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Post by JJR on Dec 12, 2022 9:02:29 GMT
The benefit so far is that I think we would have been at ML next season had Gerrard not stepped in
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Post by mauricethered on Dec 12, 2022 9:36:32 GMT
The benefit so far is that I think we would have been at ML next season had Gerrard not stepped in 100% Agree Seb's involvement has stopped the inevitable happening. |
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Post by mauricethered on Dec 12, 2022 9:39:43 GMT
I may be reading to much into this but there have been a few things recently which have made me curious. Firstly, the club have made a habit of late of calling the AJ Bell, the Salford Stadium and posted on social media about the Anniversary of the stadium being handed over to them. The three year deals being handed out for Lafai and Brierley, whilst giving the club protection in the transfer market, may also indicate a greater confidence in the overall status of the club going forward. Then, the sponsorship deal with Muse, who have worked with the Council too, made me think is this a part of a wider plan for development around the stadium. As I say, I may be reading more into this than there is but could they be indications that the club are increasingly confident of remaining at the "Salford Stadium" on a longer if not full time basis.? This is a glass half full view lets hope this happens - some great points are made. Sale/FC are really quiet on the ground currently, maybe it is the council that cannot agree a way forward with the stadium management company. To grow we need a decent stadium, that is must, Moor Lane is not that. Be interesting over the next couple of months on the stadium situation, doubt anything will be announced until the new year now, I know I am willing Gerrard's bid to go through that's for sure. Not wanting to call Stadge the Oracle, I have just noticed my Red Devils weekly lottery is now called 'Salford Community Fundraising Draw', seems the emphasis here is with the community/Salford as per the observations made. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2022 11:02:33 GMT
This is a glass half full view lets hope this happens - some great points are made. Sale/FC are really quiet on the ground currently, maybe it is the council that cannot agree a way forward with the stadium management company. To grow we need a decent stadium, that is must, Moor Lane is not that. Be interesting over the next couple of months on the stadium situation, doubt anything will be announced until the new year now, I know I am willing Gerrard's bid to go through that's for sure. Not wanting to call Stadge the Oracle, I have just noticed my Red Devils weekly lottery is now called 'Salford Community Fundraising Draw', seems the emphasis here is with the community/Salford as per the observations made. I generally agree with JJRs difficulties with the club referring to itself as a Community Club. If all the clues regarding possible good news about staying at The Salford Community Stadium prove to be positive,then surely us the fans should be brought onboard sooner rather than later. |
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Post by returningred on Dec 12, 2022 13:47:26 GMT
Not wanting to call Stadge the Oracle, I have just noticed my Red Devils weekly lottery is now called 'Salford Community Fundraising Draw', seems the emphasis here is with the community/Salford as per the observations made. I generally agree with JJRs difficulties with the club referring to itself as a Community Club. If all the clues regarding possible good news about staying at The Salford Community Stadium prove to be positive,then surely us the fans should be brought onboard sooner rather than later. Until there is anything concrete to report not sure what people expect the club to communicate. We know that Seb Gerrard has put in a bid for the stadium and so have Sale/ Salford FC. This is now with the council / Peel to decide who they want to run with. It’s literally as simple as that! Hopefully Seb gets the nod, I for one hope he does then we can move away from fans wanting to know the ins and outs of the workings of the club! |
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Post by mauricethered on Dec 12, 2022 15:21:59 GMT
I generally agree with JJRs difficulties with the club referring to itself as a Community Club. If all the clues regarding possible good news about staying at The Salford Community Stadium prove to be positive,then surely us the fans should be brought onboard sooner rather than later. Until there is anything concrete to report not sure what people expect the club to communicate. We know that Seb Gerrard has put in a bid for the stadium and so have Sale/ Salford FC. This is now with the council / Peel to decide who they want to run with. It’s literally as simple as that! Hopefully Seb gets the nod, I for one hope he does then we can move away from fans wanting to know the ins and outs of the workings of the club! Agree, I guess that it is the not knowing and this being out of the clubs control is why fans ask questions. The one thing they can control is naming conventions and the deliberate use of 'Community Stadium' must be for a reason. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2022 15:26:27 GMT
I generally agree with JJRs difficulties with the club referring to itself as a Community Club. If all the clues regarding possible good news about staying at The Salford Community Stadium prove to be positive,then surely us the fans should be brought onboard sooner rather than later. Until there is anything concrete to report not sure what people expect the club to communicate. We know that Seb Gerrard has put in a bid for the stadium and so have Sale/ Salford FC. This is now with the council / Peel to decide who they want to run with. It’s literally as simple as that! Hopefully Seb gets the nod, I for one hope he does then we can move away from fans wanting to know the ins and outs of the workings of the club! When us the fans are continually being asked to contribute financially,surely we are entitled to know what’s happening with the state of the club. That is not wanting to know the ins and outs of the workings of the club. Isn’t that what a Community Club is? Merely asking for money or contributions isn’t just what a Community Club is. |
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Post by russ on Dec 12, 2022 15:43:56 GMT
Although it would be good to know if the news is good, and as fans we are right to ask and have every right to know, linking that to idea of a community club is s bit silly. It's quite clear that a community club can mean tons of different things from being owned by a few fans to being run by a community group.
SRD as an organisastion does seem to work in the nothing to report until it's done and dusted which can amake it frustrating.
For us it's straight forward 150 years of carrying the town's name, and being part of the culture and history of the city or some nomadic Johnny come lately fly by night. For the council it may all just be a matter of cash.
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Post by returningred on Dec 12, 2022 15:46:03 GMT
Until there is anything concrete to report not sure what people expect the club to communicate. We know that Seb Gerrard has put in a bid for the stadium and so have Sale/ Salford FC. This is now with the council / Peel to decide who they want to run with. It’s literally as simple as that! Hopefully Seb gets the nod, I for one hope he does then we can move away from fans wanting to know the ins and outs of the workings of the club! When us the fans are continually being asked to contribute financially,surely we are entitled to know what’s happening with the state of the club. That is not wanting to know the ins and outs of the workings of the club. Isn’t that what a Community Club is? Merely asking for money or contributions isn’t just what a Community Club is. Most know the state of the club, players are signed for this season and quite a few beyond, we know that we are playing out of Barton next season and a prospective new investor has a bid in to take over the stadium. People say the club are constantly asking for contributions yet all I can see is the club selling season tickets, and running a lottery. How are we as fans therefore constantly being asked to contribute. Those things would be running whether we were a community club or not. |
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Post by russ on Dec 12, 2022 17:58:03 GMT
When us the fans are continually being asked to contribute financially,surely we are entitled to know what’s happening with the state of the club. That is not wanting to know the ins and outs of the workings of the club. Isn’t that what a Community Club is? Merely asking for money or contributions isn’t just what a Community Club is. How are we as fans therefore constantly being asked to contribute? Those things would be running whether we were a community club or not. Well you're right about whether it was a community club or not RR but as fans it's our disposable income that makes us attractive. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2022 18:51:56 GMT
How are we as fans therefore constantly being asked to contribute? Those things would be running whether we were a community club or not. Well you're right about whether it was a community club or not RR but as fans it's our disposable income that makes us attractive. We are being asked to contribute to the stability and financial well being of our club. I.e.buy a season ticket, pay for a monthly raffle ticket, pay an amount to the club in order to possibly fund a new signing ( I forget the name of the scheme ). None of this should be taken for granted and in these difficult times any outlay of cash is particularly difficult for quite a lot of us. The club nor indeed anybody associated with the club should take any contributions for granted.The loyalty of fans should not be taken for granted at any time. |
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Post by returningred on Dec 12, 2022 19:01:34 GMT
How are we as fans therefore constantly being asked to contribute? Those things would be running whether we were a community club or not. Well you're right about whether it was a community club or not RR but as fans it's our disposable income that makes us attractive. We are a community club insofar ad we don’t have a rich owner and all the money comes from within. Whether that he ST sales or sponsorships from businesses. Those running the club on a day to day basis all invest whether that is he though guarantees, business expertise or other things. Just because people buy ST doesn’t give a a as fans the right to know everything like whether the ground is being sold to Seb or Sale. |
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Post by returningred on Dec 12, 2022 19:05:21 GMT
Well you're right about whether it was a community club or not RR but as fans it's our disposable income that makes us attractive. We are being asked to contribute to the stability and financial well being of our club. I.e.buy a season ticket, pay for a monthly raffle ticket, pay an amount to the club in order to possibly fund a new signing ( I forget the name of the scheme ). None of this should be taken for granted and in these difficult times any outlay of cash is particularly difficult for quite a lot of us. The club nor indeed anybody associated with the club should take any contributions for granted.The loyalty of fans should not be taken for granted at any time. Nobody has questioned the loyalty or taken it for granted. You buy a ST you get in return admission to the games, you buy a lottery ticket you enter a competition to win a prize. Squad builder yes but that was in 2018 with. Membership scheme that followed both of which was optional and provided those who were members additional benefits. People are constantly saying they should be kept fully aware of what is happening with the stadium! Let’s be honest the club who we all seem to want to tell us has nothing to do with the acquisition of the stadium it is either being carried out by Sale / Salford city or a private individual who has stated he wants to keep the club at the ground and could possibly invest in the club. That is all. |
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Post by russ on Dec 12, 2022 19:31:37 GMT
Well you're right about whether it was a community club or not RR but as fans it's our disposable income that makes us attractive. Just because people buy ST doesn’t give a a as fans the right to know everything like whether the ground is being sold to Seb or Sale. RR I have to disagree with you here, the right to know is crucial to being a fan. It'd be like saying turn up because we've signed some new players without saying who they are!
Anything that affects the club has to be part and parcel of the club/fan relationship.
if not then no event or news matters and that simply isn't true otherwise we wouldn't spend on social media or RL forums and websites. Though admitedly SARL's Quote the Agent and Total's echo chamber don't exactly help but at least they're trying.
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Post by returningred on Dec 12, 2022 20:47:24 GMT
Just because people buy ST doesn’t give a a as fans the right to know everything like whether the ground is being sold to Seb or Sale. RR I have to disagree with you here, the right to know is crucial to being a fan. It'd be like saying turn up because we've signed some new players without saying who they are!
Anything that affects the club has to be part and parcel of the club/fan relationship.
if not then no event or news matters and that simply isn't true otherwise we wouldn't spend on social media or RL forums and websites. Though admitedly SARL's Quote the Agent and Total's echo chamber don't exactly help but at least they're trying.
Disagree completely, how can the club say anything if there is nothing to say, club doesn’t comment on rumours of who we are signing they announce them when it’s a done deal! Where is the difference? Does the club say we have made a contract offer to such and such a player which is essentially what is happening here, someone has made an offer on the stadium for the benefit of the club! I’m 100% certain that once any deal is done the club will let everyone know! It’s hardly rocket science is it! |
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