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Post by dixon13 on Apr 6, 2024 13:35:23 GMT
This is a weird team this year. They defensively look better than last year but are shipping more tries. They are more structured than last year but their structure is shipping tries. We are playing more maturely than last year but are making stupid calls at stupid times. I'm really not sure what to make of it all... I think you've highlighted why it's so disappointing this time round they do look to have more about them than last year and yet fail to live up to their potential. Russ I suppose 64 thousand dollar question is why some would say the coach others would say something different. A lot people would say the best coach we have had was Lance Todd but growing up down Regent Rd the late Billy Watkins had pub the Gloucester I remember one time asking him about the 30 ties side and him saying a lot of the moves were worked out by himself Jenkins Risman and Jackie Feetham and Todd was m ore of a manager. I no people will say are but it's a different game now
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 6, 2024 13:11:06 GMT
Perhaps someone else can actually answer this question: Has IMG increased our media presence and footprint at all? Please don't qote the TV deals that have all the hallmarks of no change about them! Russ on this subject I am as skeptical as you at at present that comes from in my opinion the big decision re the new TV deal,where it seems they were over ruled by you know who in that instance the piper didn't call the tune. If I am wrong I would like to be put right.
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 6, 2024 8:57:53 GMT
Amazingly having not lost as badly as Leeds were in the top 6 Leigh Hull Cas London are way behind and Watto still looking at our rear…so life not too bad , except for LHR…who seems intent on getting at Rowley via his mate PK…perhaps he might tell PK to generate some cash so we don’t lose about £1M last season. and have to get rid of top 3 players. Rowley is building a new team via a new spine; remember Marwan brought in Watto, Watto brought in Rowley, the Board brought in Marshall…I’ll stick with Rowley, with or without a top class reserve grade NRL prop forward. If Marshall had still been here , it’d have been in the Championship Nofo hopefully, when sorted will, on big dry grounds come good, but we’ll see…his pedigree cf reserve grade Oz props is not bad JJR heads gone what has Paul King got to do with last nights performance. We let them run from marker - King was the biggest culprit here. Brierley needs tackle practice he missed 3 one on one tackles. He was awful last night as our last line of defence. Cust, MacDonald and Brierley all missed tackles on Senior. As has been said by others Rowley's defensive system is not working, Cas are not a super quick team. We are that flat on the edge a team can easily pass over us as demonstrated v Leigh and last night at Cas. Rowley choose a third hooker on the bench, this offered us no value. Foster or Dixon last night would have made us better in the middle. Rowley needs to consider playing a 3rd forward, all the better teams do, surely we can learn from this. I just watched KR v London highlights, London are shocking. Rowley needs to sort out the edge defence big time but cannot be held responsible for mistackles that is on our players. So are we saying we are watching a team of robots programmed by Paul Rowley to go on a field and play,and last night he programmed them to play like they did,to miss tackle after tackle so when the program falls apart they haven't got the brains to sort it out if that's the case we are wasting our money going to watch, ordinary bread and butter rugby players should know how to tackle that's one of the main tenants of the game.
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 6, 2024 7:45:11 GMT
Anyway not getting into bickering there’s been enough of that with a certain person,think our first 8 matches show us where our problems lie and that’s defence only one game have we conceded less than 20 so that’s a big worry,I think last night certainly at 24-18 we had it won just think we don’t know how to stop teams when they get on a roll,ultimately defence wins you matches and the tries we conceded were so poor that we were always going to come unstuck,week off now hopefully dudson back and we can start having a bigger bench,personally I thought Dixon was ok against Wigan so suprised he hasn’t been used again he was 18th man last night Their should be no bickering, everyone is entitled to their opinion,we all watched last night some unluckily were there How many different opinions are their on what we witnessed everyone on this forum as favourites,it's human nature of all the different opinions we are probably all a little bit right,but we all think we are the only one right it's called debate,. but what we should all agree on was that,last night's performance was unacceptable from 1 17 their should be no debate about that. Also their has been a bit of banter re Leigh,I have a friend who moved from Salford to the Leigh area many years ago,but a season ticket holder at the Devils but if we are not playing and Leigh are at home he goes but the same person his a Salford fanatic just like me.
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 5, 2024 22:40:29 GMT
I’m not singling cross out just pointing out nofa today was victim of the same defensive system that caught cross out it’s clearly a plan. But we’ve been found out and teams are exploiting it massively. Side note king and Mellor were poor need more of the bench Agree Mr Millward and with Dixon on the effort. Some of our thick fans blame Norfa two games in. King cost us two tries first half turning his back, we got rolled at marker every other set. Cust, Nene, Brierley all missed tackles on Senior. I lay the blame on Rowley, **** edge defense system that gets done every game. Leigh was no different, In addition just two forwards on the bench is stupid. I am not leaving out the coaches in my observations far from it they should be walking home as well,but the coaches could not do any tackling sat on the gantry its a team game that's what we should be focusing on anyone who went tonight were let down by the lot of them. We lost nearly every individual battle that is why as a collective we lost. I know some will say well we will beat Warrington I will tell you I wouldn't put your money on it,I also hear some say we think we are better than we are,well those that do want to wake up and apologize.
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 5, 2024 21:54:54 GMT
Wasn’t just cross it was both edges and the middles I’m not singling cross out just pointing out nofa today was victim of the same defensive system that caught cross out it’s clearly a plan. But we’ve been found out and teams are exploiting it massively. Side note king and Mellor were poor need more of the bench I don't like scapegoating for me 1 to 17 were the trouble they should all be walking home. The pack his not good enough the pack is the heartbeat of any good team always as been always will be Lastly I will go as far as to say that is one of the most feeble performances I have seen in all my years watching
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 5, 2024 21:28:45 GMT
Firstly they wanted it more than we did,we deserved nothing we couldn't tackle a trifle,it was embarrassing to watch.
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 5, 2024 16:58:18 GMT
Nobody wants Salford to win more than me,but in the 72 years of following the team I have have left Wheldon Road disappointed when we have lost when i thought we would have won but been elated when we have won when I thought we would lose.I do think we should win tonight but it will not spoil the Black and Tan if we do not.
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 4, 2024 23:14:47 GMT
I have to say Wigan have done more to put ne off RL than any other side over the years there are a few reasons for this but mostly it's the number of one sided, big score games they inflict on their opponents. RL is TGG except when it's one way traffic RL could be ranked with any mediocre sports product. Still a nice gesture Russ.
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 3, 2024 12:58:51 GMT
Agree on Norfu I'd like to see him get minutes over Cross this week. Also where is Sidlow he was supposed to be fit by Round 6. If he's not in the 21 get him out on loan to get match fit. Dudson is also a miss if the pitch is heavy and its a forwards game. JJR / Salford 1963 can we ask Dave who's winning this one The team that scores most points.
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 3, 2024 12:56:08 GMT
Agree C, but I think one of the other issues is that our fb , great in attack, but wasn’t a natural fb, and doesn’t often follow the ball across..aka the sliding defence As you know if it isn’t instinct a moments hesitation and it’s gone But Leigh do have a lot of variations out wide and difficult to defend against; good in attack. Be interesting to see how Wigan defend against it Even with forwards missing I cannot see that Leigh team troubling Wigan the pies backline is much better. I am pleased Hanley has got a shot he has taken his chance, most of Leighs backline in 30 plus. I would have Hanley and Lam at Salford that's for sure.
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 3, 2024 10:22:06 GMT
Dixon, what I meant was that Leigh are a good team using the edges and hard to defend against; we did well against them, especially since our spine still developing…agree re Murphy JJR, Leigh have 3 fantastic players; Lam, Asiata and Ipape. The rest are ok, how many of their backline get in the Salford team? I know you admire Leigh and the Beaumont empire but them scoring was more about our utter crap defence than Leigh ripping us to bits. Cross is a serial offender for rushing in off the wing and Ryan was caught out twice against a team bar Hanley that lacked pace. The sooner we use a sliding defence the better rather than this stupid **** or bust rush defence, it means we gift teams points. I wish we had a Beaumont at our club.if their scoring was down to our bad defense then surely our scoring was down to their bad defence.
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 1, 2024 22:40:46 GMT
I think Mellor and Bourouh offer very different things and I won't be disappointed whoever starts, ecellent to be in that position. Cas and London are banana skins in waiting and just the sort of occasions that have let us down in the past so often, Agree 100% A big banana 🍌 skin so big it could be a plantain skin. The first half against Leeds Rhinos They looked more like a Top 4 team than the team at the bottom of the table with zero wons. I thought they did well for 60 minutes v Leeds never an easy place to win at Wheldon Road.
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Post by dixon13 on Apr 1, 2024 11:03:40 GMT
Don’t take away from Leigh tho, some great plays out wide by them…they’ll be a handful, when they get their big men back But great display by us…especially since we’ve got a new spine, which when it gels we’ll get better JJR if we had won by 50 points some would not have been satisfied I thought Leigh played well, we beat them As Alex Murphy always said the winners can laugh the losers can do what they want.
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Post by dixon13 on Mar 31, 2024 14:34:57 GMT
The price of gold and quality cider. Deviltalk is truly a hotbed of intellectual discussion!🧠😁 Slim never mind the cider,the next time you order make it Black and Tan Guinness in first followed by the bitter.
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