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Post by salford1961 on Sept 16, 2018 9:31:32 GMT
After Friday's referee didn't give the most obvious Penalty to Salford and a made up one to Leeds which decided the game, We have yet another one in the Toronto v Toulouse game Note the "Awful Position" of the Touch Judge in this incident. Hope the Links Work
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Post by woody74 on Sept 16, 2018 9:59:53 GMT
After Friday's referee didn't give the most obvious Penalty to Salford and a made up one to Leeds which decided the game, We have yet another one in the Toronto v Toulouse game Note the "Awful Position" of the Touch Judge in this incident. Hope the Links Work
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Link 2If not I've Included screen shots View AttachmentView AttachmentView Attachment Easily summed up mate.. 1. Its TORONTO 2. It's LEEDS 3. We have a completely corrupt RFL.
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Post by prestwichred on Sept 16, 2018 11:34:25 GMT
Said it on another post that the RFL is corrupt. They want Toronto in SL and will do anything in their power to get them there. Hope it totally fails but I expect them to be at least in the MPG and also to be at home where all decisions will miraculously go for them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 15:04:31 GMT
It will be interesting if Toronto are at home in the MPG, as they have somehow avoided having a video ref for their home games so far, but surely one would be required for this game.
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Post by tony13 on Sept 16, 2018 16:50:38 GMT
It will be interesting if Toronto are at home in the MPG, as they have somehow avoided having a video ref for their home games so far, but surely one would be required for this game. Already in hand, mate. James Child should get his ticket from RFLTravel.com on Friday.
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Post by osrd on Sept 16, 2018 19:04:18 GMT
After Friday's referee didn't give the most obvious Penalty to Salford and a made up one to Leeds which decided the game, We have yet another one in the Toronto v Toulouse game Note the "Awful Position" of the Touch Judge in this incident. Hope the Links Work
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Link 2If not I've Included screen shots Does the touch judge who is an “awful position” look like Jack Smith,the Super League referee?
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Post by redunderthebed on Sept 16, 2018 20:55:03 GMT
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Post by woody74 on Sept 16, 2018 20:56:05 GMT
Apparently the RFL are looking into an allegation that Torontos Jack Bussey bit somebody's ear against Toulouse! I wonder which way that will go 🤔
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Post by redunderthebed on Sept 16, 2018 21:16:10 GMT
I’m struggling to believe this is a serious thread to be honest I don’t believe anyone really thinks that games are fixed but it turns out people really do think it. What always amazes me is how people only use evidence that proves their case. So the penalty vs Leeds. How does anyone on here know that there definitely wasn’t a ball steal? Or that there definitely wasn’t a hand on the ball that could have looked like a ball steal?
Child wanted Leeds to win and gave them everything apparently. People on twitter saying that we got literally no 50-50 calls. Child sin binned Ferres when almost nobody had seen what happened. Only the touch judge saw it. Not one Salford fan saw it as a crusher. So me idiots stood near me said Ferres definitely punched McCarthy on the back of the head and that Child was an F’ing cheating c*** for not giving it. Except he didn’t punch him on the head, he did do a crusher tackle and child took the report from the touch judge and binned him.
How does that fit into the corruption charge? Is it to throw us off the scent? The pass from Flash for Olpherts try was dodgy. It could have been ruled forward. Child said a Leeds player touched it. I didn’t see it at the time and it isn’t that obvious on the replay. He should have given the penalty when we were on their line. Maybe he shouldn’t have given a steal on Myler. I was gutted at the end of the Leeds game. I guess if it makes people feel better that it’s a conspiracy rather than our inability to make the right decision on the 6th tackle on their line over and over again (5 poweplays??) then so be it
The Toronto one is laughable. I’ve lost count of the number of bounced ball tries I’ve seen. Some way worse than that. It was a bad mistake but no worse than loads of others. People think Toronto get special treatment so it must be conspiracy. I haven’t checked but Toronto must have a significant penalty count against them. How does that fit the conspiracy?
This is all cock ups. Refs make mistakes in every game. As do players and coaches. Like I do most days in my job
How many people have refereed a rugby league match? I’ve reffed junior matches. It’s really hard. No way I would do that job for all the money in the world. They get paid not very much and have to put up with all this nonsense in return. No wonder we can’t recruit any
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Post by redunderthebed on Sept 16, 2018 21:17:33 GMT
Apparently the RFL are looking into an allegation that Torontos Jack Bussey bit somebody's ear against Toulouse! I wonder which way that will go 🤔 If they ban him will it prove there is no conspiracy?
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Post by salfordfan on Sept 17, 2018 13:36:47 GMT
I've become morbidly preoccupied with Mr Smith because I honestly think in a number of our games he has shown bias against us. In his first year of refereeing in SL he was appointed by the RFL to officiate in more of our games than for all the other teams games put together. I agree with redunderthebed about conspiracy theories and people not being perfect but his not seeing the no try doesn't help Toulouse much does it? In fact it could be quite costly if it denies them a place in Super League. In our Toronto match right near me Russell was caught on the last tackle on top of the touch line he tried to get rid of it it was flung by Russell into touch. Cue Jack Smith to Robert Hicks a Salford player touched it no wait for it he made a play for it. Laughable. A set of six for them on our line. Ask the players. In fact he does referee SL games in an emergency, he does send players off for racist comments when no complaint is made and he does give 3:1 penalty counts against us even at home. Criticism is valid. Swearing and abuse I agree is not. I certainly wouldn't want to go down and have him refereeing our games. In fact I can't think of a better reason to stay up where his officiating can do us the least damage.
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Post by Carnster on Sept 17, 2018 14:06:03 GMT
RL fans tend to be high on the conspiracy theory scale. Always have been.
What's at work here is good old fashioned wrong decisions and, on occasion, poor calls.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 14:11:23 GMT
I think poor officiating can come across as bias but I honestly don’t believe it ever is, at least not concious bias. My least favourite referee Childs for example annoys both sets of fans in equal measure. His penalty decision last week was, I believe, because of ego and not bias.
The only way to avoid claims of bias is to acknowledge the poor officiating and take action to rectify it. This is where the RFL fails.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 15:05:13 GMT
I think poor officiating can come across as bias but I honestly don’t believe it ever is, at least not concious bias. My least favourite referee Childs for example annoys both sets of fans in equal measure. His penalty decision last week was, I believe, because of ego and not bias. The only way to avoid claims of bias is to acknowledge the poor officiating and take action to rectify it. This is where the RFL fails. Disagree, the only way to rectify this is for all matched to have TV replay and for the officials monitoring it to be proactive when these offence and mistakes are missed.
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Post by woody74 on Sept 17, 2018 15:22:59 GMT
I think poor officiating can come across as bias but I honestly don’t believe it ever is, at least not concious bias. My least favourite referee Childs for example annoys both sets of fans in equal measure. His penalty decision last week was, I believe, because of ego and not bias. The only way to avoid claims of bias is to acknowledge the poor officiating and take action to rectify it. This is where the RFL fails. Disagree, the only way to rectify this is for all matched to have TV replay and for the officials monitoring it to be proactive when these offence and mistakes are missed. It amazes me why this isn't in place for all super league games, irrespective of whether they are televised. The only other solution is to follow the nrl and have 2 refs. People have moaned saying it would slow the game down but there's too much at stake (especially at the business end of the season) for blatant calls to go unoticed.
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