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Post by redunderthebed on Oct 19, 2016 21:07:35 GMT
I suspect it is being replaced by the new college team. Don't know all the details of that but I think it's a BTEC course so they get a qualification. No idea of its better or worse for player production. The foundation still has significant plans for player development as far as I know but can't see how that will work now I think it will spell the end of the pathway for juniors from local amateur clubs which would be a real shame as that felt like one of the most positive steps we've made in a long time I'm going to wait and see what the full detail is before I judge it properly
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Post by redunderthebed on Oct 19, 2016 21:11:21 GMT
Definately not a rumour...... From what is said on twitter it seems a real shame for the u19 players. It is good that they are continuing the college team but I want to know what else there is. I notice the u16s isn't mentioned Hard to see many positives in this move
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 21:24:35 GMT
While the schooling side of this is admirable there are glaring issues with it.
What happens if there is a late bloomer playing for a local amateur team who doesn't want to go to collage? For it to work there needs to be two levels, one who want to attend the education side and those for who it just isn't them.
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Post by Astleyred on Oct 20, 2016 6:36:39 GMT
I'm sure in this day and age, it's a duty of care from the club to offer some sort of educational package.
Say a player spends 2 years in the youth / acadamey set up and doesn't make it. Where does that leave them, dejected, nothing to show to their name for the past 2 years, atleast the educational side is there for that. Like you say I'm not sure re the non academic ones, but Btecs aren't that difficult and they have the guidance.
I was told Man City started this a few seasons back, when they built their new acadamey campus. offering contracts with education, so if they didn't make it footballing wise they could stay on and finish the education. If I was a parent (even though a red through and through), I'd have to let me head rule my heart, this would be the option I'd take for the kids sake.
I know that's deviated from the original comment, but I personally think the educational side of things is as important as the rugby side, in developing these youngsters and giving them every chance.
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Post by bandgeekmafia78 on Oct 20, 2016 7:25:36 GMT
I think you're right astleyred - I would guess that the club offers a Functional Skills course which ensures they get Maths and English qualifications. I work at a college for talented up and coming musicians, and we offer this just in case they don't manage to make a career out of it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 7:57:26 GMT
If we are going to do this properly someone from the club needs to get in touch with Phil Gould at Penrith as they have the best system in Australia and have just invested money we can only dream on.
In theory it is a good idea, I just wonder why we have cut them all lose if there is a new option available, they can't surely have all turned down the offer of further education.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 8:06:50 GMT
The harsh reality is that the talent pool in Salford as very limited so with the best will in the world the club are never going to have a team half full of people who used to play at Langworthy or Eccles.
The only way you are going to get good youngsters is if you make the system you have in place for them appealing to their parents, the best facilities, education, rehabilitation, incentives and from my old playing days interaction with the players they want to emulate (nothing is more motivating than a Sau or Koppy helping out with a training session and passing of help & advice).
We are a very localised game and if done right that would be to our advantage, youngsters from the Lancashire catchment area are easy to get to the club, hell if you get the right amount of interest from an area you bus them in.
I would think that the club should be looking at a sponsor to help with this, ideal would be Ikea who must have a budget for that kind of thing, new massive outlet and lots of publicity of them helping local youngsters turn into local superstars.
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Post by Astleyred on Oct 20, 2016 8:44:35 GMT
It pisses me off when the comments you get from the club that fans shouldn't jump to conclusions before future plans have been announced.
Why do things arse about tit, surely they should've spoken with everyone involved with the academy and then issued an official statement, to prevent "the jumping to conclusions" and inevitable fallout.
This just has another Salford failure written all over it, although it doesn't affect us fans directly at this moment in time, it affects the clubs future going forward.
So from the positivity of good initial season ticket sales and pushing for more sales, to the negativity of disbanding the academy......oh to be a Salford fan!
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Post by pantherred on Oct 20, 2016 10:50:53 GMT
All part of MKs cost cutting that he announced when he said he was staying. Some real talent heading to the Wigan Academy and nothing to do with the education and welfare of the boys. If we are getting rid of an incubator system for future players we will always be paying top dollar for talent OR have to take what's on offer. Very disappointing.
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Post by scoot on Oct 20, 2016 17:51:56 GMT
Can't see any sort of confirmation about the Academy so hopefully it is just a stupid rumour because for the life of me can't see any point in this on any level. It's not on the SRD website so it cannot be true
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