ but what I did see yesterday was the power and strength of the Oz second rowers…they were match winners
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Post by russ on Nov 20, 2022 15:06:56 GMT
Bit beyond me Russ but what I did see yesterday was the power and strength of the Oz second rowers…they were match winners I think that's not the first time you've suggested you can't can't see it and I don't believe that for a minute.
Those second rowers were good, it has to be said, but against a side not at it's best on the day.
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