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Post by kreuzbergred on Nov 7, 2020 0:59:18 GMT
The Way we watch Games will Differ greatly I mention this as A neighbour from Georgia (The Country not the state in USA)
Was chatting to me about RU🙄 Earlier and he told me about something called The RU Autumn Nations Cup Taking place in November & December Its Got the Six nations teams and Georgia and Fiji
The TV deal is exclusively on Amazon Prime Video. The RFL & Superleague have Seriously got to give this Type of Broadcaster a good a chance to Bid
It would be the logical thing to Do. The way people's viewing habits have changed since the original Sky deal in 1991
Apart from having to Watch the Game on a Screen of some sort obviously.
But Logic and The RFL Have never gone Hand in hand.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2020 6:17:37 GMT
Agreed.
Amazon, BT Sport, beIN SPORTS maybe even terrestrial companies like BBC & ITV (possibly to take a live game rather than the whole thing) should all be approached to see if they would be interested in bidding.
Sky shouldn't have monopoly on things like they do, the need to know that they have a brilliant product but they don't really give it the credit deserves (in terms of its presenters and financially).
We've been undervalued for to long, anything but a decent increase in the money on offer should result in going elsewhere.
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Post by bonitared on Nov 7, 2020 8:50:47 GMT
Come on guys,talk about teaching granny to suck eggs.
Elstone and his team will be certain to be talking to these guys as it’s the best way for him to keep his job,and indeed what he was recruited for.
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Post by JJR on Nov 24, 2020 7:38:21 GMT
According to the Mail, so reliability unknown, Sky have beaten off BT to secure the SL contract 2022 - 2024 inc
The deal will be less than the £40M paid now but the first big sports deal to be done since Covid started.
To be announced soon. If so well done Elstone.
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Post by giasf on Nov 24, 2020 9:57:13 GMT
Unfortunate, if the above is true, that COVID will give them to excuse to justify why we've not been able to increase the value of the TV deal by taking the game forward.
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Post by bonitared on Nov 24, 2020 10:34:14 GMT
Unfortunate, if the above is true, that COVID will give them to excuse to justify why we've not been able to increase the value of the TV deal by taking the game forward. We always think our houses are worth more than they are. In truth,they’re worth what someone will pay. Not the estate agents fault |
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Post by giasf on Nov 24, 2020 12:14:06 GMT
Unfortunate, if the above is true, that COVID will give them to excuse to justify why we've not been able to increase the value of the TV deal by taking the game forward. We always think our houses are worth more than they are. In truth,they’re worth what someone will pay. Not the estate agents fault In this case, the estate agent has full control over whether to add an extension, re-decorate... poor analogy. |
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Post by JJR on Nov 24, 2020 12:20:50 GMT
Think BR was saying that something is only worth what somebody will pay for it.
Not sure what that's to do with extensions and decorating.
It's hard times giasf so the value goes down. Life's generally about timing and the timing sadly is wrong for negotiating contracts like these
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Post by giasf on Nov 24, 2020 12:35:15 GMT
I am a career investment banker - I'm well versed in market dynamics.
My point is that Robert Elstone was brought in with a mandate to develop a product that achieves a higher price in the market - primarily more money from TV deals. He was interviewed by Flash and Wilkin on their podcast shortly after taking the role and he made it clear he saw that as his #1 objective. Assuming the reports are true that we will receive less money out of this TV deal then he has - by his own metric - failed. Not only that, but he has done as far as I can see absolutely nothing that might have increased the chance we'd negotiate a better TV deal and does not seem to have any plan in motion that will result in us getting a better deal in 2 years time when he'll have to start negotiating the next one. We have not expanded the product geographically (if we do - it'll be by accident as a result of the Toronto debacle that he mishandled) and we have done nothing to strengthen the existing clubs that I can see? In fact, next season we're almost certainly going to have to watch whichever team comes up getting flogged on a regular basis - hardly going to add value, is it? But hey - at least Super League have nudged some of the clubs to get new logos that look better on SKY and Instagram.
As I said - COVID is a lazy excuse that will gloss over the fact that we've done nothing to have earnt the improved TV deal the game so desperately needs.
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Post by JJR on Nov 24, 2020 12:59:29 GMT
As an investment banker you seem to have the same issues with the market as Elstone does with SL. So as you can see losing value is very easy in certain market conditions. Toronto was brought into the mix by the RFL remember and SL suffered the consequences. If you'd have backed Toronto I don't think I'd be using your services.
I could tell you weren't really an estate agent though.
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Post by bonitared on Nov 24, 2020 14:35:37 GMT
Neither investment bankers nor estate agents are particularly popular with the public. Just joking 😂
I do agree that,if these reports are correct,then Elstone has failed his main task. I agree that Covid shouldn’t be used as an excuse. I agree that his handling of the Toronto situation was poor. He should probably go.
The problem though with the other estate agent is that he’s called Rimmer and he’s currently selling a house in Bradford
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Post by dixon13 on Nov 24, 2020 14:58:03 GMT
Neither investment bankers nor estate agents are particularly popular with the public. Just joking 😂 I do agree that,if these reports are correct,then Elstone has failed his main task. I agree that Covid shouldn’t be used as an excuse. I agree that his handling of the Toronto situation was poor. He should probably go. The problem though with the other estate agent is that he’s called Rimmer and he’s currently selling a house in Bradford His their a Terry and Barry premium as part of the deal. |
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Post by bonitared on Nov 24, 2020 15:26:23 GMT
The house price is lower if you take that pair of idiots with it
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Post by JJR on Nov 24, 2020 15:29:12 GMT
Neither investment bankers nor estate agents are particularly popular with the public. Just joking 😂 I do agree that,if these reports are correct,then Elstone has failed his main task. I agree that Covid shouldn’t be used as an excuse. I agree that his handling of the Toronto situation was poor. He should probably go. The problem though with the other estate agent is that he’s called Rimmer and he’s currently selling a house in Bradford Disagree about Elstone. On the one hand he's got Rimmer, who to me has zero rating then he has the owners of Wigan St Helens Leeds who, in the past, ran the show. A difficult task going anywhere fighting those. I don't think you can throw away the fact of Covid, he's led the fray in surviving. I think to come out of the season with both comps being completed is an achievement. Toronto he's never backed it. From what we can gather the Business Plan was non existent and Rimmer, who caused this, still backs them. It's hard enough with Catalan and they're a short plane ride away. And for a team with no home players, can't play at home half the year, didn't want any Sky money etc then demanded it..I could never see it after a couple of years in SL. And every company is suffering, Sky amongst them, so we have a deal. Wrt funding for SL, the majority of that should come from clubs and for example at Salford is the cry ...we need a saviour. No to me Rimmer and SL clubs need a long look at themselves. With regard to Elstone, on hold til he has a good run at it. This is about power/internal politics not ability, as usual in RL |
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Post by JJR on Dec 21, 2020 17:22:42 GMT
According to the press,for the new offer, we get about a third less per Club after 2021
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