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Post by middleman on Oct 25, 2016 18:19:42 GMT
Here's one that could be Both RL & Brexit Operational Rules– Super League Salary Cap Regulations – Season 2016 A3:9 Each Club shall comply with the Super League Salary Cap Rules (a) for British based clubs, £1,825,000 (One Million Nine Hundred and Twenty Five Thousand Pounds) (or such amount as determined prior to the Salary Cap Year in question by a majority vote of the British clubs), or
(b) for clubs based in a country with the Euro as its currency, €2,300,000 (Euros) (or such amount as determined prior to the Salary Cap Year in question by the Board of Super League Europe Limited whose decision and brief reasons will be circulated to all Super League clubs), At present with the current Allocation - the Allowance For Catalans is now an equivalent £2,072,072 Pounds giving them a £247K advantage .
the obvious decision would be to down scale the Euro equivalent to 2,025,750 Euros to bring parity to the allocation the UK based clubs can spend .
They've no choice otherwise the RFL would have to find £2.7 million shrinking pounds to re balance the cap for the other 11 clubs
If I were Catalan I would have a case to say they have commitments & contracts to honour based on the 2016 allocation ...
So the French club will have ' Carte Blanche ' to operate 14% above any of the UK clubs for the foreseeable future .
Over the last year the GBP has lost 26% of it's value to the AUS Dollar ( 2.17 to 1.59 ) meaning Good GB based Players are ' Cheaper than Ever ' for NRL clubs weighed down by their $Aus 7 million (£ 4.4M ) 2017 salary cap.
In 2016 - the MINIMUM contract for an NRL squad player was $82,500 AUS + a $1,000 AUS Appearance fee per game ( = 60,000 GBP if he played 12 games ) - any other income - Sponsors Cars - Image Rights - advertising revenue not using Clubs / NRL branding aren't counted - neither is Accommodation costs.
The Euro by comparison has only dropped 11% against the AUS Dollar meaning another advantage in dealing with ' Overseas Signings ' .
Not Knocking Catalans as this is just fortuitous - however there are serious consequences that the SL /RFL have to discuss :-
to re balance the spend for the SL clubs & to defend further drift of International quality UK players away from UK based clubs. as the Comp is being devalued in more ways than one .
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Post by Carnster on Oct 25, 2016 18:31:43 GMT
It'll never work or happen unless the powers that be think it's actually their own idea. The fact that they can't get a grip on simple things would probably preclude them from this particular fact.
It's a very valid point, mm.
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Post by middleman on Oct 25, 2016 18:42:07 GMT
Carnster , I cannot see this imbalance changing for the foreseeable future -
Only 1 chairman voted against the current deal in 2014 - that was Salford Red Devils owner Marwan Koukash.
SL / RFL are stuck with the deal until 2019 - with a broadcaster who quality of program seems to diminish year on year
Can't even be bothered to show games on Actual TV - a lot streamed + no Championship coverage- CC etc .
By 2019 the SL will be even more a 2nd class Bankrupt Competition with all our best players playing in a different Hemisphere.
they'll brush it under the Red Hall Carpet & paint a rosy future I'm sure.
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Post by russ on Oct 25, 2016 18:42:23 GMT
This is a really good argument middleman.
But when you think that the SC has done nothing towards making a level playing field since its inception and nothing has been done about that why would the RFL look into this?
The only thing the SC rules have been good for has been to help other fans having a go at our club.
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Post by rednotdead on Oct 25, 2016 20:54:42 GMT
Good point Russ. They really need more fodder to sling at us. The cap doesn't work and I can't see how it will ever work. I was all for it when it was initiated but hindsight is wonderful
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Post by red666 on Oct 25, 2016 20:54:46 GMT
To be fair to the rfl, the sudden drop in the value of the pound vs the euro and dollar was probably not something they envisaged when setting their cap rate for last season, or at all. Perhaps the re-evaluation of the cap for 2017 has put Catalans under added pressure, hence the departures of Taylor, navrette, pellisier.
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Post by rednotdead on Oct 25, 2016 21:01:07 GMT
That is out of their control. Even MK couldn't blame that on them. Everything else is their fault, disease, famine, a pocket full of change that's not enough for what you need
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 21:07:08 GMT
But we can blame the RFL, how can you have a fair system when the exchange rate is fluid, the way sterling is going we'll be working it out in washers before long.
I maintain that due to the limited nature of SL all monies should be paid centrally by the authorities, then there can't be any salary cap issues and there must be 100% transparency.
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Post by rednotdead on Oct 25, 2016 21:09:41 GMT
You've got a point there. If that would solve the issue, I'm all for it
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Post by red666 on Oct 25, 2016 22:01:05 GMT
But we can blame the RFL, how can you have a fair system when the exchange rate is fluid, the way sterling is going we'll be working it out in washers before long. I maintain that due to the limited nature of SL all monies should be paid centrally by the authorities, then there can't be any salary cap issues and there must be 100% transparency. For the purposes of each clubs budgeting, a line in the sand would have to be drawn and an agreed exchange rate used. even for washers. Set prior to the point in the season when clubs can start to approach/retain players |
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Post by middleman on Oct 25, 2016 22:11:08 GMT
Of course RFL + SLE are to blame,
The deal is now only worth 75% of its 2014 value. What will it be worth in 2019?
No renegotiation cause for inflation or currency despite it being a 5 yr deal
No period to investigate other options, thats why MK publicly condemned the deal.
It's proven prescient.
They had to spread the deal wider to accomodate championship clubs and the qualifiers.
And thus partly why SRD were given reduced funding.
If you want to watch the Eng pack play club rl , you need to watch premier sports now.
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Post by red666 on Oct 25, 2016 22:31:51 GMT
Of course RFL + SLE are to blame, The deal is now only worth 75% of its 2014 value. What will it be worth in 2019? No renegotiation cause for inflation or currency despite it being a 5 yr deal No period to investigate other options, thats why MK publicly condemned the deal. It's proven prescient. They had to spread the deal wider to accomodate championship clubs and the qualifiers. And thus partly why SRD were given reduced funding. If you want to watch the Eng pack play club rl , you need to watch premier sports now. Ah, apologies - i'm talking about something different - the rate used to determine the cap for £'s and €'s rather than the tv deal.
I agree about the deal, i'm surprised a contract of that length doesn't have a mechanism/matrix built in to allow for adjustments. I suspect that sky deal was the only one going to be signed regardless of other options on the table
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Post by russ on Oct 26, 2016 3:04:07 GMT
Truth is they are all related.
I was for the salary cap too when I thought it would stop clubs overspending and mean everyone is level but neither of these has happened.Even trying to raise the cap has failed.
I believe that at least some of those players who went to the NRL would have gone anyway but when SL clubs are not even in the hunt it becomes ridiculous.
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Post by andyh0064 on Oct 26, 2016 20:47:33 GMT
Who cares about Europe? Teams that can read words, and not just numbers, already get an extra 100k!
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Post by russ on Oct 27, 2016 9:31:41 GMT
Good point Russ. They really need more fodder to sling at us. The cap doesn't work and I can't see how it will ever work. I was all for it when it was initiated but hindsight is wonderful No the cap doesn't work, too easy to get round. Or to put it another way it works really well for the clubs that have found the best and most invisible ways to get round it. But when loaded from the start with a percentage of income clause it was always going to favour those at the top and help keep them there. Being there or thereabouts for trophies makes you more attractive to players so it's a win win for them even in what might be considered lean years. Also funny how the RFL never considered points refund for cocking up over Dobbo? |
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