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Post by bonitared on Apr 15, 2021 19:31:38 GMT
Just like scrums, refs can find a reason to penalise offside at every play the ball , if they choose
I’ve recently started watching the nrl far more and I can’t recall seeing a ref blow for offside from a play the ball
No idea why, unless they take them further back and allow some infringement.
Just seen Kendall blow up for one and , on that basis, he could have blown every tackle
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Post by russ on Apr 15, 2021 21:19:24 GMT
The more you watch NRL the more their refs will annoy you too bonita.
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Post by JJR on Apr 16, 2021 6:57:18 GMT
I do hope you're not saying Kendall is better than Oz refs
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Post by Carnster on Apr 16, 2021 7:37:52 GMT
NRL is played at a much faster pace than SL. Quicker PTB's and less time wrestling on the floor. This speed makes reffing offsides a more fluid thing for NRL refs. Less likely to blow a penalty for players a foot either side, and only blowing for obvious infringements. Also, the six again seems to be being used occasionally to penalise teams rather than slow down the momentum of another team, even though it's not really meant for that infringement. I just wish the speed of the game would increase around the PTB for SL. SL coaches have turned SL into who can manipulate the rules the best and it impacts on the spectacle in my opinion.
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Post by russ on Apr 16, 2021 11:49:50 GMT
I do hope you're not saying Kendall is better than Oz refs No I think it's much of a muchness.
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Post by russ on Apr 16, 2021 11:52:17 GMT
NRL is played at a much faster pace than SL. Quicker PTB's and less time wrestling on the floor. This speed makes reffing offsides a more fluid thing for NRL refs. Less likely to blow a penalty for players a foot either side, and only blowing for obvious infringements. Also, the six again seems to be being used occasionally to penalise teams rather than slow down the momentum of another team, even though it's not really meant for that infringement. I just wish the speed of the game would increase around the PTB for SL. SL coaches have turned SL into who can manipulate the rules the best and it impacts on the spectacle in my opinion. It is quicker Carnster but not necessarily at the Tackle/ptb/wrestle end of the game.
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Post by JJR on Apr 16, 2021 11:52:42 GMT
I think the big difference between Oz refs and UK refs ( except for Thaler, who I think is up to Oz standard) is that our refs pick up little incidents and so are continually blowing and miss the important ones...offsides at ptb and kicks, forward passes, foul play. If you watch the captain's call in Oz, rarely does the ref get it wrong.
Think of the Challenge Cup Final, the niggly not standing up fully and playing the ball by Pauli accusation, you could say, cost us the Cup...pathetic
Kendall when reffing internationals abroad was so bad that the video ref had to advise him
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Post by russ on Apr 16, 2021 12:20:59 GMT
I think the big difference between Oz refs and UK refs ........ is that our refs pick up little incidents and so are continually blowing and miss the important ones...offsides at ptb and kicks, forward passes, foul play. If you watch the captain's call in Oz, rarely does the ref get it wrong. Much of the response or game performance of Oz refs seems to have been determined by the reaction of coaches and media and may even be instructions from the top too, to keep the game flowing.
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Post by giasf on Apr 16, 2021 12:29:42 GMT
NRL referees are more interested in creating a fair competition than SL refs are. In SL it’s more about applying the rule of the law — that awful call by Kendall last night towards the end of the game sums it up. NRL refs naturally don’t always get it right but they are much closer to where they should be than our bunch are.
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Post by bonitared on Apr 16, 2021 12:42:43 GMT
NRL referees are more interested in creating a fair competition than SL refs are. In SL it’s more about applying the rule of the law — that awful call by Kendall last night towards the end of the game sums it up. NRL refs naturally don’t always get it right but they are much closer to where they should be than our bunch are. Totally correct,it was watching Kendal that prompted me,and that was before the ridiculous PTB penalty which defied common sense |
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 16, 2021 13:30:01 GMT
Some say they are an easy target,that may be so.You could say they make their selves easy targets,with how they referee.Take the grand final the more I thought about it the conclusion is the same, we were never going to win it,Kendal was never going to allow it.Yes the best team won,but they got an helping hand.Saints were good enough they didn't need it.Thats why I think the majority of referee's today do them selves and the game a disservice,all fans want is a fair shake,that Saturday night we didnt get it.kendal was out of is depths,as he was later on the other side of the world.
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Post by hillbillyred on Apr 16, 2021 15:18:58 GMT
To be fair, Dixon, any ref in the Grand Final would have been turned by Saints' owners' remarks about the ref after the Challenge Cup final.
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Post by JJR on Apr 16, 2021 19:47:58 GMT
To be fair, Dixon, any ref in the Grand Final would have been turned by Saints' owners' remarks about the ref after the Challenge Cup final. Thaler wouldn't as he showed in the semi against Wigan; they tried everything and he penalised them, even their normal 'everyone up two yards at the ptb' didn't work Kendall completely out of his depth |
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 16, 2021 21:51:59 GMT
To be fair, Dixon, any ref in the Grand Final would have been turned by Saints' owners' remarks about the ref after the Challenge Cup final. Hillbilly Red. I take on board what you say,but if he was swayed by what their chairman said,in my eyes that made kendal's performance worse,no the man was definitely out of is depth. |
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