|
|
Post by russ on Jun 2, 2022 14:46:10 GMT
Dixon as a Salford rate payer I probably expected the Council to support the bid vocally. And I'd want them to go all out in favour of SRD "Our City" and not just a Sports club with no roots and no connections. |
|
|
|
Stadium
Jun 2, 2022 16:12:58 GMT
via mobile
Post by dixon13 on Jun 2, 2022 16:12:58 GMT
Like I said, it's getting silly.
|
|
|
|
Post by Gill on Jun 4, 2022 6:38:06 GMT
The offer from Sale is around 15 million in instalments. From this Salford Council we’re going to pay 4 million to upgrade Moor Lane and pay Neville 4 million to compensate him for his improvements. Enter the Gerrard. Cash. Peel still a problem though. Politics. Contact your local councillor. Get pushing and lobbying. Show the Council we care.
|
|
|
|
Post by JJR on Jun 4, 2022 6:59:09 GMT
No wonder Neville wants to move. If he joined in with us he wouldn’t get his £4m. And we’d be stuck at ML
Amazing, as a rate payer who agreed to that deal?
|
|
|
|
Post by JJR on Jun 4, 2022 8:31:30 GMT
We really need to get behind Seb now
|
|
|
|
Stadium
Jun 4, 2022 14:48:20 GMT
via mobile
Post by dixon13 on Jun 4, 2022 14:48:20 GMT
No wonder Neville wants to move. If he joined in with us he wouldn’t get his £4m. And we’d be stuck at ML Amazing, as a rate payer who agreed to that deal? What ever will be, will be. |
|
|
|
Post by JJR on Jun 10, 2022 6:20:38 GMT
I assume SG will be doing his Due Diligence on the Stadium.
Not much word from the Council or the Club, I wonder if Sky will update us tonight?
|
|
|
|
Post by JJR on Jun 10, 2022 21:51:42 GMT
It said on R Manchester a bid has been presented by SG but that there were those at Salford (the Board?.) that favour Moor Lane. Not heard them actually enthuse about SGs bid yet
Why would anybody favour the dump of Moor Lane, potentially by far the worst ground in SL, to staying and owning the AJ? Oh sorrry the poll, we all want to go there😩
. Salford FC with a crowd highly subsidised get a few thousand don’t want to stay and we want it…come on let’s have some ambition
|
|
|
|
Stadium
Jun 10, 2022 23:18:53 GMT
via mobile
Post by ayresrock on Jun 10, 2022 23:18:53 GMT
Perhaps the Gerrard bid isn't actually as good as people are hoping it is and doesn't have Salford's best interest at heart.
Just a thought
|
|
|
|
Post by JJR on Jun 11, 2022 6:34:25 GMT
Always a possibility AR but I doubt it.
The joke poll about Moor Lane, which wasn’t even scripted properly, tried to id3ntify the fans wanted ML. They seem hell bent on it with. £4m hand out from the Council. At least let’s get behind SG fully and give it a good go.
Sorry AR we’ve raised no significant money since Marwan left, we’ve had a bit of good fortune with Watto and Blease doing their magic, Watto left because he was ambitious, we escaped last year now Rowleyball doing his magic and we can’t bring anymore players to support the injury list. Performances like last night and last week, as Carnster identified, have been going on for ever. An£ each year our best players are sold to survive or won’t renew contracts.
We are a just survival Club AR and a feeding ground for the bigger more ambitious clubs and people seem happy with it. Moor Lane fits that profile.
|
|
|
|
Post by JJR on Jun 11, 2022 6:45:36 GMT
Interestingly AR I don’t know whether the consequences of Sale getting the AJ have been thought through.
I heard a discussion which identified that as the premier stadium for RU in the North West that Sale and the RzU would make it a hotbed for local rugby talent. So rather than our schools and amateurs playing RL the RU would, as it’s done in other areas promote RU massively to youngsters and we’d lose our local talent pool. Interesting but probably true as the RU has the funds to do it
So Salford a RU City
|
|
|
|
Stadium
Jun 11, 2022 8:50:20 GMT
via mobile
Post by ayresrock on Jun 11, 2022 8:50:20 GMT
Always a possibility AR but I doubt it. The joke poll about Moor Lane, which wasn’t even scripted properly, tried to id3ntify the fans wanted ML. They seem hell bent on it with. £4m hand out from the Council. At least let’s get behind SG fully and give it a good go. Sorry AR we’ve raised no significant money since Marwan left, we’ve had a bit of good fortune with Watto and Blease doing their magic, Watto left because he was ambitious, we escaped last year now Rowleyball doing his magic and we can’t bring anymore players to support the injury list. Performances like last night and last week, as Carnster identified, have been going on for ever. An£ each year our best players are sold to survive or won’t renew contracts. We are a just survival Club AR and a feeding ground for the bigger more ambitious clubs and people seem happy with it. Moor Lane fits that profile. You say let's get behind the Gerrard bid and give it a good go but based on what exactly? Wasn't the wording in the press release that Gerrard wants to buy the stadium and invest in Salford? To me that could mean anything i.e. he gets the stadium but will invest by being the main kit sponsor for 5 years. These finer details are not in the public domain and maybe this is why the board are reluctant because they actually aren't in the best interest of Salford Rugby? Is the handout factual? Where has it been said the current board will be given £4 million personally? As we have established in the other thread, no one gets in to rugby league to make money so are you suggesting that this is what King and Trainor are looking to do/achieve? I 100% agree we are a survival club but that won't change anytime soon under any remit. The koukash days should show that even with a benefactor, the club never really shed that tag and this where I go back to what I said in the other thread. In those 5/6 years, the club went backwards by scraping the academy. The engagement with the local community was low, links to local amateur clubs remained around the same they always been at and the game was never grown or investment put in the right places. I'll come back to this in the next post and I'm not looking to drag this in to a back and forth on Marwan. I respect your position on him and his time and I've also stated I too also appreciated what he did for the club. I don't think anyone is happy about Moor Lane, or if there are people, then it's a minority. I think most are being realistic. The club makes no money presently. They get the RFL handout and sponsorship but apart from that, what? Few % on merchandise sales. There really are little revenue streams open to a professional club as I see it anyway unless you own your own stadium or have a very good lease agreement in place. We don't have that good lease agreement that we get money from match day and, this is me speculating, perhaps the Gerrard deal again offers us nothing other than paying a peppercorn rent on top of that shirt sponsorship theory I mention above. Have you considered that? So perhaps the view on the board currently is that rather than keep the club in survival mode by jumping from one agreement with a landlord that has lost millions and supported us for as long as it can with public money to another where we might not be as fortunate and have our rent increased significantly in future years they are actually viewing Moor Lane as an opportunity to give the club its own ground where it will then be in a position to generate match day revenue through hospitality and the like. Sure it's tinpot but it would be our tinpot. Surely then, this is the current board having come up with a way to significantly increase monies coming in is it not and while the upcoming years may be barron, the club at least stands a fighting chance to grow whereas, remaining tenants, we never will and will just continue to die slowly |
|
|
|
Stadium
Jun 11, 2022 8:51:00 GMT
via mobile
Post by ayresrock on Jun 11, 2022 8:51:00 GMT
Interestingly AR I don’t know whether the consequences of Sale getting the AJ have been thought through. I heard a discussion which identified that as the premier stadium for RU in the North West that Sale and the RzU would make it a hotbed for local rugby talent. So rather than our schools and amateurs playing RL the RU would, as it’s done in other areas promote RU massively to youngsters and we’d lose our local talent pool. Interesting but probably true as the RU has the funds to do it So Salford a RU City I don't think it's much of a secret that Sale and the RFU are putting a lot of investment in growing the game in the region. For clarity, I don't like Rugby Union. Don't follow it in any way. Got free tickets once to go to a game with my kid and was bored to tears and have simply never got the appeal of the sport I veiw Sale as leechers and certainly have no love for them and honestly hope they fail BUT they have a good business model and do exactly what should have been done by Salford 5, 8, 10, 15 years ago in that they are in schools, in local clubs and they are supporting and promoting their product and that is why it is working in our city. There was minimal input this area from Salford Rugby and this is perhaps what irk's me about the Marwan era as the opportunity was totally missed. I know the foundation did the best they could and they were a good set of individual people who worked hard back then in those times. I acknowledge that in some areas engagement improved and that they did the best they could on the budget they had but why wasn't more investment thrown at this area of the business? You only have to look as closely as Warrington to see what a good community department can do given the resources. I'd say that since the current board came about, that engagement has been much better but is still miles behind Sale unfortunately and this is where the battle is being lost because they have that business model right and well backed by club and governing body. We simply are unable to compete and yes, the sad reality is, Salford will be a RU city in the future. |
|
|
|
Post by dixon13 on Jun 11, 2022 13:07:24 GMT
Interestingly AR I don’t know whether the consequences of Sale getting the AJ have been thought through. I heard a discussion which identified that as the premier stadium for RU in the North West that Sale and the RzU would make it a hotbed for local rugby talent. So rather than our schools and amateurs playing RL the RU would, as it’s done in other areas promote RU massively to youngsters and we’d lose our local talent pool. Interesting but probably true as the RU has the funds to do it So Salford a RU City Sale had an idea ages ago,to promote their selves as a North West team with people coming from all over,it didn't materialise then it will not now they are still Sale playing in Salford.Their migh be some money for the premiership from the RFU but below that they get nowt.Apart from that first mention on the Friday night their as been nothing about any bid.As for Moor Lane I don't get it the capacity is 5.000 that will be reduced to accommodate the changes the RFL want so if say 7.000 rock up we can't accommodate them,how can we grow their is know scope, unless I am missing something We have to somehow stay at the AJB. I can't see us surviveing at Moor Lane let alone growing It's not criticism of the present board but I can't understand their thinking that we can |
|
|
|
Post by chief on Jun 11, 2022 15:51:59 GMT
I see comments about having our own ground if we move to Moor Lane.
Will we own it? If so, how? Gifted to us by the council? If bought, where is the money coming from?
Or, will we be sole tenants with possibility of income from merchandising food and drink outlets?
If the latter, we will be at the mercy of a landlord when tenancy comes for renegotiation.
I personally think a move there will be the beginning of the end of the club as a full time professional outfit.
Before anyone asks, I don’t have any solution myself. It is just the situation as I see it and I wish those in charge all the luck in the world in keeping us going.
|
|
