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Post by kreuzbergred on Sept 7, 2020 21:53:21 GMT
At Swinton Station Road ! ! ! , They'd call that Dad Dancing these days .
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Post by JJR on Sept 8, 2020 7:32:07 GMT
Should be compulsory before every match
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Post by Carnster on Sept 8, 2020 9:36:05 GMT
I've often puzzled over this. I understand the Haka and other indigenous peoples performing their cultural war dances but never really understood why the Aussies did this. It looks, frankly, laughable. Like line dancing.
Anyone know the story behind this? I'd love to know why.
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Post by hillbillyred on Sept 8, 2020 11:48:42 GMT
I cannot find it now but the Aussies did it in earlier matches: the old site had a link to them doing it at the Willows.
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Post by JJR on Sept 8, 2020 11:54:34 GMT
It was called a war dance or a Hakka and the Aussie teams RU and RL did it early doors but the RU guys banned it. Over the past years, there's been the new on one knee celebration
Google the Oz tour to Europe of 1959-60 Oz played 37 matches inc tests against GB, France, Italy and beat Salford 22-20 with a crowd of just over 11,000 at the Willows. Swinton and Leigh both beat them
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Post by russ on Sept 9, 2020 7:39:04 GMT
At Swinton Station Road ! ! ! , They'd call that Dad Dancing these days . I think I was there at that match and the Aussie white guys always looked uncomfortable doing that, in any case stay well everyone, harder times are on the way so take care of yourselves.
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Post by Chico on Sept 10, 2020 12:07:53 GMT
I've often puzzled over this. I understand the Haka and other indigenous peoples performing their cultural war dances but never really understood why the Aussies did this. It looks, frankly, laughable. Like line dancing. Anyone know the story behind this? I'd love to know why.
The general reason is that it was popular with English crowds and became an expectation, or a marketing tool if you like. Then as the decades rolled on it became a tradition that most people had forgotten the roots of. 1967 is a key year for indiginous Australians as they became citizens by law, and as freedoms came back to them through the 1970s I guess the Australian warcry was viewed as culturally insenstive.
The roots of it are thought to be that New Zealanders who played for certain rugby sides, notably Newtown, in the early 1900s helped to create war dances for their clubs, and one of these was adopted by the Wallabies as a response to the New Zealand haka. It wasn't particularly popular with the players. However, when the All Blacks toured Britain in 1905, which was a very successful tour and huge for the growth of international rugby, their Ka Mate haka was a notable curiosity and seen as part of the draw. So, the subsequent Wallabies tour, and the Professional All-Blacks and Kangaroos tourists, also adopted this pre-match ritual. As time went on, tastes changed and it came over as ridiculous but traditions are hard to break.
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Post by Carnster on Sept 10, 2020 12:26:38 GMT
thanks Chico.
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