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Post by red54 on Nov 12, 2019 20:53:36 GMT
Both possibly in line for the GB Job if the rumour that Saturday’s game will be Wayne Bennett’s last game in Charge.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2019 9:15:03 GMT
Can't see either getting it, Powell or Wane would be the sensible choice. Oh or Bobby Goulding  |
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Post by redunderthebed on Nov 13, 2019 12:33:37 GMT
Looks like it will be the England job too. Think I’d keep Bennett for the England job given there will only be about 4 games for them between now and the World Cup and the progress England made under him.
For the GB team I think it should be a separate coach from the England one, that players from all the home nations should have to be in the squad to give them something to aspire to and encourage heritage players to choose them over England and the coaches of the four national teams should be on the GB management panel - selecting the squad, assisting the GB coach etc
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2019 19:40:13 GMT
I've often wondered why the coaches of England, Scotland and Wales aren't involved in the selection process, I mean I'm John Kear you have a font of knowledge unparalleled in British RL.
The problem with the Lions now is that we don't have the talent pool to draw from countries other than England, that said it's a travesty that Regan Grace wasn't in the squad.
There can't be any meaningful games for England in the Northern hemisphere so to just hold a 5 nations type competition will just result in England hammering everyone year in year out.
Personally I'd try a revamp of the roses games and ramp up the niggle as NSW did with Gallen back in the day.
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Post by redunderthebed on Nov 13, 2019 23:34:15 GMT
Got to think long term with GB. If you’re welsh and considering league or Union it’s a no brainier if you have the potential to get to international level. It’s union every time because of the size, rewards and chances of success. Wales RL won’t win much for a good while yet. Likewise Scotland and Ireland.
But there is more chance of getting into the League national team from those countries. And if you add in that the 2 or 3 best players from those countries will be in the GB touring squad every 4 years you’re going to get more interest. Even if some of those are not as good as some England players it will raise the quality of the other 3 and still gives a chance for 20+ English players to go
Compare this years GB squad. Given the lack of three quarters available then Grace should have been there and Kear and Williams would be better than players out of position. Would Dudson or Kopczak really be a drop in quality compared to Hill or Burgess?
The other 2 would be harder but Coote is there for Scotland anyway. Blake Ferguson wouldn’t be embarrassed in that arena.
Ireland is harder still but the likes of McCarthy would give his all.
And if players born in England of Welsh, Irish or Scottish descent know they could get into the GB team it makes them more likely to choose one of them over England and raise the standard of those teams. Look at the Tonga team now their heritage players are choosing Tonga over NZ/Aus.
In the short term there would probably be players picked from the other 3 not as good as England players but over time that could change. If you take a squad of 30-35 with mid week games against rep teams like NSW, Queensland and then Samoa, Fiji, Cook Islands with Saturday tests against Aus, NZ, Tonga and PNG everyone would get plenty of match time
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Post by red54 on Nov 14, 2019 7:53:37 GMT
I think all this GB tour has proved is how far we are behind Australia, New Zealand and now Tonga, we desperately need a rethink on the Coach, past his sell by date.
Also those players can’t have been picked on form, the likes of Hill and Hall well below par, and playing guys out of position has to stop.
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Post by Carnster on Nov 14, 2019 8:30:55 GMT
I think all this GB tour has proved is how far we are behind Australia, New Zealand and now Tonga, we desperately need a rethink on the Coach, past his sell by date. Also those players can’t have been picked on form, the likes of Hill and Hall well below par, and playing guys out of position has to stop. We're not that far behind the leading countries in RL. The majority of RL fans in this country are doom mongers with many different flavours. We're so bad, that the NRL are signing our players and, shock horror, they are part of the leading talent in the top tier of our game. We have the players, and we have the coaches to be successful. Our problem lies in the organisation of the system itself, bad choices, and picking the wrong people at the wrong time. Bennett has either gone senile or lost touch. His GB selections were bizarre, loaded too heavily in certain positions, and reeked of not really caring. This tour should have been a chance to pick fit players playing in their respective positions, with a healthy smattering of fringe players competing to push the established first choice players. Instead we got the same old nonsense. There seems to be a real mental block in British RL that players that figure for the teams with the biggest reputations should be chosen over players that deserve call-ups at less fashionable clubs. McGilvarry being the only exception. International selection is just baffling, and until we get a coach/set-up that starts rewarding players for playing at the top of their game regardless of who they play for, selects players in their actual positions, stops playing players that are knackered/injured we will always be second best, or indeed third or fourth best. The trouble we have is that, for some reason, the International management seem to think that if they keep a core of players for International duty, it will be advantageous going forward. That would be fine if we played regular Internationals. They stick to this doctrine so much that it leads to them picking the same players and playing them out of position, playing them injured, or playing players that have been injured all season but get a free pass. Just ridiculous. RL fans don't help by being generally blinkered beyond the 'top' clubs in the game and rubbishing players that deserve recognition in a position but are maybe not quite as talented as the player who should be there but has played awful all season. We start rewarding those that deserve it and abandon the doctrine of 'the same old faces' that have blighted our International set-up for decades and we'll make progress. |
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