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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2020 15:57:56 GMT
In my opinion, he was a good player and fit into the system at the time but is possibly on the slide and I would rather look elsewhere.
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Post by buxtonred60 on May 15, 2020 16:17:10 GMT
I would look down under myself, for a young player that is close to getting into a Nrl team, but cant because of long term fullbacks in front of him, Even if the club wants him back in say 3 yrs, there is plenty of young talent down under that WATTO could blend into the team. That's what I said with this lad looking good. www.youtube.com/watch?v=urWUNwqpZhQI have a few contacts down under i will see what i can find out about him, etc etc how are we for qouta spots for next season??? I reckon we could lose Joey so that will be one that i know off. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2020 16:55:51 GMT
I would look down under myself, for a young player that is close to getting into a Nrl team, but cant because of long term fullbacks in front of him, Even if the club wants him back in say 3 yrs, there is plenty of young talent down under that WATTO could blend into the team. That's what I said with this lad looking good. www.youtube.com/watch?v=urWUNwqpZhQI have a few contacts down under i will see what i can find out about him, etc etc how are we for qouta spots for next season??? I reckon we could lose Joey so that will be one that i know off. If only another informed forumista had suggested this very chap  .
I do think these people who use shite music like this in a YouTube show reel should be sterilised to prevent them breeding though.
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Post by prestwichred on May 16, 2020 0:24:44 GMT
What is this fixation Salford fans have with GOB ? He kicked the drop goal that saved us yes but do you not remember how bad he actually was? You’re in a minority. O’Brien was a very good full back and the debate was whether he or Evalds should start at FB. I think,on balance,it’d be a mistake to have him back not because he isn’t still a good player but because time moves on and there’s an opportunity for change ie don’t go back ! The fixation is very well earned. Without that drop goal we wouldn’t have been at OT last year,because that team wouldn’t have been assembled or retained. Minority I don’t think so. He is a very average player with one set play. Sussed out and sold on. |
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Post by SalfordSlim on May 16, 2020 6:56:52 GMT
Not gonna get into the GOB debate as it's been done to death on here. All I'll say is he played a huge part in arguably the single greatest 3 minutes in RL history so he'll always be remembered fondly. I'm not sure bringing him back would be the best option though.
So we either go down the young Aussie/Kiwi/South Sea Islander route or we raid the lower leagues or look within the club to fill the massive void.
Personally I'd leave Sarge in the centres as he's been immense so far and I believe one of the reasons he left Wigan is because he wanted to play in what he believes is his best position at centre.
What about Chamberlain? Assume he must be somewhere near full fitness now and he's got pace. With Sio and Williams cemented as first-choice wingers he'll be struggling for game time out wide. Assuming this season is a right-off, it gives Watto time to work with him.
As others have mentioned, Ashall-Bott looked really dangerous when he played at the AJ Bell for Widnes before he suffered that long-term injury in the game against us. Young, pace to burn, a decent step and I assume he's bulked up a bit since then as he did look s little bit lightweight.
Other than that, I've not really seen much Championship/L1 Rugby so couldn't really comment on any "rough diamonds".
Either way, Watto has his work cut out. To replace one of the top 3 SL FB's within our wage structure is gonna be a challenge but if anyone can do it Watto/Blease can.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 8:31:47 GMT
On Sarge - I think a centre would be mad to turn down the chance to play at the more influential position of fullback. It’s also got more earning potential if you are the cynical type. As far as I know Sarge was playing centre for Wigan and by all accounts enjoyed his previous stint at fullback so not sure position was a factor in his move. He has no creativity though so it would mean a big change in tactics.
On quota spots that someone mentioned I think we’d have room as at least one (Pauli) is on a one year deal. Ikahihifo is only on loan as well although you’d hope we could keep him.
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Post by Carnster on May 16, 2020 8:37:52 GMT
On Sarge - I think a centre would be mad to turn down the chance to play at the more influential position of fullback. It’s also got more earning potential if you are the cynical type. As far as I know Sarge was playing centre for Wigan and by all accounts enjoyed his previous stint at fullback so not sure position was a factor in his move. He has no creativity though so it would mean a big change in tactics. On quota spots that someone mentioned I think we’d have room as at least one (Pauli) is on a one year deal. Ikahihifo is only on loan as well although you’d hope we could keep him. I like the idea of Sarge at FB. You're right when you talk about him not really having the nuance for the position, but he does give you line busts, speed, aggression, and 100% every game. Not too shabby for a replacement, as we're not going to get the sublime support play that Evalds brings. I think Evalds is probably the best support player in SL. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 9:32:43 GMT
On Sarge - I think a centre would be mad to turn down the chance to play at the more influential position of fullback. It’s also got more earning potential if you are the cynical type. As far as I know Sarge was playing centre for Wigan and by all accounts enjoyed his previous stint at fullback so not sure position was a factor in his move. He has no creativity though so it would mean a big change in tactics. On quota spots that someone mentioned I think we’d have room as at least one (Pauli) is on a one year deal. Ikahihifo is only on loan as well although you’d hope we could keep him. I like the idea of Sarge at FB. You're right when you talk about him not really having the nuance for the position, but he does give you line busts, speed, aggression, and 100% every game. Not too shabby for a replacement, as we're not going to get the sublime support play that Evalds brings. I think Evalds is probably the best support player in SL. Wigan fans say his best spell there was while he was at fullback. I’m not against the idea but we’d need to get in some creativity elsewhere- scrum half probably. We have probably got half a season with no relegation to try someone out if that’s what Watson wants to do as well. We have a few who could fit the bill and if they don’t work we could bring someone in. |
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Post by buxtonred60 on May 16, 2020 18:25:03 GMT
I think putting Sarge at fullback , would only be a stop gap, i would rather have us sign a young fullback , we can mould into the postion like we did with Nial, and offer 3 maybe 4 yrs contract with more clasuses in it so nobody can pinch him.
young overseas for me. it is just finding the right one down under.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 19:27:34 GMT
I said a few years ago we should have sounded Dobson out about being a talent spotter for us, he thought highly of the place and was well respected all round within the sport.
I'd also get Blease to ask Lussick and Hastings for any recommendations, can you imagine the glowing reference Hastings in particular would give the club, the fans and the area.
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Post by JJR on May 16, 2020 21:01:02 GMT
Didn't Blease go on a scouting mission before the start of the season?
Chamberlain seems ok to me. Can kick can tackle has speed.
If no relegation this year get him there now then we can see. Let Evalds and Dudson sit it out. We need to get ready for next year.
Could get another season out of Brown now he's not played much this, as a part player.
Getting fed up with all the negative stuff let's look forward. Evalds has gone, good luck, good bye.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 21:19:51 GMT
I get the sentiment about sitting Dudson and Evalds out but that's a lot of money to be shelling out for them to be inactive, personally I'd flog them to death on the pitch, Dudson should be made to play more minutes and Evalds just used as per, it's no skin of the Salford nose if Dudson is shattered come seasons end.
As for Brown I can see your point but he needs to convince me as so far he's been spectacularly beige and his brain fart is still inexcusable.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 22:37:47 GMT
It’s about ‘bums on seats’ (even though there won’t be much of that) and putting the best team out as well. Dropping some of the best players and writing off the season might have an impact on season ticket uptake for next year for example. Just playing devil’s advocate as I’d favour an experiment or two.
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Post by Carnster on May 17, 2020 16:49:22 GMT
As for Brown I can see your point but he needs to convince me as so far he's been spectacularly beige. The best description of Brown I've read. Outstanding. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2020 17:10:27 GMT
As for Brown I can see your point but he needs to convince me as so far he's been spectacularly beige. The best description of Brown I've read. Outstanding. I feel validated |
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