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Post by prestwichred on Jul 22, 2021 21:27:00 GMT
If it’s cancelled totally or moved to next year what assurances are there that OZ and NZ will come over then ?
Even if they signed an agreement with penalty clauses imposed they would probably ignore it.
It’s all about their players having to go into Covid Quarantine for 2 weeks and then being available for only 2 weeks before the start of the season.
Why can’t they move the start of their season ?
They don’t care about International RL and only are interested in the NRL and State of Origin.
I have bought tickets and was looking forward to this as were probably a lot of others.
Selfish self centred to$$ers
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Post by redunderthebed on Jul 23, 2021 10:10:42 GMT
The RL Players Association says the players want to play and that the players weren’t consulted by the Aus or NZ authorities
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Post by bonitared on Jul 23, 2021 10:50:57 GMT
Mandleson is another one?  He’d never have made it in the second row. One of those wingers we’ve all seen who run towards their own posts when they see a tackle coming.Thatd be his position. Left wing naturally |
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Post by russ on Jul 23, 2021 11:46:05 GMT
Mandleson is another one? He’d never have made it in the second row. One of those wingers we’ve all seen who run towards their own posts when they see a tackle coming.Thatd be his position. Left right wing naturally a definite Paul Murphy look a like. Just adjusting your sets everyone otherwise Mandleson would take you to the Twilight Zone.
It has been an interesting 24 hours for RL everyone seems to think the players in Oz will flex their unions muscle to reverse this decision but I've no heard anyone speak up yet.
It is also scurilous (is that how you spell it?) that the English players and South Pacific players may also be prevented from playing.
I have said that if all this happens we need to call it a day on the international programme and fixtures and a look at the history of the RLWC will tell you this right up to the present.
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Post by bonitared on Jul 23, 2021 12:15:39 GMT
My view throughout the pandemic has been,with exceptions such as vaccination,people should be allowed to make their own decisions,albeit with safeguards built in.
If it turns out the our former antipodean colonies don’t want to come,I really don’t have a problem with it,provided it’s the true reason.
We will always be second best to the West Coast of Australia but,if it turns out this is really about a lack of respect for the international game,then we get rid
Apologies if this has been covered earlier,I’ve not read the whole thread
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Post by JJR on Jul 23, 2021 12:52:54 GMT
Basically if Oz and NZ don’t want to play here because our rugby isn’t up to it, then there’s an answer for the RFL; stop pandering to the major clubs, develop the sport and get better so that they’ll have to visit.
Let’s face it, we have a great game and a few self centred clubs do everything in their power to control it in order that they get the players, the crowds and the trophies on their terms and at their convenience.
I don’t blame the Oz and NZ authorities for not wanting to come to risk and put too much pressure on their high value players. If that’s the reason. Although looking at the worsening situation in this country, 1 in 79 have it, and in the N W, very much higher, and now because of it, the game schedule in a shambolic state. And forecast to be getting much worse next month; the Herd Infecting programme. And let’s face it to come here and a couple of teams get it, then self isolate, end of tournament.
It’s our problem that the game in this country isn’t up to it, not theirs. So we have to sort that, then others will want to visit.
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Post by dixon13 on Jul 23, 2021 13:03:48 GMT
The way I understand it is this.When they go back to Australia the isolation period is strict,then they have to have 8 weeks off,
Let's be fair our rules are being altered every 2 minutes,to be fair our rules are a farce.They have been altered for a few because we are having shortages,so what start to ration things it's happened before.I don't know what the answer is,but if that's their decision, I respect it, like I would hope they would respect ours.
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Post by osrd on Jul 23, 2021 15:24:47 GMT
Well the Players Union in Australia,the RLPA and its spokesperson, Clint Newton aren’t happy with what has gone on, see the BBC RL site for details.
The way that the Australian and New Zealand RL authorities have handled the situation is appalling, four minutes notice for the World Cup organisers is a disgraceful way to have acted in my opinion.
From what I have read in the media, if the NRL put back their season start by two weeks the situation could have been sorted out.
Its a pity that the greatest game has some of the worst administrators around.
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Post by bonitared on Jul 23, 2021 15:30:39 GMT
It was always the case,all the way back to Bill Fallowfield and now with the Yorkshire mafiosa
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Post by russ on Jul 24, 2021 8:40:33 GMT
The idea that admistrators don't want their players to come because they have something more important than a WORLD CUP to consider.
Our friends in the game need to stay at home while we put a new name on the Trophy.
If they then stop English players and Pacific nations players attending then, and I never in a thousand years thought I'd say this, I agree with gary Schoefield fine'em and ban from the next one. It sounds and reads weird even now.
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Post by Carnster on Jul 24, 2021 11:29:28 GMT
A lot of NRL players are suggesting Indigenous All stars and Maori All stars take their place.
It seems that the Aus & NZ management have really misjudged the mood from their players.
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Post by giasf on Jul 24, 2021 18:21:54 GMT
I must admit after a few days of reflection on this I've come to realise that what an effect this whole debacle has had on my feelings about the sport. I've long accepted that Rugby League is an amateur sport masquerading as a professional one, but I have never felt embarrassed to be a fan of the sport which is frankly how I feel right now. Finding it very hard to get excited about the sport currently, be it the stagnation of the sport in the UK at the elite level, the continually abysmal refereeing that you see -- it honestly wasn't this bad 20 years ago -- or the selfishness of the NRL (and the ongoing nonsense around contact to the head). I hope that they can get the World Cup on and that it might get me excited about what the sport can offer again, but right now I find myself looking forward to the NFL season far than SL or the NRL, and I only started watching the NFL properly last year. Hard to see the future of the sport.
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Post by russ on Jul 26, 2021 13:45:56 GMT
It's a shame when you lose your passion for anything and I suspect people getting out of the habit will add to RL's problems.
The painting of RL as completely dire may help but that doesn't mean it's an accurate picture more an expression of how you feel at present, to be honest.
We'll be lucky to have a sport when the Covid smoke finally clears but any time you're unhappy is probably the right time to move on.
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Post by russ on Jul 26, 2021 14:54:04 GMT
"Rugby Football League chairman Simon Johnson subsequently launched a scathing attack on the Kangaroos and Kiwis, describing their decision as “selfish, parochial and cowardly” and admitting the World Cup could now be scrapped altogether." RLWC + International RL gone but not forgotten.
My WatchNRL subscription was up for renewal so I cancelled it because of this and said so.
I think cutiing all ties with the NRL is probably for the best now to be honest.
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Post by JJR on Jul 26, 2021 15:23:22 GMT
I heard one of the issues is that Pacific Islanders and others are not getting vaccinated….possibly for religious reasons. So this problem is possibly bigger and different than we think.
Looking at how COVID is running rampant through SL teams, just be sensible and stop hanging onto something which has a v slim chance of being completed, even if it’s started. Reality v hope.
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