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Post by greg on Jun 18, 2016 7:42:53 GMT
Really shocked at the attendance last night (1958). Over 2000 less than the Wigan game!?
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Post by Carnster on Jun 18, 2016 8:10:09 GMT
Two poorly supported sides, playing poor, at the wrong end of the table. Was always going to be a duff attendance.
If I was MK, I'd be pretty fed-up with everything to be honest. I understand that without any success, or even decent progress up the SL table, that we'll always struggle with attendances. That said, it's a catch 22 situation. We need more people through the turnstiles to increase our reduced salary cap, to bring in better players. Trouble is, we can't attract more in because the team is either under performing or we're hit with another off-field farce every season. I don't think the Club do enough to market games, but that's too simplistic an argument as to why we hardly ever get extra people in.
The Salford public are just not that interested in RL.
It's really worrying as without MK at the helm we'd have gone under a while ago, and we've just got to hope that he doesn't become as apathetic as the Salford public.
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Post by gadger on Jun 18, 2016 8:26:57 GMT
I'm massively concerned we'll get relegated this season, we've just been beaten by the 2 teams below us and we've already been beaten by the one above. We could easily lose to leigh or Bradford, I think the mpg is near certain
I was thinking last night, would going down be a bad thing? Mk seems relatively stable I dont think he'd drop us, we might get the winning habit back, obviously it would be even more difficult to sign and retain good players and the crowds will initially dwindle further. But do we need to go backwards before going forward?
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Post by Carnster on Jun 18, 2016 8:46:33 GMT
The trouble with going backwards to go forwards is that everything changes.
The current squad would be operating way above the cap for the Championship, and our better players/recently signed players would probably have their contracts voided on relegation to enable them to retain their status as SL players and enable us to operate on an even smaller cap than this season. You then have the very difficult task of getting into the MPG the next season and winning a one-off game against a team that is operating with better players, higher cap, and a season of far more intense games than we would have been doing. I think the current league set-up is just an illusion of promotion, which means that even if we were in the MPG I don't think we'd lose it. Although, with us you just never know.
I'd rather us not be involved in it, as at the end of the day it's just a one off game but looking at the quality of the teams involved this season I can't see any of them being relegated.
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Post by gadger on Jun 18, 2016 8:58:48 GMT
Yeh I agree with all that, common sense.
Such a strange season, look like world beaters one minute then don't look like winning a game the next. The points deduction must be having an effect mentally. Which in turn is having an impact on attendance. Demoralising for everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 9:06:44 GMT
say as in other seasons the players look like they have stopped playing, at times last night we made a poor Huddersfield team look good, virtually any other team in SL would have put them to the sword, the scoreline flattered us if we're honest.
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Post by scoot on Jun 18, 2016 11:39:08 GMT
Believe a lot of fans went to the Stone Roses gig last night
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Post by greg on Jun 18, 2016 11:47:04 GMT
Oddly enough, I think that our involvement in the MPG might actually reinvigorate local interest in the club. I'd rather not take the risk though!
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Post by greg on Jun 22, 2016 13:23:10 GMT
Assuming we stay in Super League, we will have a potential 20 games at the AJ Bell next year (1 friendly, 11 regular season home games, 4 super eight and one semi-final, 3 challenge cup). Why not have a season ticket which covers all of these games and market it as the '40:20' whereby you're paying £40 to watch a potential 20 fixtures. Surely this would appeal to all supporters who might just be casual attenders to the AJB, but if you could sell 10,000 of these, an overall loss in gate revenue over the season would surely be more than compensated by sales of merchandise and other matchday products, as well as an improvement on the pitch with the heightened support.
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Post by bandgeekmafia78 on Jun 22, 2016 13:51:42 GMT
Great idea, but the numbers don't add up... but in some ways they do. The 40:20 deal would bring ~£400,000 revenue over the course of the season. However, if you had just 2000 people attending each home game (paying £20 a match for 20 home games), that would bring ~£800,000 revenue. However, while it isn't financially viable in the short-term it could pay dividends over the long-term if it guarantees repeat custom for the seasons ahead, and like you say greg there would be more merchandise sold which could offset the loss made on gate receipts.
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Post by greg on Jun 22, 2016 14:09:11 GMT
Yes, it would be a short-term risk for long-term gain, but hopefully such an offer would grab the attention of the local sporting public. It would also be a nice reward for existing long-serving (suffering!) season ticket holders!
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Post by bandgeekmafia78 on Jun 22, 2016 16:18:08 GMT
I can't see the club doing this, but it could work for juniors I.e. under 16's. In turn that would encourage parents to come along to the games, regardless of the ticket price.
It's a good idea, maybe worth raising it with the club?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 16:21:16 GMT
Sorry but no junior under 14 should pay, they should get free tickets under the proviso they are accompanied by an adult.
Each home game a school should be targeted and kids invited, get a corporate sponsor on board if needed and then try to get them hooked.
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Post by greg on Jun 22, 2016 17:35:39 GMT
Free for under 16s with an accompanying (paying) adult would be perfect, I reckon. Surely the club already targets local schools with cheaper/free tickets already?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 19:28:14 GMT
Not sure they do target a school, it's fool proof really.
Pick a school and send a few players in to talk to the kids, get Dr Devil down, get the foundation involved, maybe have a skills session with them, get the school to allow a few banners advertising the game to be hung on the perimeter fencing and get the kids thinking this all looks fun.
Get the East stand a good corporate sponsor and have it packed each game with screaming kids and parents, good publicity for the club, the sponsor and when there's a TV game it takes the awful spectacle of an empty stand out of viewers eyes all game.
Make sure that all kids are accompanied by an adult and offer them say a reduced ticket or a free pit or something and then make sure that the people that turn up are offered a special deal for the next 3 home games at a reduced price to really get the kids and hopefully adults hooked.
Have said it for a long time some of the poorer communities in Salford are ripe for the club to involve them, kids identify with sporting teams, they do with football readily but the costs make it pejorative for families to go, get in there and make rugby league an affordable alternative and there's a few hundred extra bums on seats, you never know in the process the club might unearth some raw talent in the future.
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