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Mar 12, 2018 8:48:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 8:48:03 GMT
Think the time has come for someone to broach the subject of Watson and his effectiveness.
At times early last season we played some scintillating rugby but there has been a steady decline from the halfway point last season (just as Carney got his ban, coincidence I don't know) to where we are now looking bereft of any attacking threat.
Can think of many SL teams that would have got rid of Watson already but I think commendably we have stuck with a Salford lad but sadly now think if a change isn't made we run the risk of steadying ourselves for the middle 8's with only the crumb of the extra home game to play for.
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Mar 12, 2018 9:09:52 GMT
Post by redunderthebed on Mar 12, 2018 9:09:52 GMT
Ha ha. Perfect. Just as the stark reality of selling our best players sinks we in you call for the coaches head Why would you care anyway? You said you were done if GOB left You’re not the first person to broach it, there’s plenty of comments on here saying the same thing and even more on social media The 5 games we’ve lost this year we also lost last year. Last year was our first year in the top 8s. Several clubs have struggled to cope with their first attempt - Wakefield and Widnes, Cas struggled until last year Hull KR were building a few years ago. Got to the CC final. Shortly into following season they sacked Chester. Look at them now. And look at Chester’s new club Only Salford could have their best ever season, then lose their owner, a couple of their best players and then have people calling for the coach’s head
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 9:11:19 GMT
He’s got the worst squad in the league and I honestly think he’s getting the best out of them. Last season he got the job done and then unfortunately the team put their feet up.
Also, do we really want to be rocking the boat any further? Where would the money come from to pay him off? Where would we get the money for someone new? Who the hell would want to take the job?!
I just don’t think it’s productive or realistic to be talking about offing Watson right now. Let the dust settle on the current issues at least.
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Post by osrd on Mar 12, 2018 9:47:11 GMT
I feel that that at the present time our fans should think a little before trying to generate a discussion about the club and it’s staff.
Ian Watson,yes he does have a Christian name,is in a very difficult position due to circumstances outside his control and how he has conducted himself,certainly since MK left us has been admirable and please let us see what develops in the next few days before we get too uptight.
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Post by boggles61 on Mar 12, 2018 9:56:23 GMT
Ian Watson is in a very difficult position , no money to play with , now it seeems we are having to save more money by off loading players part way into the season , the rest must be wondering what the f**k is going on who's next etc etc .What i find incredulous is given the background of our new oweners / board why are we only now discovering we need to say what another £200k from the playing budget surely this should have been already built into the budget well before now , Ian Watson is doing a great job with what he's got and the moral / team spirit etc must be rock bottom .
Be careful what you wish for .
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Mar 12, 2018 10:03:47 GMT
Post by salfordredforever on Mar 12, 2018 10:03:47 GMT
The run of results from the back end of last year and into this are poor reading and yes, it usually falls onto the coach and the inevitable of a `sacking` On this occasion however, I don't think there is anymore Watson can do with the quality of the team he has at his disposal and I don't think there is any coach in the land that could get more out of the team. The losing of BMM and Gaz are deflating enough from a fans point of view, but to be a coach and probably having no say in the matter due to financial difficulties, it must be soul destroying. Yes the results look poor, but his effort and desire is there for all to see. All we can and like we have over the many years of disappointment is support the club and cheer the lads on who ever runs out in that Salford shirt. I like many others are just clinging on for the next win, which I think will again be difficult against Hull next Friday, but lets just hope. The squad we have now are just not good enough and we have to be realistic in this and the change of coach will not make a blind bit of change. I certainly don't blame the players on leaving and I am sorry to see Gaz go, but I wish him the best as probably all fans do, but unless I win the Euro lottery, then nothing will change. I agree with LondonRed...don't rock the boat at this stage and he is doing his best with the team he has at his disposal.
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Mar 12, 2018 10:29:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 10:29:30 GMT
RUTB I agree with some of what you say but let's be honest we actually had a brilliant half season last year then a totally abject 1.
From what I've seen and been told (by people with a genuine knowledge of the game) we seem to be disjointed and uninterested, for me something has clearly unsettled the squad.
If that's the new board, the loss of the Doc or what you'd think must be worry on the players part as to what their future holds I don't know.
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Mar 12, 2018 11:35:30 GMT
Post by devilsadvocate on Mar 12, 2018 11:35:30 GMT
I have to admit to being a little torn on this one.If you actually look at the season before last we fell away badly at the end of that season to.So I would say that Watson had that high for half a season last year. However looking at where the club is who will we attract.A diminishing squad and financial issues is not a tempting package.
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Mar 12, 2018 11:46:55 GMT
Post by Old Dave on Mar 12, 2018 11:46:55 GMT
We need to get behind our coach who is doing his best in a difficult situation. We defend well down the middle but are suspect out wide.
There is constant criticism of some players which is not helpful and will not achieve anything. We need to be realistic about our finances and recognise we are in for a tough season.
Anyone can support a winning team although most fans understand the need to support the players and coach during a losing run.
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Mar 12, 2018 11:52:46 GMT
Post by JJR on Mar 12, 2018 11:52:46 GMT
Remember Hull kr match. We are not in the best position but we all have to dig in together. This year is survival and IW is the man, with limited resources, to do it.
Get behind the team. Remember it could be worse, you could be supporting Leigh.
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Mar 12, 2018 12:14:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 12:14:01 GMT
Watson has got his faults but for now he gets a free pass from me. He deserves a medal for some of the stuff he has had to put up with during his time at Salford.
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Mar 12, 2018 12:55:42 GMT
Post by yorkie1973 on Mar 12, 2018 12:55:42 GMT
I don't think it's healthy to be questioning the future of Ian Watson just now.
Last year started well, but we stalled badly in the second half of the season. Around that time, I'm sure Dr Koukash started to firm up plans to walk away from the club, Dobbo will have started making plans to retire, and a degree of uncertainty crept in. Think about it from a player's point of view. You might not play for the most glamorous side in the SL, but you knew you would get paid. Now even that is in question. BMM leaves to steady the ship financially and you have your fears confirmed (be they real or not).
The reality, I believe, is that we are unsettled behind the scenes. New ownership, new board, less money, players leaving (although I don't include GOB in that statement just yet). Ian Watson might not be the most talented coach in SL, but he did a lot of good work with the squad last year, and is owed, if nothing else, the chance to work with a settled team who can see where the club is going. At the end of the day, the players are human, and until the future of the club is clear, they will worry about getting paid, worry about their careers, and worry about whether they are doing enough to be under contract next season.
Right now, as gutted as we are about current results, and about GOB leaving (and BMM), we need to get behind the lads. Questioning whether the coach, or any player should be there right now is not helpful.
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Mar 12, 2018 14:05:11 GMT
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Post by dixon13 on Mar 12, 2018 14:05:11 GMT
I don't think it's healthy to be questioning the future of Ian Watson just now. Last year started well, but we stalled badly in the second half of the season. Around that time, I'm sure Dr Koukash started to firm up plans to walk away from the club, Dobbo will have started making plans to retire, and a degree of uncertainty crept in. Think about it from a player's point of view. You might not play for the most glamorous side in the SL, but you knew you would get paid. Now even that is in question. BMM leaves to steady the ship financially and you have your fears confirmed (be they real or not). The reality, I believe, is that we are unsettled behind the scenes. New ownership, new board, less money, players leaving (although I don't include GOB in that statement just yet). Ian Watson might not be the most talented coach in SL, but he did a lot of good work with the squad last year, and is owed, if nothing else, the chance to work with a settled team who can see where the club is going. At the end of the day, the players are human, and until the future of the club is clear, they will worry about getting paid, worry about their careers, and worry about whether they are doing enough to be under contract next season. Right now, as gutted as we are about current results, and about GOB leaving (and BMM), we need to get behind the lads. Questioning whether the coach, or any player should be there right now is not helpful. I personally don't think it would be wise to change the coach at this time all though at other clubs and not necessarily at top he would be under scrutiny.But I also think it is ridiculous to say they are worried about contracts for next season.If we get relegated all contracts are null and void anyway.Let's look at the season so far we were well beaten by resurgent Wigan we were beaten by resurgent Saints we beat Hull KR who are just as bad as we are and yesterday we gifted Cas three trys take the Wigan's Saints and Leeds and possibly Hull and you wouldn't get a good team out of rest put together.Let's see what the club have say instead off all the rumours on social media.Now Obrien could we afford to loose him.Yes if Watson gets the money and gets somebody better.But all we have is rumour and more rumours it's always somebody knows somebody it's getting ridiculous let's wait and see.You never know maybe Watto told Obrien he would be putting Evales at fullback,so Obrien said I am going,that's just a rumour.We had an offer for Lui but turned it down did we not.And another thing did we not sign some of what we have left to longer contracts last season,maybe shouldn't have bothered.
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Mar 12, 2018 14:25:32 GMT
Post by gunner on Mar 12, 2018 14:25:32 GMT
I don't think it's healthy to be questioning the future of Ian Watson just now. Last year started well, but we stalled badly in the second half of the season. Around that time, I'm sure Dr Koukash started to firm up plans to walk away from the club, Dobbo will have started making plans to retire, and a degree of uncertainty crept in. Think about it from a player's point of view. You might not play for the most glamorous side in the SL, but you knew you would get paid. Now even that is in question. BMM leaves to steady the ship financially and you have your fears confirmed (be they real or not). The reality, I believe, is that we are unsettled behind the scenes. New ownership, new board, less money, players leaving (although I don't include GOB in that statement just yet). Ian Watson might not be the most talented coach in SL, but he did a lot of good work with the squad last year, and is owed, if nothing else, the chance to work with a settled team who can see where the club is going. At the end of the day, the players are human, and until the future of the club is clear, they will worry about getting paid, worry about their careers, and worry about whether they are doing enough to be under contract next season. Right now, as gutted as we are about current results, and about GOB leaving (and BMM), we need to get behind the lads. Questioning whether the coach, or any player should be there right now is not helpful. Yorkie1973 good post! MR Don't agree with any of your comments IW for me if doing an ok job under extreme conditions. firstly sack the coach who are you likely to bring in with no money? A top coach no chance, the club as no money it will continue to rob peter to pay Paul, it is likely to be a very rough ride & unless there is some sugar daddy waiting in the wings we are heading to the championship no matter what coach we put in.
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Mar 12, 2018 18:40:31 GMT
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Post by mrg on Mar 12, 2018 18:40:31 GMT
I wonder if Leigh have, or are considering an offer to Ian Watson.? Just read the statement by Derek Beaumont, doesn’t say much but confirms he’s looking for a head coach.
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