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Post by bandgeekmafia78 on Nov 15, 2016 12:10:16 GMT
Is it time that we brought back the 'War of the Roses' game? I'd love to watch it and I think it would be popular with the fans.
Also, who would you have in your line-ups?
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Post by Carnster on Nov 15, 2016 12:17:24 GMT
The trouble with war of the roses is that it actually isolates a large number of very good players. Cumbrians, southern born, and more. Maybe a more inclusive contest, but I'm not sure how you could fairly divide it up evenly. Maybe Cumbria/Lancashire v Yorkshire/Rest of UK. Although that may be slightly unbalanced. I don't know tbh...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 12:20:48 GMT
If I'm honest sod the rest it's the same in Australia there are players from other States and the Kiwis who miss out.
Make it a 3 game series, get a winner takes all prize and let Sky over egg the pudding (think MPG hype), no fans voting for who gets included, phone calls for venues or other gimmicks just a real battle.
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Post by bandgeekmafia78 on Nov 15, 2016 12:26:11 GMT
What if it was Lancashire-based players vs Yorkshire-based players i.e. the best players from Leeds/Huddersfield/Hull vs Wigan/Warrington/Salford etc. regardless of their nationality?
That way, the only players who wouldn't be able to participate would be anyone in the Catalans team.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 12:40:48 GMT
No sorry just Lancs & Yorks players, we have a history of trying this type of thing and making a mess of it by diluting what in essence is a good idea. Commit to playing the games for 3 years so the idea has time to grow and as happened in SOO try and get the first few games to have some real angst to get the crown invested in it also.
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Post by hammerlessnail on Nov 15, 2016 12:49:30 GMT
No sorry just Lancs & Yorks players, we have a history of trying this type of thing and making a mess of it by diluting what in essence is a good idea. Commit to playing the games for 3 years so the idea has time to grow and as happened in SOO try and get the first few games to have some real angst to get the crown invested in it also. If you want this to be a trial for international selection - which surely is the objective - then eliminating Cumbria and the rest of the UK seems short sighted. |
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Post by dixon13 on Nov 15, 2016 15:08:39 GMT
Is it time that we brought back the ' War of the Roses' game? I'd love to watch it and I think it would be popular with the fans. Also, who would you have in your line-ups? We have tried it.It did not work |
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Post by bonitared on Nov 15, 2016 16:49:05 GMT
I agree.
Tried it,and it was worth doing, but it failed and nothing to suggest it'd work next time round
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Post by russ on Nov 16, 2016 21:18:14 GMT
I agree. Tried it,and it was worth doing, but it failed and nothing to suggest it'd work next time round I seem to remember it was tried but very badly and then dumped. The question of whether it failed or not is debatable. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 22:11:31 GMT
No sorry just Lancs & Yorks players, we have a history of trying this type of thing and making a mess of it by diluting what in essence is a good idea. Commit to playing the games for 3 years so the idea has time to grow and as happened in SOO try and get the first few games to have some real angst to get the crown invested in it also. If you want this to be a trial for international selection - which surely is the objective - then eliminating Cumbria and the rest of the UK seems short sighted. Sorry I forgot this was posted. True, but there is a fine line, incorporate all British born RL players and you dilute the concept don't include them and they there is a risk they are under cooked. To work the Roses games have to be purely Lancs V Yorks and there needs to be on field needle and angst as after all it is what cemented SOO as the institution it is today. Let's face it he French team are average at best, sad as it makes me the Welsh team are pants as are Scotland and Ireland. I'm talking non heritage players mind. Solution, a 3 game series where Lancashire and Yorkshire play run along side a competition where the best of the rest of the English, Irish, Scottish and Welsh born players take part in a series against the French team. That way pretty much every international grade player gets the chance of intense RL. Play a game in Paris, Cardiff, Dublin, Edinburgh/Glasgow. To give participation in this credence reintroduce Lions tours every other season, then the lower tier teams play proper tours so pretty much every player throughout RL gets to tour and experience what it is lie, then hopefully it inspires them and the next generation to participate. There is only one country that RL is the national sport so why are all the RL playing nations not visiting and playing against PNG? Sure a best of the rest GB & I team would be well received and find a very decent level of opposition there. Sorry I've digressed just a tad. |
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Post by hammerlessnail on Nov 17, 2016 14:55:33 GMT
If you want this to be a trial for international selection - which surely is the objective - then eliminating Cumbria and the rest of the UK seems short sighted. Sorry I forgot this was posted. True, but there is a fine line, incorporate all British born RL players and you dilute the concept don't include them and they there is a risk they are under cooked. To work the Roses games have to be purely Lancs V Yorks and there needs to be on field needle and angst as after all it is what cemented SOO as the institution it is today. Let's face it he French team are average at best, sad as it makes me the Welsh team are pants as are Scotland and Ireland. I'm talking non heritage players mind. Solution, a 3 game series where Lancashire and Yorkshire play run along side a competition where the best of the rest of the English, Irish, Scottish and Welsh born players take part in a series against the French team. That way pretty much every international grade player gets the chance of intense RL. Play a game in Paris, Cardiff, Dublin, Edinburgh/Glasgow. To give participation in this credence reintroduce Lions tours every other season, then the lower tier teams play proper tours so pretty much every player throughout RL gets to tour and experience what it is lie, then hopefully it inspires them and the next generation to participate. There is only one country that RL is the national sport so why are all the RL playing nations not visiting and playing against PNG? Sure a best of the rest GB & I team would be well received and find a very decent level of opposition there. Sorry I've digressed just a tad. I can see problems with everything that's being suggested (e.g., I doubt whether a Lancashire v Yorkshire series would ever generate the interest or be played to the same level of intensity that SoO is) but I haven't got any better suggestions of my own. I guess this is the dilemma RL faces: there are no obvious solutions. My gut feeling is that a county series wouldn't work and that the sport should stick with internationals. So, commit to the 4 Nations every year (except World Cup years), and incorporate PNG either by extending it to a 5 Nations or by having mid season internationals against them. |
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