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Post by bigkeev on Dec 24, 2021 10:47:16 GMT
To be honest I agree with everything that’s being said, personally I’ve followed all the advice and am fully boosted up, to me it’s a no brainer. I’ve also tried as hard as possible to look beyond the headlines and read up on other people’s opinions, most of which I really don’t agree with but in the interests of debate I try to look outside my own echo chamber, (I hate being told to do some research by conspiracy theorist anti Vaxxers!) and still feel the same. But, I find it hard that people can lose their jobs because they don’t want to take a vaccine. Again, maybe I’m wrong here, but are other vaccines (eg Flu) mandatory? Maybe they are in NHS or care homes, but I’ve never heard of it. I know it’s different, we’ve mostly got some kind of antibodies to flu, but it can still be passed on, it can still kill. I struggle with it as I completely agree everyone should have it, I know from speaking to people in the front line almost 100% of hospitalised Covid patients are non vaccinated. I feel similarly to yourself mate. I find most of the Anti-Vax rhetoric tiresome, and get especially wound up by the global elite/Illuminati, conspiracy stuff especially when speaking to a number of these people they imply some kind of special insight that the rest of us "Sheeple" arent privvy to. Like Googling stuff whilst sat on the bog really counts as "Research"! However saying all that I do believe people are entitled to an opinion, and I agree should never be forcibly medicated. But.....Ultimately the decisions these people make do effect others so I suppose then it becomes a similar issue to "Free Speech". Freedom to think or do something isnt the same as freedom from consequence. This being the case in certain circumstances those that take this stand may have to sacrifice continuing in their chosen profession. My wife is an OT working for the NHS and long before Covid there were certain vaccinations she HAD to take in order to be employed in her role. Had she chosen to refuse, there was nothing to prevent her finding employment in another field, but that would have been the consequence. Rugby League players however unpallitable they find it may need to make similar decisions. Whatever side of the fence you sit on its a highly emotive issue, and in some ways there are no right or wrong answers simply perspective. |
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Post by steveh on Dec 29, 2021 12:05:06 GMT
If they believe that the vaccination can have potential side effects that could hinder their performance and therefore threaten their careers, then I can understand their reluctance to get the jabs. However, Covid 19 itself could cause long term medical conditions that could also threaten their careers so it's a risk they are obviously willing to take.
On a slightly different note, has anyone else noticed a correlation between anti-vaxxers/covid-deniers and the flat-earthers and poisoned chemtrail believers? I love the conspiracy theories they spout that the vaccine injects nanobots or mind control chips created by Bill Gates in to your system. The most recent is that it injects AI (artificial intelligence) in to their systems - I wish this was true as at least they would have some intelligence then lol
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Post by Carnster on Dec 29, 2021 15:14:36 GMT
On a slightly different note, has anyone else noticed a correlation between anti-vaxxers/covid-deniers and the flat-earthers and poisoned chemtrail believers? I love the conspiracy theories they spout that the vaccine injects nanobots or mind control chips created by Bill Gates in to your system. The most recent is that it injects AI (artificial intelligence) in to their systems - I wish this was true as at least they would have some intelligence then lol I was reading an article about this issue. It's worth remembering that those people without sufficient critical thinking skills are generally susceptible to these kind of things. So it isn't surprising that faulty thinking on one subject also stands true with other spurious claims and beliefs. It must be exhausting thinking like that. The way they have to bend and tie themselves up in knots to avoid reality cannot be healthy. The trouble is, facts and reality slide off them like teflon. So it's a pointless task pointing out reality to them. I think they can only come out of it if they have an epiphany about their own thought processes and start doing things right. Modern media and society certainly doesn't help things. Allowing anti-vaxers to only listen to each other instead of valid arguments against them only reinforces the madness, and our modern sensibilities that seem to think that 'My opinion' is as valid as 'your facts' is something that really needs to change. |
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Post by JJR on Dec 29, 2021 15:32:41 GMT
Choice is one of the mainstays of our system but we have to have balance. No jab no privileges; so no jab stay at home and wait til the rest of us have got it sorted via vaccines.
The thing that riles me is that those vaccinated take a slight risk whilst those not get the benefits of it slowing down without the risk others have taken.
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Post by steveh on Dec 29, 2021 15:38:10 GMT
On a slightly different note, has anyone else noticed a correlation between anti-vaxxers/covid-deniers and the flat-earthers and poisoned chemtrail believers? I love the conspiracy theories they spout that the vaccine injects nanobots or mind control chips created by Bill Gates in to your system. The most recent is that it injects AI (artificial intelligence) in to their systems - I wish this was true as at least they would have some intelligence then lol I was reading an article about this issue. It's worth remembering that those people without sufficient critical thinking skills are generally susceptible to these kind of things. So it isn't surprising that faulty thinking on one subject also stands true with other spurious claims and beliefs. It must be exhausting thinking like that. The way they have to bend and tie themselves up in knots to avoid reality cannot be healthy. The trouble is, facts and reality slide off them like teflon. So it's a pointless task pointing out reality to them. I think they can only come out of it if they have an epiphany about their own thought processes and start doing things right. Modern media and society certainly doesn't help things. Allowing anti-vaxers to only listen to each other instead of valid arguments against them only reinforces the madness, and our modern sensibilities that seem to think that 'My opinion' is as valid as 'your facts' is something that really needs to change. Yep, I know this from experience. My eldest step-daughter is a flat-earther, anti-vaxxer, etc. She gets most of the junk ideas from watching videos on a well know video sharing platform and thinks they wouldn't be on there if they weren't true  |
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Post by JJR on Dec 29, 2021 15:39:12 GMT
On a slightly different note, has anyone else noticed a correlation between anti-vaxxers/covid-deniers and the flat-earthers and poisoned chemtrail believers? I love the conspiracy theories they spout that the vaccine injects nanobots or mind control chips created by Bill Gates in to your system. The most recent is that it injects AI (artificial intelligence) in to their systems - I wish this was true as at least they would have some intelligence then lol I was reading an article about this issue. It's worth remembering that those people without sufficient critical thinking skills are generally susceptible to these kind of things. So it isn't surprising that faulty thinking on one subject also stands true with other spurious claims and beliefs. It must be exhausting thinking like that. The way they have to bend and tie themselves up in knots to avoid reality cannot be healthy. The trouble is, facts and reality slide off them like teflon. So it's a pointless task pointing out reality to them. I think they can only come out of it if they have an epiphany about their own thought processes and start doing things right. Modern media and society certainly doesn't help things. Allowing anti-vaxers to only listen to each other instead of valid arguments against them only reinforces the madness, and our modern sensibilities that seem to think that 'My opinion' is as valid as 'your facts' is something that really needs to change. The only facts to be considered are those emanating from ‘peer reviewed research’ but sadly those of my friends who are anti-vac don’t understand what the term means. Possibly this might be the basis of media coverage to try and get thro to these people the difference between qualified facts and whatever they pick up. Then they can go forward and argue their case without hiding behind whatever medium they use. Anyway enough this is a RL site🤣 |
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Post by hillbillyred on Dec 30, 2021 13:09:44 GMT
Sadly I fail the "The only facts to be considered are those emanating from ‘peer reviewed research’" test : I support Salford!
🤣🤣😆😉😉
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Post by kreuzbergred on Dec 30, 2021 19:07:14 GMT
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Post by hillbillyred on Dec 31, 2021 7:06:15 GMT
Looking at the Government's record of the last year and nine months, I would not bet a penny on that.
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Post by kreuzbergred on Jan 3, 2022 23:20:15 GMT
I assume that the PPE (Personal Protective equipment) if your unaware what it means If you've been living on another planet or West Yorkshire (Same thing) ££ Bill per month for every Superleague club must be a unwanted but Unnecessary expense, But can you imagine what it's like for certain SL Teams Cas/Wakefield Hull KR Etc Custom made gear to fit extra fingers and Webbed feet 😳🤪 🧐 . No doubt all brought in from China
They've got all the Angles Covered
Not that Ones your thinking of
You know the ones
Who Founded several kingdoms of the Heptarchy in Anglo-Saxon England.
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Post by kreuzbergred on Jan 5, 2022 18:39:17 GMT
Apparently Travelling to France & the UK
For sport may be allowed before the start of Superleague So fingers 🤞 for Toulouse 20th Feb
Story on twitter @catalanmedia
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Post by redluca on Jan 6, 2022 21:44:49 GMT
Wow some absolute freaks In here, can only assume you are all old and have unhealthy life styles or absolute **** bags who have allowed the media to scare the **** out of you about a virus with a 99 plus % survival rate, . You say people should have a choice if they take the vaccine or not but then say they should lose these jobs or freedoms, are you nazi’s or something listen to yourselves for **** sake. For a young healthy sports person the vaccine is completely pointless they can still catch Covid, spread Covid and die from Covid, zero evidence the vaccine decreases the chances of spreading the virus so stop making things up, the fact Most people I know who are triple jabbed, yes triple Jabbed within 12 months , have all caught Covid, and most effected worse than my own unvaccinated self tells you everything you need to know. Jurgen Klopp (German of course) is another absolute brainwashed idiot like most in here sound, guess what he’s triple jabbed and still got Covid. People who wish not to take this trial drug, yes trial drug are not anti Vax, they are not conspiracy theorists , they are sensible humans making an informed medical decision they are all entitled to, the vaccine is showing as more of a threat to our health than the virus, look at all the young sports stars collapsing with heart issues. I guarantee in years to come you will all look back and wonder how you got this so wrong. Good luck on your 6th booster at the end of 2022. You will soon all be classified as unvaccinated when booster 4 comes out so be sure to rush to the nearest pop up drug stand for your heroin , arseholes
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Post by twistthemellonman on Jan 6, 2022 23:08:29 GMT
Wow some absolute freaks In here, can only assume you are all old and have unhealthy life styles or absolute **** bags who have allowed the media to scare the **** out of you about a virus with a 99 plus % survival rate, . You say people should have a choice if they take the vaccine or not but then say they should lose these jobs or freedoms, are you nazi’s or something listen to yourselves for **** sake. For a young healthy sports person the vaccine is completely pointless they can still catch Covid, spread Covid and die from Covid, zero evidence the vaccine decreases the chances of spreading the virus so stop making things up, the fact Most people I know who are triple jabbed, yes triple Jabbed within 12 months , have all caught Covid, and most effected worse than my own unvaccinated self tells you everything you need to know. Jurgen Klopp (German of course) is another absolute brainwashed idiot like most in here sound, guess what he’s triple jabbed and still got Covid. People who wish not to take this trial drug, yes trial drug are not anti Vax, they are not conspiracy theorists , they are sensible humans making an informed medical decision they are all entitled to, the vaccine is showing as more of a threat to our health than the virus, look at all the young sports stars collapsing with heart issues. I guarantee in years to come you will all look back and wonder how you got this so wrong. Good luck on your 6th booster at the end of 2022. You will soon all be classified as unvaccinated when booster 4 comes out so be sure to rush to the nearest pop up drug stand for your heroin , arseholes no one is reading that gob$hite paragraph pal |
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Post by kilop on Jan 7, 2022 5:52:12 GMT
Haha, yeah just move on. It beggers belief tbh.
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Post by hillbillyred on Jan 7, 2022 7:43:24 GMT
Oh come on, nothing wrong with Socratic argument (not that this post is either Socratic or argument)
"Hatred is something peculiar. You will always find it strongest and most violent where there is the lowest degree of culture."
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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